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4 ups, 1d,
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… Iran and the Ayatollahs have been declaring “death to America” for 47 years. The USA is not starting this war. I, for one, am glad he is not letting them get nuclear bombs they will put on ballistic missiles capable of reaching the U.S.
1 up, 18h
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0 ups, 1d,
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Operation Ajax says otherwise.
1 up, 23h
The U.S. Constitution indeed grants Congress the power to "declare" war, and the Founders were deliberate with their word choice: James Madison and Founding Father Elbridge Gerry chose it as a replacement for the power to "make" war. Their rationale? To leave "to the Executive the power to repel sudden attacks."

Or as Alexander Hamilton explained to Congress in 1801, "When a foreign nation declares, or openly and avowedly makes war upon the United States, they are then, by the very fact, already at war, and any declaration on the part of Congress is nugatory."

There is no such thing as a one-sided war.
1 up, 13h,
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Operation Ajax was inspired by the British.
0 ups, 13h,
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Yes, it was an operation involving the British and US to take control of Iran's oil and led to the creation of BP.
1 up, 13h
The British dragged the US into it.
3 ups, 1d,
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1995 -
President Clinton initiated Operation Deliberate Force, a massive military attack on Serbia. Due to their leaders genocide.

PBS quoted "He didn't blink," National Security Coordinator Richard Clarke said. "We knew that day that we had a commander-in-chief who was rational and comfortable with the use of force."
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Yeah, Clinton ignored the Constitution, too.
1 up, 23h,
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Every president since Nixon, whether Democrat or Republican, has dismissed the War Powers Resolution as unconstitutional. In 1999, President Clinton undertook military action to stop the mass murders of Serbian dictator Slobodan Milošević. In 2011, President Obama deployed the military to take out Libyan autocrat Muammar Gaddafi.

In both cases, members of Congress sued, claiming violations of the War Powers Resolution. In both cases, they lost. Now, having learned nothing, members of Congress are threatening to do the same thing to President Trump.
0 ups, 14h,
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I get that every president in my lifetime is a war criminal and violates the Constitution. I was hoping one might follow the Constitution just once.
1 up, 13h,
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Please entertain the fact that you misunderstand the constitution. The constitution makes the president the commander-in-chief of the military.
0 ups, 13h,
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"The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

I don't misunderstand those words in the slightest.
1 up, 12h
What exactly are you quoting here.

Let me quote this:
“ Provides that in the absence of a declaration of war by the Congress, in any case in which the Armed Forces of the United States are introduced in hostilities, or in situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, such use of the Armed Forces of the United States in hostilities pursuant to this Act shall be reported within 48 hours in writing by the President to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate, together with a full account of the circumstances under which such hostilities were initiated, the estimated scope and duration of such hostilities, and the constitutional and legislative authority under which the introduction of hostilities took place.”

Source: (aka The War Powers Resilution)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/93rd-congress/house-joint-resolution/542

See also: The United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2.1

The constitution gives the authority to the president to command the armed forces. The constitution gives the authority to the legislature to declare war. Any discrepancies between the two have not been adjudicated by the Supreme Court, the third branch of the government.

Historical precedent is that the Commander in Chief has ordered the military to take actions without a declaration of war. One of these was FDR sending the Navy to fight the Nazis by defending merchant marine convoys to England before war was declared against Germany.
0 ups, 10h
I repeat- please entertain the fact that you misunderstand the constitution. You have just quoted the War Powers Resolution, not the Constitution.

Feel free to read it. All of it.
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript

Parts relevant to this thread:
Article I. The Legislative Branch
Article II. The Presidency

Of course, understanding how it’s been interpreted through the courts is another ball of wax. And that’s what really counts.
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Since many of my Democrat colleagues don’t seem to understand the War Powers Act, it’s very simple:

The President must notify Congress within 48 hours of deploying troops or commencing an attack.
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Section 1541(c) of the War Powers Resolution states clearly:

"The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."
1 up, 18h,
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0 ups, 14h,
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Obama is a war criminal who crapped all over the Constitution.
2 ups, 13h,
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Obama crapped all over the constitution period.
1 up, 10h
FACT
1 up, 14h,
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83 years or 84 years??? Which is it?
Get the facts (and the movie quote) straight!

And who was war declared against?
0 ups, 14h,
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The movie quote is 84 years. The facts in the meme are accurate; it's been 83 years since the war was formally declared.
1 up, 13h,
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The title says 84 years…the meme movie reference says 83 years.

Once again… Who was war last formally declared by Congress against? And how many years ago?

Are you referencing Japan, Germany and Italy (WWII) in 1941?
0 ups, 13h,
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The title says "84 Years" because that is the default title for the meme format, the quote in the movie the meme is taken from, and I didn't change it.

It's been 83 years since the US declared war. The declaration was against Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania.

All of this info is easily found through a quick internet search, but I'm glad I could help.
1 up, 12h,
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You do know you can change the title?

The last formal declaration of war was against Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania, in conjunction with the war against Japan, Germany and Italy. Correct.
But the year was 1942, 84 years ago.

I’m glad I could help.
0 ups, 8h,
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It's not June yet.

Glad I could help.
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