I mean honestly, who uses a "mass shooting" as a political tool?

There have been so many lately I'm almost ready to start believing the folks that say the government is behind them.

If you can't put two and two together that this hasn't happened like this under any other president and is 90% likely to be our current admin, then I don't know what to tell you man. The UN said it wanted us to be disarmed over the next decade and Obama is helping them like a treasonous bitch. :l

I guess it's that part of me that wants to believe that while our government is bad, it's not totally evil.

Not every piece of a submarine fires the nukes. Same with Governments. Not every cog/employee is evil. But indifference or ignorance to/of evil is just as bad though. I just wish more that could see it would speak up. :)

I was watching an interesting show on H2 today about secret jails in the US. I only caught the last half of it, I'm going to try to see if it's available on demand or over their website.

Secret Jails are interesting. The film Old Boy had one as a plot point. The idea that you could be put somewhere without anyone you love knowing where you are is horrendous in some ways. I see it's justification with National Security, but that should only be as needed and not just throw trouble makers in there.

The government is great at hiding large populations like that though with secret cities too. Not to mention all the underground caves/bunkers they have.

The government can keep things a secret if they want to, and that's how I see the concept of a shadow government. Instead of ever telling us about it, the government just shows us something like a stealth fighter or Guantanamo or an Iran Contra level fiasco, but never the big enchilada. The UN is the Illuminati/shadow government though. They want to control the globe and any planets we spread to. :l

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/10/16/an-ex-muslims-warning-do-yourself-a-favor-and-read-this/

It's up there with Scarface and The Boondock Saints for me. The American version is good, but nowhere near as awesome as the Korean film. I hear it started as a manga though. Must have been a good one. :)

I think I've seen one of the other two vengence films. Not sure though. I saw Ichi The Killer and Audition though. lol They're in the same vein. I want to get a copy of the manga for Old Boy sometime. You're not missing much by not seeing the American version of it. It's good, just not anywhere close to Odaisu and the Korean version. Him eating the Octopus is another great scene. "I want to eat something living." Hardcore dude. :)

Ever since Obama's "Fast and Furious" scandal, and failure to implement more gun control,.. there are more mass shootings,... its too many to dismiss. Add that to Obama's support of a UN international gun control,.. completely disregarding the constitution, and it paint a nasty picture that deserves attenion. This a good meme!

Thanks Invicta103. Hopefully more people start seeing these patterns. :)

See that's one I remember well. There is no way that is a real father suffering the death of a child. That dude is full of shit. :l

Yeah. If anyone believes that dude it is WILLFUL ignorance. You'd have to squeeze your eyes shut to keep from seeing it is bullshit.
In fact, I have read several articles that say the government claims that Sandyhook was a drill. It is the people wanting to believe it that is keeping that one going.

lol I just noticed the bit of green on his nose. ROFL!

And yeah, willful ignorance indeed. Sandy Hook is an obvious attempt to get people to want to ban the AR-15. F**k...that...shit. All I can say is come and get mine! :)

I CAN SEE YOU! lol
See, I don't think it is going to happen like that. It will happen in small ways that will cause each man to stand on his own. There will be no hill to die on. This will not play out like the civil war.
Here is how I think it may/could go. They make it difficult to get a gun, or they add restrictions that cause you to have to reregister them or something to that affect. You decide, f**k that, no way. So now you are "breaking the law". You somehow get caught with it. You get arrested. They take your shit. Doopeedoo.
Let's not forget the social ostracism.
Or, you have guns, somehow you are "linked" with other people who have guns. Now you are labeled as a terrorist group. Dun dun dun.
However it happens, it will be unlikely that this country will stand up and do a thing about it. Just like we don't do a thing about random traffic stops. Because, you're on your way to a movie or grocery shopping or your kid has a cold and you need cough syrup. Is TODAY the day you want to challenge it and go to jail? Do you have the bail money? Will you lose your job? F**k it, you give them your license and go about your day a little more pissed off that you know how owned you just got.

You're forgetting how easy it actually is to make a gun. And with 3d printers and files already circulating on the net for AR's and other firearm parts, Guns will always be obtainable.

But yeah I do see them taking a different approach this time. They know they have to do it incrementally to win, because if it goes revolutionary on them they lose again.

And in order for them to catch/take my shit they'd have to kill me. Yes, I'm one of those guys who is more than willing to fight to the death over my rights. Not just words, I actually practice. I also know that tanks aren't as impervious to small arms fire as they'd have you think.

It only took 3% of the population in 1776, but we won't need that much today.

You sound like you've given up already too.

Where there is a will, there is a way. :l

Depends on what you mean by given up. :-) I don't see it that way. I see it as standing up.
I make very conscious decisions now. I have drawn my own lines of what is and is not cool for me. If I make a concession it is not absent minded and it is with purpose.
There are things that go on that I no longer take part in. I will just say that I do what I am biblically called to do to the best of my abilities. But I do it with eyes wide open.
This is an age, whether all people recognize it or not, of decisions. The attack is blatantly on truth. Do we choose Truth or do we choose other?
I am SO happy to have found a community here that cares about these things too.

