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Democracy dies when we stop caring about basic human decency

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2 ups, 1mo,
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If they start doing something illegal or wrong ill let you know.
0 ups, 4w,
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Since you've clearly forgotten already:
Done nothing about genocide in Gaza
Cushied up to Russia (an autocracy and dictatorship by the way)
Fired national park rangers
Deported people without fair trial
Sent out ICE in unmarked vans and masks
Put the national guard in DC without any sort of real explanation
Threatened cities with strong opposition with more loyal states' national guard
Defunded regulatory bodies
Ignored the climate crisis AND the fact that American oil is running out rapidly
Made several tax cuts for the ultra wealthy
Hope this helps
2 ups, 4w,
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1. Not genocide
2. That didnt happen
3. Thats illegal?
4. Illegal?
5. Completely normal
6. Not illegal (you like crime?)
7. Again, do you like crime?
8. ?
9. No such thing, and its really, really not. (227 years + gas and coal)
10. Tax cuts for everyone.
0 ups, 4w,
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1. 80% of deaths due to the war in Gaza have been civilians. For reference, 2/3 of the deaths suffered by the Soviet Union in WW2 were civilians, whilst the Germans actively considered slavs subhuman, sent out death squads to kill them and deported them to camps. If 80% is not genocide, what is?
2. Don't play stupid.
3. You asked for illegal or wrong things they've done. I'm listing morally wrong things they've done, as is the focus of the image I posted
4. Yes it's illegal "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial" -- 6th Amendment to the US Constitution
5. If sending out people in masks and unmarked vehicles to take people from their homes without a trial, you've made a secret police. That is a secret police
6. Still morally wrong, crime in DC hit a 30 year low in 2024 and preliminary data shows a further drop for 2025, so it's also a lie
7. The federal courts ruled Trump's deployment of the guard in LA was unlawful
8. 400 FAA employees were laid off in February, and the National Weather Service fired 600 workers and suspended weather balloon measurements for a short period
9. Climate change is proven to be real, any scientist worth their salt will tell you this. In terms of technically recoverable reserves, the world has 1.66trn known and an estimated total of around 2trn barrels. OPEC estimates 105m barrels per day are consumed, so let's bring that down to 100m for simplicity's sake. That makes 36.5bn barrels a year, or around 55 years worth of oil. If demand doesn't grow.
10. The OBBBA gives the top 1% of Americans a cut of $65,000 whilst the bottom 20% get a cut of $111 on average.
2 ups, 4w,
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1. Tell Hamas to stop using people as human shields.
2. Im not.
3. Why is it wrong?
4. "due process" applies differently to illegal immigrants.
5. So what should they do? Have marked vehicles and blow their cover?
6. Again, crime is insanely high in DC, so why would we not stop it?
7. Preliminary ruling of one judge waiting appeal.
8. Thats a problem?
9. Proven? How? America alone has 227 years of oil at current consumption.
10. Yeah, obviously. Tax rates are a thing: the top 1% pay 40% of all income taxes, the bottom 20% pay 0% of income taxes.
0 ups, 4w,
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1. Did you not read what I wrote about WW2. Do you not think human shields were used there too?
2. Then you should know that Trump has given Putin two week deadlines for peace again and again without any repercussions for Putin for not meeting them, parroted Kremlin talking points and hampered the Ukrainian war effort
3. National Park Rangers protect the US's natural heritage and your land (as you are a member of the public, national parks are your land) and preserve endangered species.
4. It doesn't. Does "all criminal prosecutions" read differently to you?
5. It seems to work fine for police forces across the world.
6. It isn't. Learn to read lil guy, 30 year low means something
7. In that case we can continue this when the appeal is finished
8. It is if you want accurate weather predictions for, oh I don't know, hurricanes and floods? Not that there have been any big ones recently. And FAA cuts are only an issue if you want effective air traffic control to prevent plane collisions
9. Proven as in we know they exist. That's how oil conpanies know where to build their wells. I don't know where you got the 200 year figure from, but it doesn't apply to oil. If it's for coal, I regret to inform you that your car won't work if you put coal in it.
10. If the bottom 20% pay 0 income taxes, that means they make less than $30k a year. 20% of Americans make less than $30k a year. The living wage in the poorest state is $43k a year. And that doesn't strike you as odd? That's not even covering wealth by the way
11. It is Trump's call. Nobody is stopping him from releasing the files. They exist, and he said so himself in his campaign he would release them.
1 up, 4w,
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1. Probably
2. Repercussions like freezing their economy? What do you want him to do? Strike Russia?
3. Ok, and?
4. They are not standard criminal prosecutions, they are civil prosecutions, different laws.
5. Like in the dozens of other countries that use unmarked police?
6. Well crime rates in 2024 were significantly higher than in 2019.
7. Sure
8. Did he abolish the FAA?
9. "The United States has enough technically recoverable oil for an estimated 227 years at current consumption rates, according to a report by the Institute for Energy Research (IER). This figure represents a significant increase from previous estimates due to enhanced extraction technologies and the discovery of new reserves."
10. No? Some people have low paying jobs.
11. "Some Jeffrey Epstein-related files have been released, but others remain sealed, including grand jury records and certain investigative materials
. The files and documents are handled by different courts and agencies, so their public status varies."
0 ups, 1w
1. So human shields were used in Barbarossa, with a lower (proportional) civilian death toll than seen in Gaza. This is despite the fact that the Nazis considered slavs subhuman and regularly sent out gangs of soldiers and SS men to shoot civilians. It's genocide
2. I would like him not to cut starlink access for Ukraine, not to cut aid to Ukraine not to have excluded Ukraine from peace negotiations, not to attack Ukraine's leader with baseless accusations,and not to hamper the war effort of a (admittedly flawed) democracy defending itself from an oppressive dictatorship.
3. So he's fired 1000 of the people who preserve your country's natural heritage and beauty. Do you need me to connect the dots for you?
4. My apologies. The 6th amendment is not relevant here. It's the 5th and 14th amendments that are relevant here (I am not a constitutional scholar). The text of the 14th states "nor shall any state [...] deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law". If you'll notice how it says person, not citizen. This was, determined to extend to illegal migrants under the 1993 Reno v Flores SC case. And protection of the law means due process, as seen in the 1993 case.
5. In other (democratic) countries (with rule of law), unmarked cars are used for things like sting operations, observation of suspects, etc. Not for (as you pointed out) civil cases.
6. If you think a homicide rate of 27.3/100,000 is bad enough to send in the national guard, may I remind you that, according to the NYPD's national archive of criminal justice data, in 1990, with George H W Bush as POTUS, NYC's crime rate was 31/100,000. The national guard was not sent in.
8. Say I'm responsible for giving you food. I decide to give you less food. According to your logic, that's fine, because I'm still giving you SOME food. Just because he didn't abolish it, doesn't mean he didn't hamper its ability to act.
9. Ah the Institute for Energy Research. A trustworthy organisation with donors such as Exxonmobil, the American Petroleum Institute (a huge oil lobbying group) and Peabody Energy (a coal mining firm). I'm sure they can be trusted to make fair and unbiased research concerning oil use and climate change.
10. Yes. That's what I'm saying. 20% of Americans don't earn the living wage in the poorest state.
11. Find me something proving how Trump cannot legally force the files to be released. Because all you've said here is that some files aren't public. Which I know.
0 ups, 4w,
1 reply
Oh and I nearly forgot all the personal crimes Trump has done, from the immoral but legal tax avoidance, the fact that he is a convicted felon, to the Epstein List. I would still really like to see that last one
2 ups, 4w,
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Legal tax avoidance is immoral? LOL. You have the list?
0 ups, 4w,
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No I don't have the list. That's why I would really like to see it. Unfortunately, a certain Donald Trump appears to be withholding it for no apparent reason.
Yes tax avoidance is immoral. You are knowingly not paying your fair share towards infrastructure, schools, health, defence, clean water, electricity, etc. How is this a debate
2 ups, 4w
Its not Trumps call. If the files even exist. The rich pay far more than their fair share already, the amount they are taxed is ludicrous.
2 ups, 1mo,
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0 ups, 4w,
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1. The above image is a trans athlete in women's wrestling. Disgraceful, I know. He did that because Texas Law requiring him to participate in the gender category he was born in forced him to, because he was born a woman

