I mean honestly, who uses a "mass shooting" as a political tool?

There have been so many lately I'm almost ready to start believing the folks that say the government is behind them.

If you can't put two and two together that this hasn't happened like this under any other president and is 90% likely to be our current admin, then I don't know what to tell you man. The UN said it wanted us to be disarmed over the next decade and Obama is helping them like a treasonous bitch. :l

I guess it's that part of me that wants to believe that while our government is bad, it's not totally evil.

Not every piece of a submarine fires the nukes. Same with Governments. Not every cog/employee is evil. But indifference or ignorance to/of evil is just as bad though. I just wish more that could see it would speak up. :)

I was watching an interesting show on H2 today about secret jails in the US. I only caught the last half of it, I'm going to try to see if it's available on demand or over their website.

Secret Jails are interesting. The film Old Boy had one as a plot point. The idea that you could be put somewhere without anyone you love knowing where you are is horrendous in some ways. I see it's justification with National Security, but that should only be as needed and not just throw trouble makers in there.

The government is great at hiding large populations like that though with secret cities too. Not to mention all the underground caves/bunkers they have.

The government can keep things a secret if they want to, and that's how I see the concept of a shadow government. Instead of ever telling us about it, the government just shows us something like a stealth fighter or Guantanamo or an Iran Contra level fiasco, but never the big enchilada. The UN is the Illuminati/shadow government though. They want to control the globe and any planets we spread to. :l

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/10/16/an-ex-muslims-warning-do-yourself-a-favor-and-read-this/

It's up there with Scarface and The Boondock Saints for me. The American version is good, but nowhere near as awesome as the Korean film. I hear it started as a manga though. Must have been a good one. :)

I think I've seen one of the other two vengence films. Not sure though. I saw Ichi The Killer and Audition though. lol They're in the same vein. I want to get a copy of the manga for Old Boy sometime. You're not missing much by not seeing the American version of it. It's good, just not anywhere close to Odaisu and the Korean version. Him eating the Octopus is another great scene. "I want to eat something living." Hardcore dude. :)

Ever since Obama's "Fast and Furious" scandal, and failure to implement more gun control,.. there are more mass shootings,... its too many to dismiss. Add that to Obama's support of a UN international gun control,.. completely disregarding the constitution, and it paint a nasty picture that deserves attenion. This a good meme!

Thanks Invicta103. Hopefully more people start seeing these patterns. :)

See that's one I remember well. There is no way that is a real father suffering the death of a child. That dude is full of shit. :l

Yeah. If anyone believes that dude it is WILLFUL ignorance. You'd have to squeeze your eyes shut to keep from seeing it is bullshit.
In fact, I have read several articles that say the government claims that Sandyhook was a drill. It is the people wanting to believe it that is keeping that one going.

lol I just noticed the bit of green on his nose. ROFL!

And yeah, willful ignorance indeed. Sandy Hook is an obvious attempt to get people to want to ban the AR-15. F**k...that...shit. All I can say is come and get mine! :)

I CAN SEE YOU! lol
See, I don't think it is going to happen like that. It will happen in small ways that will cause each man to stand on his own. There will be no hill to die on. This will not play out like the civil war.
Here is how I think it may/could go. They make it difficult to get a gun, or they add restrictions that cause you to have to reregister them or something to that affect. You decide, f**k that, no way. So now you are "breaking the law". You somehow get caught with it. You get arrested. They take your shit. Doopeedoo.
Let's not forget the social ostracism.
Or, you have guns, somehow you are "linked" with other people who have guns. Now you are labeled as a terrorist group. Dun dun dun.
However it happens, it will be unlikely that this country will stand up and do a thing about it. Just like we don't do a thing about random traffic stops. Because, you're on your way to a movie or grocery shopping or your kid has a cold and you need cough syrup. Is TODAY the day you want to challenge it and go to jail? Do you have the bail money? Will you lose your job? F**k it, you give them your license and go about your day a little more pissed off that you know how owned you just got.

You're forgetting how easy it actually is to make a gun. And with 3d printers and files already circulating on the net for AR's and other firearm parts, Guns will always be obtainable.

But yeah I do see them taking a different approach this time. They know they have to do it incrementally to win, because if it goes revolutionary on them they lose again.

And in order for them to catch/take my shit they'd have to kill me. Yes, I'm one of those guys who is more than willing to fight to the death over my rights. Not just words, I actually practice. I also know that tanks aren't as impervious to small arms fire as they'd have you think.

It only took 3% of the population in 1776, but we won't need that much today.

You sound like you've given up already too.

