if u want presents just say so gng

as an agonistic, it ain't that deep bro :/

It is tho if u would just see

and besides, Jesus lovese us for who we are, so he fully supports atheists as well.

No.... Just no lol. That's so factually incorrect ion even wanna argue cro 🥀 ✌️

*loves*

Bro that’s the most circular inside out upside down 4D argument I’ve ever heard

bro just google it. even ai is smarter.

u can celebrate the cultural aspects, not the religion itself

They have brain waves, a heartbeat, and can feel pain... wdym they dont have feelings

wait gng u r actually right I'm sry

Are you just trying not to argue lol

but anyways, women getting raped is a worser thing

Well no nah
Rape doesnt kill people (usually)
But a person being killed is way worse

killing people is bad, but its just a non-fully developed "baby"

A person isnt fully developed until they're like 25 bro
Why does stage of development matter

I didn't???

So I’m saying, why does it matter ignorance the baby isn’t fully developed yet

I'm talking abt "developed babies"

Then whyd you say the opposite earlier vro

not fully developed adults

lets not talk abt developed babies. even if its just a baby w feelings, the raped person has feelings too. and opinions. so they have all rights to take abortion if they don't want children. imagine if it was a minor getting raped??? ofc they would take abortion

But why should the baby suffer and die for something he had nothing to do with

do u have a brain. it is just a baby.

Would you kill a 1 year old if the parent didn’t want it

its a baby. not a 1 yr old

Why does age matter then

nah just realized I was wrong

Im sus about you bro

We celebrate jolly fat man Christmas and bnnuy Easter
Let us have our own versions of those holidays

ykw I'm leaving this

Bye bye

i know christmas and easter are technically religious but i dont treat them that way
its just chocolate egg day and present under tree day

How sad

fym sad
on both those days i spend it with family and we all have a grand ol' time
who cares about religion
thats so 14th century

Heaven did not dissapear in the 15th century I promise 😂

im saying being a theist (not atheist) went out of style in the 1300s

That's just factually wrong, bro

Why does he believe in Michael Jackson but not Jesus gng

Idk vro

lmao
i dont not believe in jebus
i jsut dont think he was the son of god or sum shit

But his miracles are in the most historically proven books in the world

plus, historians debate on whether sun tzu was even a real person.

Oh I didn’t know that
Well you can take any old author and imply him instead

okay, sure.
even if the copies are the original, how do we know they arent just ancient stories written to keep children in check or something? humans have always told stories. how do we know that they werent just a product of one's imagination?

For one, we found loads of historical proof that supports the Bible. We’re finding more even right now
For example, finding a 2,000 year old bone box that says “James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus” that kinda leaves no room for excuse
And since we know Jesus was at least a real person, he fulfilled prophecies written about him hundreds or thousands of years ago. Everything written in Isaiah, Genesis, etc was fulfilled

do you really think that a story from thousands of years ago didnt change over time?

Nope
First of all, the ancient Dead Sea Scrolls we found lined up perfectly with modern versions of the bible
And second, translators always translate the bible straight from the oldest versions they have, not the newest

The History of the Peloponnesian War, Art of War by Sun Tzu... those are over a thousand years old. Some are 2,000. Those are proven to be true...

yup
it is
im just tryna say
what good has religion done to society

God holds back sin in this world, it would be so much worse here if not. If God didn't exist there would be more murder, more wars, more abortion, more gay people, more pedophiles, and more stealing.

There are millions of people who would say Christianity changed their life for the better, including me. Jesus is the most historically real person we know.

anyways, ik that I would leave this drama, but srsly... being gay, or just lgbt isn't a choice. u NOT only call an identity people cannot control "terrible" but no abortion? not all women want pregnancy. like me. abortion is just choosing not to have a child. oh yeah, there were 121-123 religious wars. no p3dos? there's a significant amount of kids sa'd in churches. as an omnisexual who doesn't want children, and was gr00med bfre, I'm clearly disgusted...

but for the 2nd paragraph I wont deny, there is evidence that Jesus was real, and a religion can change someones life.

okay.
first paragraph? entirely wrong.
second paragraph, i wont deny. Christianity and other religions may have done one good thing. give peope a sense of morals and help suppress a fear of death.
back to the first paragraph. we have no factually, scientifically proven evidence that there is a god, meaning if they existed, we dont even know if they held back what you classify as "sin". More muder and wars without a god? see the wikipedia page for "list of religious wars". without religion, many of those wars would never have happen. More abortion and gay people? You're saying thats a bad thing, which is just bigotry at its finest, and i am disgusted by you. You say abortion is bad, but what if someone was raped and didnt want the child? You're saying they should have to carry the baby? and gay people? that isnt changable. gay people come from all different households. my gay brother was confused as to why he only felt attraction to men as he didnt kniw what a gay person was, so he looked it up. being gay isnt a choice. more pedophiles and stealing? again, you're assuming that there is a god. plus, havent you heard of all the pedophile priests?
all in all, i will not deny that believing in a god may be good for some, but it does not mean that if there isnt one that all this bad stuff will happen.

Can I ask you something? Is murder wrong to do?

depends.
someone like hitler? perfectly justified.
innocent rando? should be punished by death.

hanger?

rape babies don't have feelings gng </3

I'm talking about murder

When you kill someone and go to prison for it

not justified

Not all women want to be pregnant? Cool, then don't have sex. Easy

And for those that got r@ped, it's sad, but it doesn't justified ending somebody else's life. It's not the babys fault and it doesn't deserve death for something it didn't do.

And we also must remember that God purposely brings people into the world through r@pe, it's all a part of his plan.

And pedos and molesters in churches? Simple, they were never Christians. Sad for them

okay, but babies are simply tumours until they are born. parasites.
they arent a seperate creature until they are actually born.
they have no conciousness and are not sapient. its akin to killing a fly.