Gerrymandering

Both parties gerrymander, I agree, but I'm pretty sure the Dems are the only ones that do it so awfully that even a judge had to step in to stop them from basically denying all Republicans in a state any sort of representation.

No, you're not sure because you made that up.

As you know judges are political in America if you see gerrymandered maps they both look insane in both ways.
I noticed you didn't answer my question by the way.

Because I already answered it in my initial post, the Dems have gerrymandered their states to hell. Also, considering blue states also counted illegal migrants, they've simply got way too many seats.

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Conservatives won big in 2024 which means the current gerrymandering worked for them.
If both trump is doing a good job and Kirk created millions of conservatives is true, why gerrymander more? Illegals can't vote

Illegals can't vote in REPUBLICAN states, but they can in places like the hellhole known as California considering their blatant refusal of voter ID. Besides, I didn't mean just that, it's also the fact that Dems count them in the consensus. Meaning that, according to falsified records, California's got more citizens than it actually does, which means they're given more seats in congress. Seats that are taken away from states that don't cheat by counting illegals.

1. Illegals can't still vote because in order to vote you have to register and in order to register you need to prove citizenship, so that's another lie from the right wing media machine.
2. Yes they count illegals in their census, just like Texas and the rest of conservative states do.

Another question...if liberal states are hellholes why most liberal states give money to the federal government while most conservative states have to be subsidized by liberal states in order to survive?

1. There are literal illegals driving around in California with drivers licenses given to them by the DMV, or did you forget that Indian guy making an illegal U-turn that killed a few people?
2. No, conservative states don't do that. And even if they did, they simply shouldn't, as illegals aren't citizens. And also, if all states did so, it'd still mean blue states would get more seats than they should, as they're the ones with illegal sanctuary cities to protect them from ICE.

Dude, you just have to walk around a blue city to see what's wrong. I'm pretty sure there's an app showing where people saw actual human shit in California. Spoiler alert, the map was so full of dots that you couldn't see the actual shitty city. Not to mention the crime tsunami, and the used needles you can just find on sidewalks.

1. Prove that bs
2. They are there because there are jobs offered to them which means they want them.
Believe it or not illegals won't move in places where they can't work.
3.the epidemic of crime is due in part to refugees from crap hole conservative states that move there to "make it big" since depressed conservative states don't give them opportunities.
Once there they realize they can't compete because they were educated in conservative states and end up in homelessness.

1. The fact that that Indian guy drove like he still was in India while still having gotten a valid license from the DMV says enough.

2. Not relevant to what I said, but okay. Besides, it's not where they can work that they move to, it's where they can make a profit. Huge difference. Just look at Killmar, the wife beating human smuggler from MS13.

3. Pretty sure it's the other way around, with people moving away from California because living there's simply become too expensive for them. And even then, Gavin Newsome has been elected again and again to fix the issue, and all he does is throw money at it without fixing the root cause.
Sure, there are some people who are duped into going to California, but any sane person would be smart enough to avoid that (literally) shit covered hellhole.

1. Having a driver license is not proof of residence.You can be illegal, a student,a worker , green card holder and depending of the state have a driver's license that doesn't mean you can vote how do I know? I went through the whole process myself.
2. Google it , every single state does no matter the color.
Actually the states close to the border have more illegals and a lot of them are red or purple.
Agree , illegals should not count.
3. What's wrong in blue STATES? The dumbest states , the poorest states are conservative.
The states that need more help are conservative.
California alone has a stronger economy than most of them combined.
If is not for liberal states conservative American would be a 3rd world country.

1. I didn't say earned, I said given. As in, they were just handed them by the Californian DMV. And again, if you live in a place that's repulsed by voter ID, something like a drivers license could be "proof" enough that you're able to vote.

2. Just because they have them doesn't mean that they want them, as ICE can act without issue in red states, unlike with blue states. But even if illegals are counted on both sides, it'd still mean that blue states get rewarded with more power for breaking immigration law, while red states get punished with less power for following said laws.

3. Pretty sure California's going the way of 1900's London. Technically extremely wealthy, but only for the elite. Considering California's dealing with an epidemic of crime and homelessness, it wouldn't be too far fetched to call that state the 1900's London of the 21st century.