Where there is a will, there is a way. :l

Depends on what you mean by given up. :-) I don't see it that way. I see it as standing up.
I make very conscious decisions now. I have drawn my own lines of what is and is not cool for me. If I make a concession it is not absent minded and it is with purpose.
There are things that go on that I no longer take part in. I will just say that I do what I am biblically called to do to the best of my abilities. But I do it with eyes wide open.
This is an age, whether all people recognize it or not, of decisions. The attack is blatantly on truth. Do we choose Truth or do we choose other?
I am SO happy to have found a community here that cares about these things too.

The reason I said you've given up is that you seem to think that there is no standing against the UN in combat. A tank is not impervious to damage. If you just meant other people seem like they won't fight, you're right. But it's not as many as the media would have you think. There's more of US than there is of them. :)

I believe that there are ample amount of people to fight and who would fight. Our little county came under the attack of the anti-confederate movement just this past summer. Our little country almost lost our monument that has stood in our county seat's court square memorializing our confederate military members for the last 101 years. We ... came out in droves. You have never seen so many confederate, battle flags, don't tread on me, and bonnie blues lol We not only saved our monument, we have In God We Trust on both of our courthouses and in our municipal building. We did that with 5 days notice start to finish. That SC event sparked groups like ours all over the east coast.
So, yeah, I think we have the people. But let's look and Bundy ranch. People came out. Some crossed the country to be there. And we "backed" the feds up. Barely. And it was calculated. Who will win that? Bundy is still losing his ranch. They won't "fight" us. Because they will lose. But. The will paper us to death. A hyena doesn't kill a herd of animals at a time. It hunts in packs that pick off prey one by one. It chooses the weak and stragglers. That is who we are up against, hyenas.
Wars are not won or lost in big impressive brawls. They are won in smaller, sometimes insignificant, battles over a period of time.
Our best defense is not to go in anywhere guns blazing. But to live as we ought, to educate young and old and everyone we meet to the truth. To not condescend and name call those who do not yet see. But to live ... and encourage life.
Wouldn't you agree?

I only agree partially. I still think it will take an armed resistance to this NWO agenda being pushed.

And eventually, the UN will bring troops here to accomplish that. I'd lie to get it over with now before that happens, but it will probably take seeing those little blue helmets for most people. :l

It's like the wife who knows her man is cheating but won't admit it to herself. She'll have to catch him in the act before she will deal with the fact that her WHOLE WORLD is crashing down around her. She has too much invested to acknowledge it. She is unprepared for what life would be like without him so she decides that it just isn't true in order to hold things together. And she washes his dirty clothes and believes him when he says if forgot his ring on the sink and shreds the phone bill after paying it. And don't you mention it. If you do she will attack you, cut ties with you and accuse you of being jealous of her or wanting her man. lol Willful ignorance.
The shit has gotten real. Ain't a lot to do about it other than make sure you stay awake and walk through the nightmare.
Don't you just love a metaphor? ;-)

Yep! Great use of it too. :)

The Lego Movie. Obvious brainwashing into thinking everything is okay and will resolve itself in the end. Even with how they mention that an oil company owns the media. lol :)

Yeah, it was marketed to kids but definitely was political, social commentary. I loved it.

Nah I doubt it. lol But yeah I can totally see some audits being used to "silence" people. :)

http://heyjackass.com/
Will help with another similar meme

lol That's an interesting site. Haven't heard of it before. Thanks man. :)

You touched on a subject I have not seen... I think its gonna fly high brother!

did you know that it only takes 4 people in the area and a person to be injured by a bullet to qualify as a mass shooting. i could get 3 of my friends and shoot myself in the foot and it would be a mass shooting

This is how the admin fudges stats,.. excellent point brother!

And? What's your point? Were you even trying to make one?

I put "mass shootings" in quotations for a reason. The point is that Obama is using them as political tools not that the Government is committing them.

And the definition for mass shooting is multiple victims of gun violence, so your example wouldn't qualify. It would just be an "incident". If you shot your foot and your friends feet as well, then I'm sure Obama would jump on it like it was a "mass shooting". lol :l

no point, just information

But it was flawed/faulty info, so.... :{

The armed citizens of the US represent the largest armed force the world has ever known, I imagine. I can see no reason why a government that wishes to control every aspect of our lives would like to take our protection away, can you? Taking our guns would mean certain revolution (no one in their right mind would hand them over willingly in such a case) so the smart way is to brain wash us into believing we will be safer without them. That is how it was explained to me

Yeah. I think it was Ben Franklin who said that "those who trade liberty for security will have neither." It's not our gov. that wants it though, it's the UN. And Obama works for them. :l

You know what's sad about your claim? I don't even watch FOX News. You're assuming I do because you have no other argument to make against the logic of Obama's admin being responsible for things like this or Fast and Furious. It's sad that you don't have logical reasoning as a skill. :l

Too many like every year and administration.

