I've read much of the Mueller Report and I heard Barr. He misrepresented the contents in a major way by leaving out the statement that the Trump campaign sought help from and was willing to accept help from Russians. That Mueller could not prove conspiracy is true, because Don T Jr. had a meeting with Russians that ultimately went nowhere. But Don Jr. was very interested in what they had. Trump himself told the Russians to find Hilary's emails and Wikileaks started publishing them that day. The other misrepresentation is about the 10 instances of obstruction. Sure Barr didn't find sufficient evidence. Read the report. There's a ton of evidence. Mueller didn't charge Trump because he relied on the DOJ position that a sitting president can not be charged. However, Mueller virtually begged Congress to act.
Barr explicitly said pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. Do you seriously believe that someone of his experience, or even someone his age without being in law enforcement thinks pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. Naturally occurring or not as you say about arsenic, it's an irritant. Chemicals don't have to be made in the lab—"A chemical substance is a form of matter having constant chemical composition and characteristic properties."—and of course any pepper spray used by police is going to be refined in a lab.
LIED FOR A WEEK? Are you saying that no police forces have used tear gas during these demonstrations, and yes, looting and rioting.
You are correct, my mistake, he did say pavers and bricks were thrown, but he was talking about the days before this action. There are multiple eyewitness reports that the protesters were peaceful. There is no footage that I know of to support Barr's claim. And if such actions occurred, why was no one arrested?
This administration has acted unlawfully since day one and throughout the election. So I will continue to point it out when I see it.
From here, it is clear we are not going to agree. We see the same evidence and reach different conclusions.
Well, saying that chemical irritants were not used in a statement where he says pepper balls were used is clearly a lie. He also lied about the contents of Mueller Report. That’s 2. I’m not going to spend time researching other instances.
And if he had killed someone with arsenic, which is naturally occurring, could he credibly say he didn’t use poison. You’re resorting to a favorite tactic to defend administration lies, which is to claim that the clear meaning of words isn’t what they mean. Pepper spray isn’t a chemical, disinfectants aren’t poisons because most people think of them as antibiotics. Seriously? If he was splitting hairs that finely the only reason to do it was to convey a falsehood.
Yes, he said bricks and pavers were thrown but not in Lafayette Square. Are you suggesting that actions in one city justifies attacking peaceful protesters in another?
Yes, that is correct I’ve done some work with the police and they were all very decent. That doesn’t excuse the behavior of cops who violate our rights or who murder blacks while arresting them, or who drive police vans into crowds, or who push over a protester who is merely talking to him then leave him lying and bleeding on the sidewalk. All those decent cops should be outraged at the behavior or the few who sully the uniform.
The interview I heard he never said anything about bricks being thrown, he simply said there was violence despite video coverage and many eyewitness reports to the contrary. Saying that no chemical irritants is a lie because he said pepper balls were used. The statement is self contradictory. You don’t have to know what’s on the website of any company to know that pepper spray is a chemical irritant, images from any usage of it will tell you that.
Non-lethal force has its place. I’m not changing my mind, I’m saying there was no reason to clear Lafayette Square or use any force, just so Trump could cross the street for a photo op.
He is the AG and he has a history of not being truthful.
John Connolly, the governor or Texas who was in the limo with JFK. Strom Thurmond, a Democratic Senator who ran for president for the explicitly segregationist Dixiecrat party after the trying and failing to block the Civil Rights Act. Those are 2 off the top of my head. You can research more if you like.
