Glutton for punishment

Separating hatred of others from Islam is impossible, it is literarily one of their requirements. All the spin, all the lies that all religions are violent, all of the debunked leftist talking points, none of it changes the truth. Try and find a single mainstream Muslims group that condemns jihad in the name of islam as a failed sixth century requirement with no place in the modern world.

FAFO works just like karma

Yup

Cowards often try to appease their oppressors. You also find that with abuse victims, maybe the root cause of democrat insanity is abusive parents. It could also explain why they hate traditional functional families.

Ironic, as Far Righties tend to come from broken homes, single mothers, abuse, a lack of viable options for the future, sexual confusion and frustration,,,

They didn't become so angry because they woke up one day and thought it was a nifty habit to pick up.

Interestingly, the online activity and belongings of slain ISIS fighters indicate much of the same type of background.

I guess I have never met anyone on the far right then.

Lucky you.

Make up some more fake problems, I do enjoy them.

Except...they don't hate traditional families 😂😂

You said the same thing a week or two ago and I provided a list of mainstream Muslim groups that condemn violence and terrorism

In case you "missed" it

Those are terror supporting groups on federal watch lists, and not mainstream. You are also stupidly falling for and supporting the Islamic practice of lying to your enemies. Educate yourself before you post.

All of those groups are on federal watchlists? 😂😂

Look up "poisoning the well" because that is what you are doing. You are saying that their religion allows lying, which means you will dismiss anything they say without even showing that it actually is a lie.

I actually do dismiss anything you post, usually without even reading it. Your track record of being on the side of evil and being wrong about everything is amazing.

Taqiyya is an islamic requirement. Look hard and people like yourself will easily find the lies claiming the process of lying doesn't actually happen, it's all a lie.

Your problem is you only accept sources you already agree with where I seek evidence. I have lived with, fought alongside of, hunted and protected Muslims, I have yet to ever meet one I would trust. They are not all my enemies, but none are my friends and never will be.

I am not going to waste time with you on this subject, you have zero possibility of defending the evil known as islam.

Pretty weird that you say I'm always wrong but you don't read my posts. If you don't read them, you don't know if they're wrong.

I'm sorry your hatred and fear has made you incapable of being friends with people who are different.

For some strange reason, invaded people aren't always as upfront and honest to their invaders as their invaders would want them to be. Science is at a loss for an explanation.

This meme trying to be racist

An evil ideology has nothing to do with race.

How is being Muslim an evil ideology?

Any "religion" that says it's ok to kill unbelievers, marry children, or keep slaves, is evil. When it vows to dominate the world and establish a theocracy, it's an ideology.

To be fair, the Old Testament says all of that too

The OT mentions slavery, but that's only because in those days and in those societies it was an accepted norm. But nowhere does it say that it was right or good. It said if you had a slave (or more accurately an indentured servant) it said you should pay them well and treat them fairly. Keep in mind that in those times if you were poor and needed work, you most likely worked as a servant on a rich man's farm.

It says nothing about killing unbelievers, or marrying children. You should actually read it.

It says you are allowed to own slaves and even beat them as long as they don't die right away. It never prohibit slavery, which God should have done from the very beginning. There are also passages in Deuteronomy about killing people if they worship another God, and the passage in Numbers where Moses tells Israelite soldiers to kill everybody in a city except keep the little girls for themselves.

I have read it

You're right. I stand corrected. Yes, men did evil things back in those days. Doesn't mean they were right. And yes, God did take people out and order it for different reasons. He is righteous and sovereign. He sent us Jesus, so that we would not continue in those evil things. Islam, on the other hand, still encourages those things and advances their religion through mass immigration and violence.

How do you know he sent us Jesus?

If god is all powerful and all good and can send us Jesus why does he have Hurricanes that kill thousands? What’s cancer for? Why is the universe so hostile? Why do children die to rape? Why can drugs be allowed to exist? Why?

