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Can you explain how this is happening?

Israel is getting the US to send them tons of money for missiles and bombs. Americans are losing food and healthcare, Palestinians are being RIPd with the money we send to Israel in the form of weapons. That is how this is happening.

The US sends Israel a very insignificant amount of money in support of their defence, and it has nothing to do with American healthcare, which should be cut.

$3.8 billion every year doesn't seem very insignificant to me

Believe me it is.

That's actually statistically wildly inaccurate. The number one receiver only in recent years was Ukraine - to help them avoid being the victims of genocide. Other than that, the $3.8 billion per year is more than twice what any other nation gets regularly including ukraine historically.

I'd like to just "Believe you" but what you're saying flies directly in the face of both math and reason. If you want me to "believe you" then you need to make some sense.

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/us-foreign-aid-recipients-2024-db4dec
https://usafacts.org/answers/how-much-foreign-aid-does-the-us-provide/countries/israel/

It still is a largely insignificant amount. Medicare and medicaid make up more than 300x that amount. Its a lot of money for you and me, but not for a country. In addition to that, you seem okay with giving Ukraine money to avoid genocide, so why not Israel?

First, the money we spend on medicare and medicaid is because we DON'T socialize them. The capitalists driving those costs up are precisely WHY they cost that much...fyi.

In addition, Israel isn't being genocided. Thanks for asking.

Its becasue of government subsidization that healthcare is so expensive, you can charge whatever want, its the government paying for it! Thankfully no. Im not a fan of genocide, personally.

That's actually great because, with the ACA PTC's, the average percentage costs of household income were at record lows.

https://www.kff.org/affordable-care-act/premium-payments-if-enhanced-premium-tax-credits-expire/

https://www.ajmc.com/view/aca-impact-on-medicare-beneficiaries-linked-to-reduced-costs-improved-health

https://www.nber.org/brd/20242/medicare-vs-medicaid-cost-and-health-outcomes

So you are wrong in every conceivable way about the healthcare subsidies.

Also, intent is not a requirement for genocide specifically. It is the ACT of genocidal behavior that qualifies. You need a new argument there.

You seem to be unaware of what subsidization means. It doesent mean the healthcare costs less, it mean the government pays more. ACA helped Americans get cheaper healthcare by shifting the cost from the individual, to the taxpayers. Between 2018, and 2023 healthcare costs per person, has risen 27%. Not what the individual is paying, but what total is being paid by the government.

Find me an example of an Israeli act of genocide.

Ah so you are upset that our tax dollars are going to help people get healthcare and not more bombs. Got it. I disagree. I think healthcare is more important than bombs with my tax dollars.

As for Israel, the board for human rights internationally has found them to be guilty of 4/5 of the qualifications. They are all considered "genocidal acts" internationally: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/09/israel-has-committed-genocide-gaza-strip-un-commission-finds

Thanks for asking. Again, I know you're not going to read it but those who want to educate themselves will. I'll wait for you to now rally against the INTERNATIONAL AGREED groups that have established this next.

No im not. You suggested we spend more on military than healthcare. That is wrong.

I said find me an act of genocide. I want to see what you think genocide is. And I have been reading your sources.

You clearly don't read the sources. I gave you one showing the cost of healthcare and another showing the cost of military. Military is bigger. This is a fact shown with the sources.

I also gave you a site that specifically calls out four very specific actions that Israel has done that are genocidal. I specifically mentioned this to you. I gave you the source for it and told you I agree and most international people do. You insist that you were not given an action. I gave you 4. I am in alignment with those definitions and the bulk of the planet in agreement on that. You claim still you weren't given my personal values.

The only two outcomes now are that you did read the articles and you're intentionally being dishonest (probable) or you didn't and just are sticking with your talking points because you have nothing better (even more probable). Either way I don't care because I'm any conceivable case here you are being dishonest and disingenuous and everyone who can read this will see it only be reading this comment. Sad.

Oh I read it there just wasn't anything in there that was genocide. Please provide another source.

Im sorry I cant find where you provided a source about military spending, can you post it again?

That is patently false because when the government subsidizes healthcare they also set caps to certain things. This is handedly given a modern example in Newsom creating $11 Insulin in CA. The government subsidizes it, sets a profit margin cap that still allows people to make money from it, and regulates the production so that everyone can get it at an affordable rate. The consequence is that you now have $11 insulin in a nation where the average vial is north of $80 per vial.

You are demonstrably wrong in real time about how healthcare costs are brought down but I'm glad that you aren't a fan of genocide. If you aren't, you should be condemning it happening to Palestine then.

The average cost of healthcare per person has increase 7x since government subsidization.

Oh no, not the imaginary genocide in Palestine.

The reason for the healthcare increases was the lack of subsidization that the GOP struck from the bills the second they had a chance, actually.

Also, please validate your claim that the genocide in Palestine is "imaginary" with an independent and reliable source. I would hate to make that accusation if it's not true. I trust that anyone with integrity who is being honest would be able to provide this.

There wasnt meaningful subsidization before, and healthcare was cheap, now its subsidized and it is expensive. Why?