The reason I said you've given up is that you seem to think that there is no standing against the UN in combat. A tank is not impervious to damage. If you just meant other people seem like they won't fight, you're right. But it's not as many as the media would have you think. There's more of US than there is of them. :)

I believe that there are ample amount of people to fight and who would fight. Our little county came under the attack of the anti-confederate movement just this past summer. Our little country almost lost our monument that has stood in our county seat's court square memorializing our confederate military members for the last 101 years. We ... came out in droves. You have never seen so many confederate, battle flags, don't tread on me, and bonnie blues lol We not only saved our monument, we have In God We Trust on both of our courthouses and in our municipal building. We did that with 5 days notice start to finish. That SC event sparked groups like ours all over the east coast.
So, yeah, I think we have the people. But let's look and Bundy ranch. People came out. Some crossed the country to be there. And we "backed" the feds up. Barely. And it was calculated. Who will win that? Bundy is still losing his ranch. They won't "fight" us. Because they will lose. But. The will paper us to death. A hyena doesn't kill a herd of animals at a time. It hunts in packs that pick off prey one by one. It chooses the weak and stragglers. That is who we are up against, hyenas.
Wars are not won or lost in big impressive brawls. They are won in smaller, sometimes insignificant, battles over a period of time.
Our best defense is not to go in anywhere guns blazing. But to live as we ought, to educate young and old and everyone we meet to the truth. To not condescend and name call those who do not yet see. But to live ... and encourage life.
Wouldn't you agree?

I only agree partially. I still think it will take an armed resistance to this NWO agenda being pushed.

And eventually, the UN will bring troops here to accomplish that. I'd lie to get it over with now before that happens, but it will probably take seeing those little blue helmets for most people. :l

It's like the wife who knows her man is cheating but won't admit it to herself. She'll have to catch him in the act before she will deal with the fact that her WHOLE WORLD is crashing down around her. She has too much invested to acknowledge it. She is unprepared for what life would be like without him so she decides that it just isn't true in order to hold things together. And she washes his dirty clothes and believes him when he says if forgot his ring on the sink and shreds the phone bill after paying it. And don't you mention it. If you do she will attack you, cut ties with you and accuse you of being jealous of her or wanting her man. lol Willful ignorance.
The shit has gotten real. Ain't a lot to do about it other than make sure you stay awake and walk through the nightmare.
Don't you just love a metaphor? ;-)

Yep! Great use of it too. :)

The Lego Movie. Obvious brainwashing into thinking everything is okay and will resolve itself in the end. Even with how they mention that an oil company owns the media. lol :)

Yeah, it was marketed to kids but definitely was political, social commentary. I loved it.

Nah I doubt it. lol But yeah I can totally see some audits being used to "silence" people. :)

http://heyjackass.com/
Will help with another similar meme

lol That's an interesting site. Haven't heard of it before. Thanks man. :)

You touched on a subject I have not seen... I think its gonna fly high brother!

The armed citizens of the US represent the largest armed force the world has ever known, I imagine. I can see no reason why a government that wishes to control every aspect of our lives would like to take our protection away, can you? Taking our guns would mean certain revolution (no one in their right mind would hand them over willingly in such a case) so the smart way is to brain wash us into believing we will be safer without them. That is how it was explained to me

Yeah. I think it was Ben Franklin who said that "those who trade liberty for security will have neither." It's not our gov. that wants it though, it's the UN. And Obama works for them. :l

did you know that it only takes 4 people in the area and a person to be injured by a bullet to qualify as a mass shooting. i could get 3 of my friends and shoot myself in the foot and it would be a mass shooting

This is how the admin fudges stats,.. excellent point brother!

And? What's your point? Were you even trying to make one?

I put "mass shootings" in quotations for a reason. The point is that Obama is using them as political tools not that the Government is committing them.

And the definition for mass shooting is multiple victims of gun violence, so your example wouldn't qualify. It would just be an "incident". If you shot your foot and your friends feet as well, then I'm sure Obama would jump on it like it was a "mass shooting". lol :l

no point, just information

But it was flawed/faulty info, so.... :{

Really? You saw the same people at this shooting and another? :l

If you can believe anything anymore ... I've seen articles and youtube videos of crisis actors being used over and over. Even Boston bombing. Now some of the people they are saying are the same is ridiculous. You have to take everything with a grain of salt. But ... if you can believe what you see anymore ... yes. They have reused them.
And the halftime show with the Sandyhook kids ... that shit was just creepy. Check it out, watch the background screen and then listen to Bruno Mars after. That whole thing is just insane.

I've heard of crisis actors being used at events but not the same actors at different events. That's just lazy cover up work. lol I'll check it out. I think I've seen it already, but I can always rewatch it. :l

One of the most notable ones is the teacher from Sandyhook. And yeah, if it is true, that is seriously lazy. She's supposed to be dead.DOH!

lol It's like that scene when MST3k was watching Space Mutiny and a character who was just killed appears in the foreground of the next scene. lol They keep pointing at her going "Hey wait! She's dead!" lol :)

I love that show. Love it :-D They're so great. Did you see them do the Bill Nye video? :-D hahahaha

No, but I'm no Nye fan so I probably won't like it unless they're ripping into him. :l

Oh yeah. It is. Check it out.

Okay, that great and a perfect argument against abortion which is awesome and well presented, so thanks for sharing that with me.

But, you misrepresented it by saying that it was the MST3K guys doing it. That wasn't them. It was especially not them. lol :)

Oh. Dang it. I thought it was. I am watched it back in the 90s. I thought these were new guys lol I've been fooled!!!! lol
Not misrepresented. Mistaken :-)

Actually...

Misrepresent = give a false or misleading account of the nature of. Synonyms= misstate, misquote, distort, misinterpret, etc.

So no, it doesn't mean you intended to mislead me. All I meant was that you misrepresented the information. I didn't mean to suggest you did it intentionally and if that's what you read into my comment, sorry. :l

Oh ok, whew. :-) All is well.

They rip into him? Seriously? Get me a link if you can. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4KOTnIzdzk

No, misrepresented is what I meant to say. But you are ALSO mistaken. So there's that. It was a great video either way and thanks for showing it to me. :)

Ok. I'll bite. Why do you feel that I misrepresented? That requires intent. Do you think I intended to make you believe something that wasn't true? Or is something getting lost in this non-verbal exchange. :-)