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Honest Abe, Republican

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Republican Abe Lincoln thought black people were inferior to white people
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Yes President Lincoln was a great man. Most historians regard him as a genius. Like President Trump, he tended to be right about everything. Soon the Image of Trump will join old Abe's on MT.RUSHMORE, your leftist tears will fall like rain soaking the land, and there will be much rejoicing 👏😀
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Fourth Debate with Stephen Douglas, Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858

Mr. Lincoln took the stand at a quarter before three, and was greeted with vociferous and protracted applause; after which, he said:

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN: It will be very difficult for an audience so large as this to hear distinctly what a speaker says, and consequently it is important that as profound silence be preserved as possible.
While I was at the hotel to-day, an elderly gentleman called upon me to know whether I was really in favor of producing a perfect equality between the negroes and white people. [Great Laughter.] While I had not proposed to myself on this occasion to say much on that subject, yet as the question was asked me I thought I would occupy perhaps five minutes in saying something in regard to it. I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause]-that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
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Of course there was more to it...

I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied every thing. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. [Cheers and laughter.] My understanding is that I can just let her alone. I am now in my fiftieth year, and I certainly never have had a black woman for either a slave or a wife. So it seems to me quite possible for us to get along without making either slaves or wives of negroes. I will add to this that I have never seen, to my knowledge, a man, woman or child who was in favor of producing a perfect equality, social and political, between negroes and white men. I recollect of but one distinguished instance that I ever heard of so frequently as to be entirely satisfied of its correctness-and that is the case of Judge Douglas's old friend Col. Richard M. Johnson. [Laughter.] I will also add to the remarks I have made (for I am not going to enter at large upon this subject,) that I have never had the least apprehension that I or my friends would marry negroes if there was no law to keep them from it, [laughter] but as Judge Douglas and his friends seem to be in great apprehension that they might, if there were no law to keep them from it, [roars of laughter] I give him the most solemn pledge that I will to the very last stand by the law of this State, which forbids the marrying of white people with negroes. [Continued laughter and applause.] I will add one further word, which is this: that I do not understand that there is any place where an alteration of the social and political relations of the negro and the white man can be made except in the State Legislature-not in the Congress of the United States-and as I do not really apprehend the approach of any such thing myself, and as Judge Douglas seems to be in constant horror that some such danger is rapidly approaching, I propose as the best means to prevent it that the Judge be kept at home and placed in the State Legislature to fight the measure. [Uproarious laughter and applause.] I do not propose dwelling longer at this time on this subject.
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Not to mention had no intention to free the slaves, been only did so later to wreck the economy of the South in order to keep them tethered to the North lest they try to secede again.
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I suspect that Czechy & Modda are actually the same guy, so going forward I'll only respond to one. Newer users may not be aware that there's really only about 5 leftys on Im PoliticsToo- each with a dozen alts - Kinda like their fake electorate in general...
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In case you haven't noticed since the day you joined with your original account, I won't say anything confrontational to you. That's why I rarely post on your memes, I don't want that to be misunderstood as attacking.

The closest would be to the meme I posted above, but that was to him in case he wanted to utilize it in the future should the topic come up again. Both those images were uploaded by the same user, and I often use them one after the other in discussions.

As my account dates to 2016, I'm hardly new here. I may venture into PoliToo on occasion. I'm pretty much aware of all the players there. The only alt on it that I'm aware of there is of Buck_Fou_Yiden's. See if you can guess which one it is. Obviously the ideological slant is completely opposite, but the tagline is a giveaway, if the mood wasn't sufficient enough. Hasn't seemed to have commented much lately, unless I missed it, but it's one of that stream's mods.
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Because context matters...

"Lincoln needed to write this letter because as a war-time president, two months before the mid-term election, he could not ignore an article in one of the most popular newspapers, written by a very popular and influential member of his own party, demanding dramatic changes in government policy. Citizens needed to know for whom they are voting; soldiers needed to know what they are fighting for.

Lincoln was preparing a preliminary emancipation proclamation at this time, but I don’t think this influenced his answer. He just reiterated his well-known position that despite his personal desire "that all men every where could be free," his actions as the President are regulated and limited by Constitution.

I don’t think Lincoln was happy at having to answer Greeley’s "Prayer of Twenty Millions"; he had already commented on Greeley’s previous demands "What in the world is the matter with Uncle Horace? Why can't he restrain himself and wait a little while?" But Lincoln did his best in this situation. He needed to reassure slave-holding states in the Union that he will not free slaves just for sake of freeing slaves, but only if it necessary to defeat rebellion. He needed to reassure soldiers that he would do whatever necessary to win the war. He needed to reassure anti-slavery people that he will continue fight slavery in a legal way, no matter when and how the war ended, but this is the separate struggle: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union... my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free."

I think Greeley's final assessment reflects the fact that Lincoln managed not to make any promises and escaped the trap Greeley set for him."
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