There have been 0 examples of genocidal intent by Israel. That is my argument. We can discuss this further or we can continue our other conversation.

Also it's not all about money, it's about focus on who to help - that's the core plot of the meme. It doesn't seem like you understood that based on your commentary

What, that the government helps its allies? The American people are the main focus of the government.

Then why do we have record levels of homelessness and hunger in the USA? That doesn't seem like the government is focusing on the American people very well to me.

What would you recommend the government do? 1. Clean up the streets and put mentally ill people and criminals in confinement. 2. Give them money. This is mostly a state government issue, not a federal one. Poverty is mostly a choice in America.

First and foremost, the idea that people are "cleaning up the streets" by institutionalizing people against their will due to how much paper they have is ethically deplorable. Also criminals should be offered paths to rehabilitation so that they can rejoin society as a healthy member with newly developed social skills rather than just left to their own devices, IMHO.

Secondly, just giving people money doesn't solve the problem of being hungry and homeless for the exact stereotypical reasons you presume. Instead, we should be making it so that the basic needs of living in the USA are not capitalized but are socialized. This doesn't presume ALL things are socialized (though I would support that if a reliable form of that were to emerge). It means that a certain level of food and shelter and all things humans need to survive should be available for free to everyone. This way we reduce the incentive for crime to survive or doing drugs to numb out reality. It doesn't SOLVE those issues entirely of course, that would be absurd to believe, but it does assist with them tangentially as well.

Considering the volume of money to accomplish both of those goals is less than what the US government just approved yearly for ICE, Detention centers, and border facilities - I think it's probably quite capable of financing. In fact, one of the best things Trump has done was to prove we had this money the whole time but that the government refuses to use it properly to help people. That said, now that we KNOW from Trump exposing it that the money isn't an issue - it doesn't make any sense to keep paying for bombs and weapons to harm people when we could be using less money than that to fix homelessness with rent subsidies and cure hunger in the USA, both of which can factually be done with less money than they included in the Trump Tax bill for ICE, border patrol, and detention facilities. This is a mathematical certainty, and I would be absolutely DELIGHTED if you asked me for sources on that.

What are you talking about? It would cost around 2-5 trillion dollars to feed and house everyone in the US. ICE gets under 20B a year. Money is absolutely an issue. We go almost 2T in debt every year just to say afloat, because of social programs, which need to be scaled down.

The flaw in your math is, the current count of honeless individuals is roughly 771,480 as of Jan 2024, which is of course, nowhere NEAR 340 million

https://endhomelessness.org/state-of-homelessness/

It makes sense that you would make these statements though. You aren't educated about it. I'm sure that 340 million number did seem overwhelming. It's just also not the volume of homeless people and, to cure homelessness, we really only need to fix the people who don't have homes to start.

I know you're not going to bother reading the source but, you should. It might help you be less ignorant about this topic.

You said socialize basic living needs. 49% of US households struggle to pay rent. Would not those who have homes but are struggling use this benefit? Homelessness is not disease one can cure, you can only treat it. The best way to treat it is to have a free market of equal opportunity, which we have, and to fight drugs coming in to the country. 40% of homeless have some sort of substance abuse addiction. 50% of homeless have mental disorders. We could drastically reduce the homeless rate by addressing those two issues.

I said we could have fixed homelessness and fixed hunger. Moving the goal post will not help your argument. Also, I agree with helping drug and mental disorders as well. I literally just said that. Curing the homelessness and hunger is also known to reduce the rates of those mental episodes by north of 37%. Additionally, the drug usage lowers by over 60% when those needs are met (https://jech.bmj.com/content/73/5/379)

So again, if you want to solve those problems, the definitive better measure is to solve the root problem and not band aid it like you're suggesting. It doesn't help and it only furthers an agenda for others to capitalize on the basic needs of others. At this point in the conversation, given the wealth of knowledge I have provided with sources to validate them, it can only be reasonable to assume that you WANT them to be hurt past this point or you would agree that the known statistical ways to solve most of these problems which are also statistically lower cost than what we are doing now (and I've provided you these facts in sourcing) - is the clear and obvious choice.

But you don't. So you must want to allow others to make profit on the misfortune of others. That's a hot take. I disagree.

Go re-read what I wrote and ask more specific questions because your statement that it would cost the 2-5 Trillion dollars is not an estimate for each year nor does it speak to the concept of making sure food is available and the usage of rent subsidies to provide that housing.

We added over 2 Trillion to the debt this alone. Health programs like medicare etc. account for about 24% of the budget. Military related debt accounts for about 33%.

Which of these numbers is bigger?

340 million Americans, $1,000 a month for rent.....4 trillion USD. Not everyone needs that help so we get somewhere in the 2-5T range.

Medicare and medicaid account for 1.7T of US spending=24%
Military spending is around 900B.
Which of those numbers is bigger?

Also, FYI, the average national incerase is about 1-1.5T per year. Trump averages over 2 trillion in added debt and last presidency finished by adding 7.8T to the debt - so no, 2 is not the average. It's just the average for Trump.

Every president and the equivalent in every country since the 40s is like this.
I doubt anyone could get elected if they attempted otherwise.. either unelectable or shoot... probably both