This means god might not be all good which means he’s not all good meaning he’s not all loving or he’d be all good

If god can’t do these things like stop tectonic plates then he’s not all powerful. But if he was able to create it he can’t be all good then. Because if he’s powerful enough to create everything but choices to do nothing he’s not all good

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

no loving god would create a system where finite sin was condemned to infinite punishment.

Those are alot of questions only Jesus can fully answer. You should be asking him. All those answers are in the Bible, too. Im not going to answer them for you. You've got to seek the truth for yourself. If you really want it.

Seek, and you shall find.-Mat.7:7

I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through Me- Jn.14:6

Well, again, thats a lot of questions. First off, God did create the world and humans perfect. Without disease and cancer. But in this perfect world, he gave humans a free will. The fist human, Adam, didn't even know what evil was untill it was presented to him. Unfortunately, he chose evil instead of good, and thats when sin entered the world. We live in a fallen world full of sickness and disease because of that. Sure, God could take it all away, but he would have to take away our free will. He wants his creation to be able to love him back, but to do that we have to have the choice to be able to do that. Or to hate him. Without freewill, there would be no choice, and we'd all be robots doing whatever he wants. So, for example, Jesus tells us to "love one another". We'll, if the whole world would seriously do that, we would eliminate half of the evil things in the world. There'd be no starving kids, heck, I believe we already know the cures for cancer, so there'd be no kids dying of cancer. But because of our fallen nature and our selfishness, we'd rather get rich and start wars and not care for one another. So that's a start for you.

One more thing I like to say, is that God is eternal. No beginning, no end. That's hard for our finite human minds to grasp. He exists outside of our concept of space and time. If we could fully comprehend him, he wouldn't be God. So to say that God is evil or wrong to do whatever he wants with his own creation, is just naive. But he met us on our own level when he came down as Jesus. Not only did he give us an example of how to live a perfect life, he fixed our problem by taking our sins away and giving us eternal life. He offers us this free gift. But, just as if I were to give you something, you wouldn't have it until you actually reached out and grabbed ahold of it. So believe that He is and grab onto Him. And that's the first step to understanding Him.

That is a deflection don’t answer with bible verses answer with your hesrt

Ok but here’s the thing Adam and Eve weren’t first in the sense we know science disproves this because of evolution theory unless you would deny evolution.

So if god created everything on certain days why would he create cancer? Because if he created everything he created cancer but if Adam and Eve never existed which can be proven to the extent why would he do that?

Also taking away cancer and illness doesn’t go against free will. No human would argue about taking away cancer atleast no good one. Plus sickness isn’t a choice, so why not take it away?

God created good and evil. As in, "the tree of good and evil". Man was never meant to know evil. But man chose it, and sin in humans resulted from it.

Evolution and the age of the earth both require HUGE assumptions. There is evidence and good arguments for both viewpoints. It's just the ones that are against God are the ones that get the funding in schools and laboratories. One reason for this is because the "lord of this world is Satan, and he doesn't want anyone to believe in God. Or him, for that matter. The other reason, which i believe is more on point, is that God allows both views to be strong to see who we are going to believe, man's or God's. The big bang or creation. Again it all comes down to choice. Are you going to believe in the finite intelligence of man, or the infinite wisdom of God's Word?

Another thing I'll bring up is, we now know from science that there is information coded in our DNA. And we know that information only comes from an intelligent mind. So the atheist is left with only two choices for the origin of this: it was either the result of an intelligent God, or the result of some alien intelligence. Even Richard Dawkins, one of the most famous atheists, acknowledges this, of course he leans towards aliens.😄

Huge? I’m sorry but if you can’t agree that stars burn in the sky and want to argue that oh it’s God or something you’ve fallen down a rabbit hole. Science is science. If all humans died science would make its way back. If we met Aliens we’d communicate through them through science and math. Again I’m not against God or anything just very weary… of his existence.

