I actually didn't know he was Syrian origined till today

No I don't. Should I?

His name is Sirhan Sirhan.

So what? He's not even Syrian.

He was more or less a Palestinian "refugee". The point is refugees are not ALWAYS great citizens.

Was he more or less a refugee? Was he even a refugee or a legal immigrant? No, they're not always great citizens, agreed. But people born in their countries are not always great citizens either. And immigrants from other countries are not always great in general. Simply, there is nothing special about the modern day refugees from Syria that would make them different than any other people in the world.

Much in the same way not every refugee is Steve Jobs.

Off course, that's true. But not all of them are terrorists or no life's either. Some are or would be like Steve Jobs. :) I just wanted to show that they can be good citizens, or great citizens just as anyone else. But they can surely be bad as well, I'm not saying they can't.

O believe they can as well and want those solid contributors to come here and show some of the lazy asses in this country how its done. I also want them properly vetted. That's all I think any of us want that are asking to slow down the influx.

I'm not labeling all who protest against immigration as islamophobes, I am labeling those who perceive all muslims as terrorist, islam as an inherently violent religion (for the difference than christianity), those who agree with Trumps ideas about making a registry for the muslims and banning all muslims from entering the country as islamophobes. And you sure can't deny there are lot of people like that. Trump is one of them, and he gets lots of support for sure. Even if someone is mad because of these problems for a reason, he should sure be triggered by Trump's ideas as a step into islamophobia, and in fact totalitarianism and fascism. If he isn't, then that person is either very ignorant and careless or islamophobe as well. And I mean, we know there are many people who think like that and who are islamophobes. If you deny that, you're denying an obvious reality, that's visible even here on imgflip.

While about that guy who shot the Kennedy, you know that he is a Palestinian Christian? That's just another part of the issue largely ignored by ignorant people in the west... There are christians suffering under Israeli oppression, just as there are 10 percent of Christians in Syria and in fact most of them support Bashar Al Assad. Iraqi christians also supported Saddam in Iraq, because Syrian and Iraqi regimes were secular and strict on any kind of religious violence. There are cases, and lots of cases of christians or atheists in the west doing violence to muslims just because of their religion. It was just a while after a Charlie Hebdo incident that an atheist in the US killed two muslims because of their religion. And there are other cases of muslims being beaten or killed, just that not in big numbers at once. But it doesn't mean it isn't happening. I don't have anything against states caring about their security and targeting potentially violent muslims. But they should do the same with christian or atheist right wing extremists. And the Trump's ideas are an entirely different thing, that's pure fascism upon muslims, what he advocates.

I agree with the first paragraph to some extent, however the broad brush you slap that paint on with, causes me not to take a lot of what you have said in the past seriously or put any thought into the subject from your point of view.
yes I knew Sirhan was a Christian. I used him only as an example for being careful. We can debate Isrealli-Arab affairs at another time, that is too much to insert into this.

What you will take or not take from me is your thing. I am just stating things, I can arguement them and send you the links to back them up. If you don't agree with me you don't have to. Israeli-Palestinian conflict and broader middle east conflict are a broader issue, I also don't think this is a place to debate them. But we can sure do it, when a chance happens, if you ask me. :)

I'm sure it will :) I look forward to it.

Me as well. :) In the meantime, you can look at thist statistic if you want to: http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

It's about terrorism in the US and Europe and group percentages. Well, see you next time in some occasion. :)

That's understandable. I think government should be more careful, you could make a programme to make it work. You could have a, three years deadline for example, for the refugees to find a job. Or two years deadline to learn the language and a 4 year deadline to find a job. Maybe not for every refugee, you could have some criteria. I think it's doable, people are just kind of uncaring and paranoid. I posted this image because of that 'refugees are nothing but bad' mentality. There are people who think like that, I know in my country and region lot's of them do. I'm from Europe, Bosnia and Herzegovina. But I travel a lot through Europe and am related to other countries in my region, so I know how's it like.

Its not irrational paranoia though. One of the shooter is California had been interviewed by 3-4 agencies but because she didn't write anything on her app, she went through the system. The ACLU would have a field day with anyone trying to force the refugees to learn a language. Some shit for brains somewhere determined it was easier for all of America to learn/use and otherwise deal with Spanish than it was to teach English to immigrants. We can't even get criminals from other countries deported much less a refugee with no job after 3 years. It is a mess here right now, which is why Trump's statement while not eloquently stated hits home for so many,

I understand. It is messy, I'm sure it is. But the thing is, you just can't elevate the risk of terrorism with any migrant group, or local group. And you can't elevate the fact that some people are islamophobes and blame all muslims for their terrorists while ignoring terrorism done by whites or christians, like Breivik in Norway, or Charleston shooter, etc. In a way it's easier to come down on a minority cause there aren't many of them so it's easier to control them. But it's also because of the propaganda portrayed equalising all muslims as terrorists, which misses the point entirely. I guess that's what motivates me for this meme. But of course, I'm not trying to say that muslims are entirely innocent. No one is, we all have extremists in our groups. I could describe myself as a socialist leftist... And in the 60ies leftists in Germany did terrorist acts in their agenda on fighting capitalism. I would sure not approve it, although, we might actually have the same beliefs. I mean you understand, I don't think I have to explain it much.

While, in fact, I don't doubt that it is messy about those things in the US. And about immigrants in general. I don't know much, so I guess I can't tell much either. I think in that case, what would be necessary is to separate those problems from a refugee problem. Or at least, to put a refugee problem in a broader context of a greater immigrant problem, and try to discuss it like that. That could solve something. What is being done with Trump is actually a very cheap political profiting from a greater problem, and using it as an excuse for chauvinism and completely ignorant propaganda. It is actually like what Hitler did with the Jews... He blamed all the problems in Germany on them. I know lot of people pull the Hitler card easily, but in fact it is like that, but Hitler also isn't the only xenophobe there are for sure. :) Whatever it is, Trump phenomenon is in fact bad for the US for sure, and it lowers the level of intellect in the debate to the point where, not that you don't solve the problem, but you are on your way to make it even worse.

These are extremely complicated issues and more people understand the complexity than are given credit. Trump taps into a simplification if not overly so. To label everyone racist or anti-Muslim extremists because they want the process slowed and controlled is a ridiculous overstatement of the case and results in a loss of credibility. As for Muslims in this country, I have yet to see any examples of extreme acts of violence against them. Under the circumstances I think America has shown remarkable restraint. I do want to touch back on my original comment to your meme and why this was important. I would have taken a Robert Kennedy over a Steve Jobs trade any day. We would have been out of Viet Nam much faster, the cold war could have come to a quicker end and civil rights would be 20-30 years further along if Lyndon Johnson had never held that office. It only took a couple of dozen or so on 9/11 to destroy what it took 10s of thousands to build. Just because a number is comparatively small, it does not mean it is any less dangerous.

His father was not an immigrant. The man impregnated his mother while he studied for PhD, ran away back to Syria and he lives and works there.
The poor woman needed to give the child for adoption.
If you want to learn anything from this story, don't trust refugees is more like it.
BTW. I am Syrian, and I don't agree that all Syrians should be treated like peaceful cattle.