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IM SO SICK OF ALL THIS DRAMA

IM SO SICK OF ALL THIS DRAMA | Before I get accused I’m not taking sides in the DOTLK Batim Red drama it hurts me since both Batim and DOTLK all are my friends and I’m not trying to pick sides I just want a peaceful solution as a result Dragons owner is removed and before anyone accuses me of blindly following Batim he is not remodded yet this really hurts me; FOR THE RECORD I THINK THIS BULLSHIT BEEF SHOULD BE KEPT OUT OF JACD | image tagged in cheerwine | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
335 views 3 upvotes Made by theoryofsomething 6 days ago in JustaCheemsDoge
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I feel I shouldn't remain silent on the matter...

Recently, my relations with Red have been massively soured after creative differences on the TMCU... Without saying anything in particular, he's been selectively banned from certain TMCU streams... I also believe he should not have a hand in any TMCU projects I own... I'm not trying to pick a side here, but I'm saying that my personal experiences with Red definitely makes me lean...
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(replying here because i cant reply to the other one)

That was a violation? I had no clue, I was just trying to get the actual US military finally involved(since at this point the teams and police have been the only ones holding the line in Madison--also note how it says "Full Request" and not anything provacative--hell Shepherd called Kamala instead of another person to request permission...just saying i thought thered be no harm)
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ello?

*pokepoke*

you there?
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are you just...

gonna ignore this?

or are ya busy

i can wait dont worry
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(also i planned to give the stream to you-)
3 ups, 6d,
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I really don't like how I'm being dragged into all of this. I wasn't even part of the actual conflict.

Red showed me a screenshot of what Batim said to him. This is the screenshot in question:

Theory claims that I "fell for Red's bulls**t" in banning Batim for this screenshot. I didn't even retaliate when Theory unbanned him.

I tried to say that both parties were in the wrong with their whole OC/fanon character fight. But when that screenshot was shared, I decided to ban Batim. Had I known that he and theory were gonna make a big deal out of it, I probably wouldn't have done it.
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Chat with me on Memechat! i wanna know if you think this decision is necessary, but we shoudl keep this private
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wait does to link even work?
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the*
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yo dragon, I gave you ur owner status back
2 ups, 6d,
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I shall tell my side of the situation about the allegations against me.

Yes, Red and I have had a significant fallout, and I acknowledge that I have made satirical jokes or comments mocking his characters (such as mocking "Super Pretztail" for the fact he doesn't kill). Those jokes were intended as jokes, the mockeys were in a channel titled "Roasts" on the original JACD Discord Server that if I remember right that he had deleted a year ago, and I have also attempted to communicate with him professionally when the situation became more serious, only to be called a "Coward" and that "I am deflecting" for distancing myself from him.

However, the message being presented as evidence against me is the part I do not condone. The screenshot being circulated does not represent what I actually sent. I have the original message available, and I am willing to provide it to the appropriate owners/moderators so that it can be compared directly with the screenshot.

I am not asking anyone to simply take my word for it. I am asking that the original conversation be examined by the streams mods, before conclusions are made about what I supposedly said.

I also agree that disputes between communities should not automatically affect someone's status elsewhere. That is precisely why I believe this should be handled based on verifiable evidence and the rules of this community rather than claims made by either side of this situation, I don't intend to continue arguing about this publicly beyond providing the relevant evidence. I would rather have the situation reviewed by the people responsible for moderation and then move forward, with Red distancing himself from the JACD Stream, and me resuming posting TZ related posts and updates on the TZDopm mod I have been working on.
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I’ll focus on this reply in a different post, though I have to correct you about the Discord Server. No, I did not delete it. My older brother deleted it while using my account, as he deemed it unnecessary to have.
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And to your claim that the screenshot doesn’t represent what you say…I don’t know about that.
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Read the other comments for all context
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Irrelevant, but it’s been years since I’ve been in here. Shame to hear cheems left.
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Indeed

I wish he were here to settle this
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Now let’s see where it went wrong.

I tried intervening with a military assault during Baton Rouge.

The Council directly shot it down through Team Timeflip, counting “timeline” reasons.

I call for a hearing, to get a proper reason/explanation. That is also blocked.

I try to DM WT for a reason, but he doesn’t really give an explanation outside of “You really thought sending in military units will make Baton Rouge “more fun”?”

Frustration peaking, I made the posts of those riots, which WT called “pushing it”.

That’s when he decides to gut me from the TMCU, leading to “The Shoving Match” as I now call it.
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Having fallen from grace, and still in shock that he casually “slit my throat” in the TMCU, I was flabbergasted. My internal thoughts were “how in the hell could he do that over a single crashout while people like WAU have done so much worse(like trying to hack WT, manipulating me for personal info, trying to get my brother fired, etc)?!”

Then…that shock, became misguided fury.

Desparation became unmarked involvements, trying to oust the group I deemed responsible.

I tried to even separate Congle(WT) from the mess, but it became apparent he was directly blocking my involvements in the TMCU, both good and bad.

Becoming desperate to try and talk to him, I for some reason get the bright idea to use the Forerunners to finally get the justice I felt was deserving. This finally drew him out in fury, in which led to the creation of the Multiverse, inside the TMCU. No longer would his or my own projects overlap—they would both be canon and uncanon simultaneously. A perfect limbo. A fine balance. All was safe, and secure.

Then…he arrived.
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Y'know... The worst part is that you've broken that truce! (TMCU-001 is the code name for the OG timeline)
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…wait.

Give this the right voice actor and it sounds like a movie script(unrelated)
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Not trying to drag this, but in all honesty I hope both what are you and turkey get slimed.
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Idk what happened with turkey but he disappeared

What are you also baited me into being friends with him before doxxing me and trying to get my family fired from their jobs
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What happened to what are you
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He abandoned imgflip
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I am giving my own two cents on the matter, as one of the “belligerents” in this matter.

Yes, I had a souring in relations with WT after creative failures on both sides. However, let me put it straight; what Batim has said to me is unsafe and toxic. I will upload the screenshot of what he said in a follow up reply, and to say that this situation is f**ked up, is a tremendous understatement.

Am I guilty of beating a Dead Horse in the TMCU with WT? Yes. Does that mean it should affect status in other streams? No. What happens in one area must stay in that area. And besides, Batim has been known to ridicule me for my own personal interests, which is partially what may have influenced me to break my relationship with WT. I’m not assigning full blame to any party, but this is a massive moral failing on behalf of all of us.
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Before I get accused I’m not taking sides in the DOTLK Batim Red drama it hurts me since both Batim and DOTLK all are my friends and I’m not trying to pick sides I just want a peaceful solution as a result Dragons owner is removed and before anyone accuses me of blindly following Batim he is not remodded yet this really hurts me; FOR THE RECORD I THINK THIS BULLSHIT BEEF SHOULD BE KEPT OUT OF JACD