Ok my rebuttal or question 1. Wouldn’t it be easier for god to come down to earth or open up the sky and be like “hi guys” then everyone would believe he’d have so many followers so much love so much everything why can’t he do that?

Information that is coded in our dna comes from millions of years of evolution like fight or flight. So I would argue you are wrong.

What about Aliens ? If there are aliens do they have a squid Jesus or something? Did god send him there?

Why do you take accounts of a book from thousands of years ago that got plenty of things wrong? Science wrong, life spans wrong lots wrong. A book that you have no proof other then the belief of yourself is true.

My last too sorry for the yap

What if there is a god but not a Christian god and you are brought to them. What would you feel ?

Finally if you die and reach the end of your life and get to place no like heaven or hell but a rebirth would you still believe

Thank you.

Evolution is a lie.
The story of Adam and Eve's does not contradict science. Actually science proves that even in Evolutionary theory the human race is traced back to two "common ancestors", a male and a female.
And God didn't create cancer. It came about as a result of the fall of Adam. All sickness and disease is a result of sin. The wages of sin is death. God did not create sin, but he made it possible by creating man with a free will. Man chose sin, and made it actual.

But god had to create sin in that sense of the video. Why should millions of children be punished for the actions of one man.

How is evolution fake when it’s been proven we’ve evolved from apes…

Do you really believe that the earth was created in what a couple days? Are you telling me science that tells us the universe is around 13.4 billion years old is wrong?

Science isn't something to be "believed" in. It's a method. And it does not conflict with the Bible. The only thing that conflicts with the Bible is scientist's interpretation of the evidence.

Scientist interpretation of evidence ? You mean the answers? Are you saying Newton is wrong? Pythagoras is wrong? Einstein was wrong? All of them? Really?

Science is evidence and study, the scientific method is a method.

So you’d rather believe something that says that everything was created in a few days over science. But wait why can we observe universes forming now form earth and they don’t form in days

Yes I have considered there not being a God. But I see creation all around me as evidence of a creator. Its almost like trying to consider yourself never having been.

How do I know there's a God? I call it spiritual revelation. Other than that, after I accepted him into my life, (you have to ask him in, he doesn't barge his way into anyone's life. Our free will thing again), I started to see him working in my life. I started reading His word and for once started understanding it. (Because of the help of the Holy Spirit dwelling within me).
Its like a veil fell off my eyes and I could see things more clearly. I could see the evil in the world more clearly, and the distinction between the two. As I stated getting involved in a church and doing outreaches, I saw people miraculously healed, and saw the change first hand in people who were getting saved. I've seen prayers answered. I'm a walking miracle myself. I lived through an auto accident I should never have lived through. I've seen too many things to ever doubt there's a God. But I can't prove it to anybody. All I can do is point the way. And pray that the Holy Spirit draws them to the Savior.

Are you believer of science? If you you would understand the Bible’s inconsistency with science like the earth being created and what not.

If so you’d understand if all humans died and life finally revolved millions of years from now to a new era of humans science would still give the same answers that could be converted but religion would be so so so different.

So what is your claim about science and its conflict with the Bible? Because if the book can get so so so many things wrong how can it get the biggest vague thing right the idea of a god? That’s what perplexes me with every religion

Watch this video short, and then I will answer your questions one by one from my heart the best I can. Deal?

https://youtu.be/Rfd_1UAjeIA?si=YLsheMJm4A7znSMf

Watched the video. That is a compelling video, for those who seek answers like those.

I still don’t see how can be good. If God can in the sense create human life down to the very cells we makeup. Why would he have created cancer in children? If god cannot control this then he’s not all powerful in a logical sense.

If can however stop cancer or AIDS since its in his wheelhouse of being powerful. He then chooses not to, meaning god is not all because he decides to not change this or fix it.

So either god is both not all powerful or all good. I’m not sure which but I don’t believe in the Christian God.

