Agreed! Not to single her out, since time can do things to all of us, but she wasn't horrible *looking* when she was younger, imo. Yes, time has not been kind to her face, but regardless I think she's a pretty good example of beauty (if we want to go there as far as she's concerned) being skin deep, but ugly going right to the bone. And brother, on the inside she's about as ugly as it gets.