I guess he isn't taking our guns, huh?

What do you mean by every admin? This is all happening under Obama's alone. Bill Clinton had Columbine and Waco. Bush had the school shooting in Arkansas and I don't remember any others under his. But Obama has had a shit ton. And almost every week now for the last year or two. That's way too suspicious.

And as for taking our guns, he is being coerced by the UN to disarm the American citizens. It's happening already, just still slowly. But They're going to keep trying till they get their way. :l

Even your dolls have guns....see? They aren't going anywhere.
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haha...yeah. Your logic is flawed.

If there are so many shootings under Obama that must mean there are more guns. Alsolook at ANY gun sale chart. They ain't going anywhere, genius.

Also- there have been mass shootings under all presidents. You just choose to be blind to those under your loving republican presidents.

Are you willfully ignorant or just stupid? Take off the tin foil hat.

Here is a list. Learn something.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

lol You think I don't like Obama because you think I'm a Republican. lol

I'm smart enough to see through people like him. You would be too if you weren't so busy stalking people online.

You're right that there have been mass shootings before Obama and under other presidents. I actually didn't deny that.

You obviously misinterpreted my comment with your preconceived anti-Republican angst.

I mean, you use catch phrase terms like "tin foil hat". That's just how obviously flawed YOUR logic is.

Okay and on that list the number starts off low and fluctuates regularly until Obama's admin. Bush had 13 MS's while Obama has had 29. That's the point. Obama has had the most. And they keep mentioning a specific weapon like the AR-15 and then it happens to be used for like five MS's in a row? Are you that naive to think that's not an obvious manipulation to disarm us? Obama's admin is obviously manipulating us into wanting to remove the 2nd Amendment. AMC just launched a show that has a premise of guns are banned and people all use martial arts. Other shows have the anti-gun meme within them as well.

The 2nd Amendment is also not about firearms alone. It's about all weapons. An individual is allowed to have any kind of weapon(Arms/Armaments) to defend themselves and the country if need be. It also say sit cannot be infringed which means broken or altered. Meaning, you can't make any restrictions on it or amend it. It's plain English and they want you to believe that it means only firearms and that they didn't understand the future of weaponry. Which is bullshit. They had crazy people just like we do and they didn't restrict them from owning firearms or defending themselves. And contrary to popular belief people back then weren't burning everyone at the stake thinking they were witches. The media also tries to imply that the colonials were retarded compared to us now.

I'm not saying Obama himself is doing this either. He's allowing it to happen and benefiting from it. :l

Your meme is getting lots of comments! Great observation on these mass shootings. It inspired a lot of thought to what's going on.

lol Globalism makes me think WTF? Not us fighting the empire. I really wish Imgflip had an edit button. lol :)

I meant to ask you before.. have you studied political science, government, or history. Your knowledge in your comments really shows. Especially in American history. An Informed reply make is difficult to dispute.. and you nail it every time.

I didn't. I just like to read up on history and the Constitution when I'm not reading Star Wars novels and writing sci fi. :)

New crown? Well sir,.... you read all the right stuff!! Very informed!

Start using the word "worldism" to mess with people! Universalism... galaxyism.. galacticism.. etc. Lol

So much for city hall. They used to say you can't fight city hall ... but you could. What you can't fight is the federal government and the UN. Not with paper anyway.

It is so refreshing.. to see informed conservative comments from women. It seems the country has almost regressed in being informed at a time when it appears popular to vote based on color or gender. I like your comments especially, because you don't fall into that demographic at a time when Hillary is trying to motivate voters into the "isn't it time to have a woman president". That's as bad as voters saying we needed a black president,.. and voting on that rather than issues. You must make your husband proud!

Hillary? No. She is one of the most vile, evil women I think I've ever seen. I campaigned against her husband (and her) back in 92. That is one woman who should scare every decent person in this country and any country that her eye lands on. After the things she has done I am appalled that she is even being considered as a candidate. She and her husband both should be in prison. It speaks volumes about this country that her name is on a list of candidates instead of a court docket. She is a murderess.

Globalism is the new way to say Imperialism. Our country was founded fighting an empire and its imperialism. It's one of those things that makes you think WTF? :l

Great posting points. Globalization and globalism are used to describe anything from world markets, world dominance,.. etc.