So let me ask you this, discarding the video of god is all powerful logically and good in the idea he wants us to live why can he not take away cancer in kids? I don’t think any human would object to it and it doesn’t take away our freedoms. So why? Why would I label him god?

Finally, how do you know gods real? What proof can you have. The Bible is an account or a book which may very very very well be fabricated you’ve never met Jesus or god (unless you have) So what proof do you have that the Christian god exists

Also have you ever considered the fact of no God? No jesus, or maybe no “son of god” in the sense. Have you ever questioned the greatest question ever

Newton was a Christian, btw.

Maybe if there was an in person conversation who knows

Just remember be open minded we don’t have all the answers

The new mayor isn’t trying to push his religion on anyone he’s trying to help New Yorkers

The Islamic state doesn't see ith that way...

The islamic state recognizes their own. If mandami wasn't radicalized, they would never have supported his campaign. Their political cover groups like cair went all in for him.

No burnt finger no 9/11 was because of radical Muslims very very very evil Muslims that represent little to none of modern Muslims

Its like saying all Christians are bad because Nazis killed Jews and Nazis were Christian’s

I believe 911 was an inside job, but still many Muslims applauded and rejoiced over it.

To say Nazis were Chrstians is ludicrous. Just because someone says they are Christian, doesn't mean they truly are. And of course not all Muslims are bad. The problem is, the more zealous they are of adhering to their prophets teachings, the more radical they will be...

The pedophile mohammed, piss be upon him also raped little boys, girls had homosexuals murdered and commended all his followers to do the same. Since modern muslims in all sects consider him to be the perfect man, none of them can condemn his insanity.

We know the truth. Sometimes it seems pointless arguing with those who don't see it. And honestly, without Jesus and the Holy Spirit, they can't. If they're not willing to consider or accept Him, then they will continue to walk in darkness. You can't get mad at a blind man for being blind...

Fair enough but I think most know it in their guts they are on the wrong side and are happy right where they are.

I agree.

You were also right on the small percentage that has a veil over their eyes, they are truly blinded by the evil they wrap themselves in. I see both sides active here in imgflip, we have trolls and their alts, the high and mighty true believers of the left and their socialist god, and the actual haters of everything good in this world.

I respond to trolls on occasion and ignore the others, the casting perils to swine rule still applies. One thing I always laugh at is I do not read their mems or even know which ones make them; they are not worthy of that much of my time. I also limit my responses to them to my own memes when possible. They will just use outdates and debunked talking points anyway.

I see responses as a way to inform others; I do not expect the trolls to ever actual learn.

The problem is, how do you prove your right?

I can't. Only God can. And He will...if you let Him. Only you have to come to Him on His terms, not your own.

I am a Christian, the problem is when people say that they can prove they are a Christian because of the Holy Spirit

Chezy this is a quote I made up about this scenario

“If you go to church and be a good person just cause you’re afraid of a potential eternal torture you aren’t a good person, you’re just saving yourself”

My favorite two quotes

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Edward Gibbon

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

How do you know it to be tru3? How do you know the Bible is real? Science disproves much of the Bible

You’ve never me him or Jesus so how would know?

It doesn't matter what you or I believe to be true 1.5 billion potential terrorists believe it. A few simple clicks would teach you the truth about muslim assimilation in western countries, but why would you bother with rape gangs, the murder of homosexuals or any of the other examples you would find. Live in your ignorance if you think that will impress them.

I’m not saying I approve of any of those actions religion set aside it’s wrong. There are plenty of instances where many religions did horrible things Christianity included. There’s also times where they did amazing things like Muslims and the work of math AMAZING! Christians and the Issac newton

What I’m saying is you can’t use rhetoric and generalize every religion or every group and say they’re terrorist or bombers or whatever because that’s not how it works

You just did generalize, you tried to equate islam and Christianly on levels of violence. Islam has never had a peaceful era, never, Christianity changed and any acts of violence committed under its name is quickly disowned. Muslims otoh are quick to pretend they don't support the violence in the name of islam in English and quickly laugh about it in their own languages. The proof is everywhere, anyone that doesn't see islams true self is deliberately ignorant.

