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I'm vegetarian, but not a vegan extremist: i don't think that animals are better than us, i'm just pro-life and against abortion

I'm vegetarian, but not a vegan extremist: i don't think that animals are better than us, i'm just pro-life and against abortion | WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT YOU CAN BE VEGETARIAN WITHOUT BEING A MISANTHROPIC EXTREMIST. . ? | image tagged in memes,matrix morpheus | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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i don't ignore it. I know where the milk or cheese i buy comes from... And drinking milk in itself is not a bad thing, as vegans think... Eating a killed animal instead is bad in itself. Just because some industries produce milk in a bad way that doesn't make drinking milk a bad thing. ...Or you should stop, for example, playing football just because some balls are made by underage workers..? Vegans are blinded extremists... if you don't milk a cow, her boobs will explode... :)
2 ups, 10y,
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Tss...
1. Oh, yeah? Where does your milk come from? A magical source where they don't need to impregnate the animal to get it, separate it from its young, kill the young because it's cost-inefficient to raise them, and then doesn't slaughter the mother for food when it no longer can give milk? Please cite, I'm dying to hear this one.

2. "Or you should stop, for example, playing football just because some balls are made by underage wrokers..?" ---You can play football without a ball containing animal products or exploiting unfair wages--- but, it's not as if these "unfair wages" come from a country that have a security net for their people. They're typically better off with these so-called "unfair wages" (where their money goes further) than with nothing at all. Your argument (when correctly premised) more accurately reflects the comparison of drinking milk to drinking a milk substitute.

3. "If you don't milk a cow, her boobs explode."
-Yeah? There are other ways to avoid her boobs exploding. Two I can think of off the top of my head: let her young feed on them, don't forcibly impregnate her... You know... Humane shit like that.

"Vegans are blinded extremists."
-Really? Because you seem to be the one tailoring your arguments to your convenience and self-image. But, way to typify.

Also, I can think of a handful of vegans with more than enough reason to talk shit about their veganism who don't do it... Johnny Depp, Mac Danzig... Woody Harrelson...

But, please, tell me this magical process by which your milk is extracted "ethically" (RE: no forceful insemination, no separation of mother from her young, no slaughter of the mother when she's given out, no slaughter of the calf when it is separated, and somehow manages to gather the cow's consent throughout the process).

I'm waiting...
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...it's clear that You never lived in touch with REAL animals, your "point 3" and your idea clearly demonstrates that...Just try to put that into practice... i'm waiting too :) ...Your point 2 seems taken from a Perry Mason episode... and what the hell, i would not have to tell You where i come from, anyway i buy that little amount of milk and cheese that i eat from a local (not american) bio store...everything is made locally and without any violence on animals.
2 ups, 10y,
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-If you don't consider forcible impregnation violence, I can imagine you don't consider rape violence.
-It's clear you never actually witnessed what happens at even local farms, as else you'd have seen that when the dairy cows dry up, they are slaughtered, which if you don't consider that violence, then I guess you're not very much against killing.
-I can't help but notice you've still not named the dairy or any 3rd party information which assesses their practices, which tells me you're clearly ignorant of their inner workings and have not done any actual research into them beyond what was advertised to you on a label. For instance, as aforementioned, you've not been able to tell me what they do with their dried-up dairy cows, or where they go.
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0 ups, 10y,
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...You are the demonstration of what i wanted to say with this meme: ...You know all about me, about the place where i buy things, about averything... while You know nothing. I know the persons who sell products to me, and they really love animals. Not like You: You just hate people, as lot of vegans do... i'm just trying to find the time to reply to your angry attacks when i should do so much more important things... You have no respect for others and You think to be better than others, as the majority of vegans... That's why i will not reply to You anymore... It's all wasted time...
2 ups, 10y,
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"...You are the demonstration of what i wanted to say with this meme: ...You know all about me, about the place where i buy things, about averything... while You know nothing."

----I never purported to know everything; all I said is I know how the dairy industry typically works and remains profitable. It is not profitable to keep an exhausted dairy cow, raise her male young, etc., etc.

What I DID do, however, is ask you for proof of your claims, and it's more than clear that not only are you ignoring the request, but you're clearly more angry than I am, as you are attempting to impugn my character while being forced to face your own cognitive dissonance in that you evidently cannot say anything which quantifies your defense of your own actions and character.

Exploiting life for your own gains is as extreme as it gets, and the idea that one life is worth more than another is the cause of all suffering people cause, even upon one another.

Just because something is a societal normative does not make it non-extreme.

What am I really guilty of in this conversation? Asking for evidence of your claim.
How have you responded to this? Calling me an angry typical vegan, assuming of me things you cannot prove, and calling me disrespectful because I put your argument against the facts of the dairy industry and challenged you to offer evidence to the contrary.

I'd call you a troll if I wasn't so thoroughly convinced you didn't believe your own lies.
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You are really a troll... You have only tried to make me say things that i never said or wanted to say, from the beginning... and You know it... but i'm not stupid, so if You want to go on playing this game, go playing it with someone else who has time for it...
2 ups, 10y,
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Still waiting for that evidence I asked for...
Oh, and I'm sorry, didn't you say you were done with this conversation a few comments ago? Will your integrity not allow you to adhere to that, either?
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0 ups, 10y,
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yes, i'm done with this conversation... i stopped replying to You a few comments ago if You didnt' notice...
2 ups, 10y
But... this is, like, your third reply since... are you seriously able to compartmentalize reality that well? That's amazing.
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oh, and You are so good giving me "dislikes" with your multiple accounts :) ...i hope that this will make your life happier... ;)
2 ups, 10y,
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I only gave you the one dislike, and that was only after someone disliked my Morpheus meme. Again, making assumptions of me you know nothing about. Is it possible that maybe- just maybe- other people realize the premise of your meme is bad, and I don't have a sock puppet account?
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oh my goodness, another comment from You, i didn't see that before... sorry... thanks! :)
2 ups, 10y
Fact: cattle birth occurs in approximately a 1:1 male-to-female ratio.
You want the lazy version of evidence?
Drop by your dairy friends' farm and look at the female-to-make ratio,
and feel free to ask where all the males went.
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1 up, 10y
Referring to the Northern states and global intervention of the British.
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Very good point!
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