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I honestly didn't know that, but that's more likely to have happened before the Left radicalized him.

The fact that he thought killing someone over letting him speak his mind is proof enough of his radicalization. The fact that you can't see that means that either A. you yourself are radicalized, or B. you are simply not a good person, just like so many Dems who claim that they are.

Well your president thinks you should deport legal residents if they speak against Kirk or Israel...is pedo Donny radicalized?
My bet is he was maga radicalized and grew disenchanted by looking at the evil parts of the maga doctrine , mostly by extreme talking heads like Kirk.
Many maga are growing disenchanted this days, the cult lis growing smaller every day.

1. I'm not an American, so Trump's not my president.
2. He never said LEGAL residents should be deported, only ILLEGAL ones while banning people celebrating violence from entering the USA.
3. There is no evidence of Trump being a pedo. And don't even start about the Epstein list, it Trump was on there the Dems would've shown it to the world when they were the ones in power. Regardless of our own thoughts about the man, there's no questioning the people in charge of the Democratic party absolutely hate him.
4. How the hell would he get radicalized by MAGA at a college? The staff there is so heavily skewed to the left that students all over the USA are afraid they get lower scores if the express right-wing beliefs.
5. Even if he WAS radicalized by MAGA, why shoot Kirk of all people? If it was someone like AOC it'd be more believable, but why would a right-wing radical who worships Trump like Jesus shoot someone close to the guy?
6. The bullet casings had pro-trans and ANTIFA stuff engraved, there's your proof of him being radicalized by the left.
7. I've seen so many Dems disgusted by the cheering of Kirk's death that they disavowed the left as a whole and switched sides.
8. Dems encourage people to cut ties off with people voting for their political opponents. That's Cult 101 behavior right there.

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Ok
2.please check marco Rubio's statement threatening people with student visa and green cards he did it this week after Kirk was killed.
3.There is statements made by him and witnesses that imply so or testify to it.
If trump is so innocent why is he covering it up? Calling it a hoax?
4.he got radicalized by maga by his maga family
5.because Kirk was smart but he was crude and despicable.He though kids being killed were worth his right to have guns, he thought blacks should not vote, he thought MLK was terrible for what he did.
Not sure if that pushed him but not all maga are mindless drones that do as maga dictates.
6.maybe , maybe was a decoy. More than likely maga made him a radical and he swapped ideologies when he realized the evils of maga, not the first time someone who is taught radicalization do so.
7. True but they still understand maga is worse. I am not a dem but I find it disgusting even though I understand why they cheer.
8. Not saying Dems don't isolate and demonize. The main difference between progressive and maga is that maga is based on an ideology but worships a person while progressivism only is based on ideology.
That being said both dehumanizing opponents and try to control though processes completely.

Pretty sure the whole Green Card thing was mostly against people who call out for violence, or people that didn't say they were going to do something that'd prevent them from getting a Green Card in the first place. If someone is explicitly calling for or celebrating violence, or openly supports Hamas (which, if they said they were going to do when getting a Green Card, would've likely barred them from the USA to begin with), would it be that bad to send them back to their country of origin?

Witness statements can be faked, especially when it comes to well known people. If a witness has a reason to hate Trump (which is pretty much half of the USA), there'd be no reason not to think they lied to get rid of Trump. And, again, the Dems had the Epstein files for four years. If Trump was really in them, they would've released the relevant files during the election at the latest.

Oh yeah, because the cop who all but ordered his killer kid to turn himself in for this horrific crime would be the kind of guy to radicalize someone into killing someone.

I suppose that, if the guy really was MAGA, it'd make some kind of twisted sense to demonize someone willing to talk to the other side. After all, a lot of Dems do that with their own. Besides, from all the points you've said, I've seen that it's either been taken out of context or an outright lie. He compared the guns thing with people killing people with cars and not taking cars away from responsible people, I'm pretty sure that the black thing was either a hoax or people spinning it from something like him saying UNINFORMED people shouldn't be allowed to vote, and he may have been talking about MLK's personal life such as him breaking his wedding promises to his wife. You can correct me on that though, as I'm not entirely familiar with that particular story about him.

Honestly, I still think the most likely explanation is that he was radicalized by the constant "Trump is a Nazi" speak the Dems do. If you were a mentally unstable person who thought the country was going the way of early-20th century Germany, it'd only be a matter of time before you tried to attack the people that you constantly hear are responsible for destroying democracy and are committing genocide.

With how violent the left as a whole is compared to the right as a whole (MAGA included), I honestly cannot agree with you that MAGA is worse than the left. And the only thing I can understand why people would cheer for this is hate.