When have you seen this?

Yes I did generalize to show the stupidity of your generalization. Christian’s never have had a peaceful era. Russia???

Like man don’t generalize anyone especially not a religion.

Of course Islam had a peaceful era. History did not begin with WWII. You forget that until Truman put a stop to it, things you're accusing Islam of wasn't exactly unknown practice for Christians, particularly in Europe and America. Tens of millions were killed because of it. That wasn't an accident. That wasn't a wrong turn on the highway. I'm talking World War II here but it happened before that as well.

During World War II, Nazi recruited Muslims in a mosque in Munich in order to seed dissent amongst Muslims in Soviet territory for use as proxies against the Russians. That's how this radicalization began. When the Germans lost the war, the US in the UK picked up where they left off in order to utilize Muslims as proxies against the spread of Soviet influence as well as Nasserism - the move for a pan-Arabic state.
Muslim brotherhood, Wahhabism - these are all funded and pushed by the US in order to promote nationalism and Islamic fervor.

Ronald Reagan basically started what became al Qaeda, employing none other than Osama bin Laden to do so. As a as a counter against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, he supplied billions of funding and CIA training. Look at pictures of Afghanistan in the 1970s before the Russians invaded.

Yes Virginia, they was a world before World War II.

An inside job how?

You realize if Jesus came to America know and was preaching he’d most likely be deported for not being here legally

Really? Do you know how to do your own research?

And you obviously don't know Jesus or His word. I would suggest you do that. For we are not promised tomorrow, and when we step into eternity, that's the only thing that will matter

What will matter? Death?

Now here’s the funny thing about death. You finally get the question that everyone desperately wants the answer to “is there a god” is “heaven real” and when we die we will get that answer but can’t share it with anyone

Have you ever researched NDE's? Near death experiences. Many people have had them and tell their stories. I believe there's something to them. I even know a few people that have had them.

I only use those examples for the religious or atheist extremist trying to tell them they have no answer to the question. Who knows we could all be simulated for all they know.

If I had some high undeniable physical proof I’d believe it

I have researched them, I’m an agnostic and what’s always fascinated me was NDES and Reincarnation stories. I think there could be sometime to them too.

Now wether it’s Saint Peter at the gates of heaven is a different story but definitely something going on that we don’t understand yet

I've also considered the reincarnation stories. Usually children who recall past lives, and then the memories fade as they grow older. There is definitely more to it than can be easily dismissed. I'm not going to put God in a box and say He'll never send someone back to live another life.

Stupid comment award, with 1.5 billion pedophile worshipers if only 1% are radicalized the numbers should concern every human on the planet. The actual numbers are much higher of course but you will never admit it so here is a test: Find an islamic country without an active jihad group or not supporting one.

Nazis? Christians have been killing Jews for two millennia.
And when Nazis invaded other countries in Europe, most of the people in those countries were very eager to turn over any Jewish or Gypsy, etc, neighbors to them. It's actually far to name the countries where people didn't go along than it is to say those which did.

That is what you are going with a moral equivalence fallacy? Wow! Ok, keep apologizing for the pedophile worshipers currently the most organized violent group of killers on the planet, why not, you obviously see their enemies as your own.

Islam has to date killed 31.94 Christian’s

But this is NOTHING to the amount of lives Christians have taken from Muslims

177.94 MILLION over 5x as much that’s sickening. That’s just religion to religion we ain’t counting crimes, Nazis, Russia ect ext

Jews have been targets since the dawn of there religion and before that it was Muslims look at the comment I just made to Burnt finger and see thatncount

Jews came before Muslims.

From the very beginning they attacked Christians and other people, including the invasion of Iran, nearly wiping out Zoroastrianism. By deadly force.