You’re not listening to me, which coming from a person on the internet is rather on brand. I’m not dismissing anyone. I’m simply comparing the volumes of said trials experienced by different types of people. But it seems like we both agree that SEXUAL ABUSE, whether coming from either side, is WRONG and should be taken into CONSIDERATION from either GENDER. I don’t know when it’s been agreed upon that saying that women have faced more trials when it comes to sexism than men is “woke” and “idiotic”, so I’m far more comfortable assuming that you don’t know what those words mean and are just throwing them out to try to come out as being “right”. Have you ever paid attention in history class?
Same thing with your usage of the word “evil”.
You haven’t, again, actually argued against my point that I’m trying to make, which is that living as a woman is not easier than living as a man. I wasn’t offended when I saw the post: I’m pretty sure that given the nature of this site, that this is dark humor and OP doesn’t actually share the values he presents through this meme, and besides, if he does, I don’t really care. I commented because of the amount of people in the comments taking this seemingly seriously. This simply isn’t true.
Talking about “being offended”, you’re the one who is definitely offended. I’m not attacking you, bub, I’m making a point. You’re the one who’s throwing out all the insults that you know because you can’t handle criticism. I’m even trying to de-escalate, explain, and you’re not taking it.
I promise that if you’d become more flexible with people’s opinions and got out of your information echo chamber then you’d feel a lot less angry with other people.
Or you won’t understand what I said. Which in that case I’ll summarize: LISTEN TO OTHERS, DON’T USE BUZZWORDS, CHILL OUT.
Let me clarify.
The fact that men don’t get help is usually because of the stigma that men are tough and supposed to handle their feelings on their own, which is an image that men have imposed on themselves just to dominate, as a sort of standard, and this has its roots in biology itself, where men usually do all of the work while females make babies, but also the fact that men are usually more dependent on others’ approval, either always wanting to provide in a perfect way or “enforce” their superiority so that no one can talk back.
I’m not saying that I want anyone to suffer or to be stigmatized and persecuted because of their gender. I’m actively against that. I’m not saying that anyone deserves that kind of treatment. In fact, I never said “They have it coming” word for word. What I’m saying is that in this day and age, the fact that the degradation of mental health and functions in men can be attributed to a generational standard that they have put on themselves is cosmically ironic.
Not to say I find that funny, righteous, correct, deserved even, or that I don’t want that to change, it’s just ironic.
Of course sexism and sexual harassment and abuse faced by men is important and shouldn’t be passed under the rug. There should be higher awareness about this sort of thing, and I find it disgusting how this is ignored in media and in general discussion.
What I’m also saying is that it’s more important to women because they’ve faced this for as long as humans existed. They have an entire HISTORY behind fighting sexual abuse and sexism and getting rights men already had. And they’re more targeted then men since the old sexist standards, norms and stigmas that say “men = this”, “women = that” and “men > women” from the Antiquity still exist today. Less pronounced, yes, but still there. There’s solidarity in women’s rights, which isn’t a thing for men. A lot of men don’t get sexually abused or harassed.
I’m hearing you out, but you haven’t done anything to prove that sexism and sexual abuse is not a more deciding and important factor in women’s lives compared to men’s. And you haven’t listened to me either, instead calling me slurs and flipping me off. It’s immature quite frankly, and if you can’t cope with the fact that people may have different opinions or say things in ways that might not be completely orthodox, then you should stop commenting.
Men experience LESS sexual abuse and sexism then women, because men imposed those sexist societal norms in the first place.
Sure, men do experience this, but compared to women it is rather negligible. And getting help or sympathy is a whole different thing. We men have made ourselves look stronger and more capable over millenia, even though we aren't and we just have a tendency to be secretive with our feelings (again, because of societal norms imposed by ourselves). And even though you have no proof that men don't get help or sympathy afterwards (which is actually sexist), our norms MAY have screwed ourselves over.
Point is, women experience 3 times on average more sexual abuse and sexism then men and so sexual abuse and sexism is more important for them than it is us.