Not really the text just started saying "foreigners that make light of the death of Charly Kirk"no mention of violence.modt people are pointing out how crude he was or making fun but the only ones calling for violence are maga.
Well true but he is on record saying he and Epstein like them "young", grab the by the xx etc. That corroborate what witnesses say, also your logic can be applied to someone like Maxwell who has a lot to gain by not implicating Trump.

Dems tried again this week to release all the files and Repubes stopped them...why?
Black thing...not a hoax is on video, actually several videos.
The MLK deal was because thanks to him blacks have voting rights which for Kirk degenerated in to inclusion and diversity policies.I know he spoke about king being a cheater and calling him "awful" because of that but guess which orange dude is same or worse than King? Did he call him awful ever?
About the radicalization I disagree because he didn't attacked Trump , I think he probably was Kirk fan and then he grew disenchanted.
Kind of like when you are deeply in love with a girl and she cheats on you, you hate her more than if she was just someone to pass the time.
The left is worst when it comes to violence like riots yes.
Assassination attempts? Just remember a conservative just killed a senator not too long ago and injured another one, also the attack on Pelosi.Conservatives keep talking about how well armed they are for this civil war they want to happen might not be violence now but they are ready for it.

To be fair, if someone celebrates death, I don't want them in my country either.

Well, you're right about that. Problem with witness statements around Trump is the simple fact that you either love him or hate him for what he's doing, making any witness naturally biased. But that just means you can only rely on hard evidence, which simply isn't there.

And once again, the Dems had access to the files for four years while simultaneously trying to throw Trump into prison. If he really was in those files, they'd have released at least the part that shows he was complicit in what Epstein did. The only reason they care about it now is because Trump not releasing them puts him in a bad light.

So I was right, MLK DID break his wedding vows to his wife. As for the whole DEI thing, I also think it's abhorrent, as it's simply just in a new package. Giving black folks a job simply because of their skin color is just as bad as denying them on the same basis.

Eh, honestly, I don't think he was a Kirk fan to begin with. Again, his bullets were engraved with ANTIFA and pro-trans stuff, and he did have a trans girlfriend when this all happened (who is fully cooperating with the FBI btw).

You mean that guy who disguised himself like a cop, right? In fairness, if a group is large enough (like half the USA's worth), then it wouldn't be that far fetched to see some crazies among them. But, again, the sheer number of violent leftists is far greater than violent right wingers, and it doesn't exactly help that leftist thought leaders like those at CNN constantly call the right Nazis, or the Dems in Congress constantly shouting about a "constitutional crises" whenever the Reps do anything they don't like.

I just want to ask you a couple of questions since I either agree,half agree or we are discussing an intangible.
1. Do you think is worth not giving blacks the right to vote in order not to have dei like Kirk proposed?
2. Do you think Kirk is a hypocrite by calling mkl a bad person while he was completely subservient to a man who is worse or at least the same and Kirk never criticized him for it?

1. I never saw the video where he said that. And honestly, knowing how much the media likes to spin stuff and how they take things out of context (like how they said the trans church shooter had Trump's name on their gun, while in reality it said Kill Donald Trump), I'm not sure I'd believe it if the source was CNN or something. That said, if he DID say that, I do not think taking away anyone's right to vote is a good thing. That said, I am very much against DEI, as I think it's simply discriminatory to hire someone based on skin color, gender, sexuality, or anything like that. And if the "taking away black votes" comes from wanting voter ID, well, that kind of stuff is mandatory in pretty much every other functioning democracy on the planet, and you don't hear anything in my little country about that kind of thing being racist.

2. I honestly don't think Trump's a bad person, so no, Kirk's not a hypocrite. Trump is trying his damn hardest to make sure his promises are kept, unlike most other politicians who just make a token effort and just say "welp, I tried" before doing whatever the f**k they want. Not to mention that that mortgage fraud thing, well, even the banks he'd supposedly ripped of said there wasn't anything wrong (and ironically, the main prosecution of that case is now facing charges of mortgage fraud herself, and what makes it worse is that her license is tied to her living in New York, meaning that the case could even be rendered null and void due to the simple fact she might not have even been able to charge Trump in the first place).

And the Epstein thing? Again, the Democrats had full access to the list for four years. And even if our opinions on them are radically different (you think they're wonderful people, I think they're hate filled monsters that cheer for the deaths of their opponents), we can at least agree that (justified or not) they truly HATE Trump. And if they had some smoking gun that could get the guy they hated into prison, they'd have used it. The simple fact they hadn't for four years means that it's more than likely simply not there.