2. I don't want open borders. I want moral treatment of immigrants because they are human, as well as equal treatment of rich migrants and poor migrants.

3. Trump right now is trying to get the Fed to lower interest rates to increase growth. The Fed has refused to do so in favour of keeping inflation low. Trump, in retaliation, has tried to fire its governor and attacked it repeatedly. The 2022-23 inflation spike was a global phenomenon cause by food and oil shortages thanks to Russia's illegal war, disruption due to the pandemic, and stimulus funds aimed at restarting the economy after lockdown

4. The US has 80% more rapes per million and 91% more murders per million, despite having ten times as many prisoners per capita than Finland. Maybe it's time to rethink the idea that being tough on crime only will solve everything.

5. People don't get abortions because they feel like it, or because they want to party more or some bullshit like that. Until you're a woman faced with a child you never wanted and can't afford, do not.

6. In an ideal world, we wouldn't tax any income below $100,000 per annum. We don't live in an ideal world. However, if we were to tax the trillions in assets companies like Blackrock, banks and speculators hold, as well as the wealth of individuals like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates, we could afford not to tax tips or overtime. Unfortunately, Trump seems set on doing the opposite

7. Trump has not ended the Ukraine war, not ended Gaza, and threatened war with Venezuela.

8. Neither Biden nor Obama ever made any attempt to repeal the First Amendment.

9. 1% of people regret their transition surgery. 20% of people regret knee surgery.
1 up, 4w,
1 reply
Hogwash
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0 ups, 4w,
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1 up, 4w,
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Nah... there was so much dishonesty in your comment I'm not going to bother answering... It also tells me that you have no intention of carrying on an honest conversation.
0 ups, 1w
If there's so much lying, then please be my guest and inform me where I'm wrong. After all, I'm sure I'm just a stupid libtard or whatever you call us nowadays who can't tell fact from fiction, so please educate me
2 ups, 1mo,
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1 up, 1mo
"I can't find an actual reason to attack this but I am fundamentally uncomfortable with being kind, so I'll just post this image of a laughing man because I'm a grown adult"

Bro ppl don't think ur cool just bcs ur a bad person🥀🥀
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