The seven von Trapp kids all turned out okay. Bobby and Ethel had eleven kids, which was one too many.

Turns out he thinks chem-trails are real too.

If you dismiss all vaccine skepticism even after covid, were you just not paying attention?

i think it's funny how your comments imply you to be some kind of expert, when you're really just a drone in the propaganda factory.

Do you think the covid vaccine works?

of course it works.

At preventing what, transmission or infection?

it doesn't prevent either of those things, but it reduces the risk of infection greatly, which also reduces the rate of transmission.

I remember when it was considered "misinformation" to suggest the vaccines were not 100% effective, or that they had serious side effects.

um, no. that was never considered misinformation, and you're the one moving the goalpost. suggesting that the vaccines didn't work, *that* was misinformation. suggesting that the vaccines were any more dangerous than other common vaccines, *that* was misinformation. your headline below is also misleading because it labels a statement by a Pfizer executive as an "admission" when he/she was simply answering a question. the fact that he/she didn't know whether the vaccine stopped transmission isn't in any way criminal. they simply didn't have an ethically sound way to test for that. what they test for is whether a vaccinated group contracts the virus to a lesser extent than the general population in the same environment. that is the primary test of an effective vaccine. it follows that transmission is reduced if infections are reduced (simply because there are fewer infected people to transmit the virus), but the Pfizer executive couldn't say that based on data becuase they don't have such data. now, the representative who called that statement shocking and criminal is either a bonehead who shouldn't be commenting publicly on things they don't understand, or they were taking criminal advantage of people's ignorance to foment animosity for the vaccine.

now here's some valuable advice from Seinfeld: if everything you've ever thought was wrong, the opposite would have to be right. if you could just pause before saying these kinds of things, and then consider that you're very probably wrong, and then not say anything, you'd be miles ahead of where you are now. i know that sounds mean, but someone needs to tell you.

Lmao I just got muted for 2 days because I suggested the vaccine had serious side effects

what you just posted doesn't support your claim about not preventing infection or transmission. also, without citing your source, it's credibility and statements can't be checked for parameters like frequency of the mentioned negative consequences.

well did you use that time to reflect on what you said? i mean, did you think about the difference between pointing out that, as with all vaccines, there's a chance of an allergic reaction in some individuals, and saying things like "and they wanted to make that shit mandatory"?

Are you saying that no attempts were made to mandate the vaccine?

i don't think about complex issues in black and white. the extreme need for a vaccine might never have been reached if everyone had behaved more maturely and rationally early on. unfortunately we're not there as a culture. maybe some day.

Did you support vaccine mandates or not?

no, I'm saying that one position is responsible because it's accurately informed and the other is simply propagating deadly misinformation.

do you understand that the vaccine was mandated in certain contexts because the government is responsible for the health and well-being of all citizens? if mandating a vaccine in a military context (where they have authority) or in a healthcare context (where transmission rates will be unusually high) will save lives, they're going to do it.

if you and your pals were the only people being harmed by your behavior, that would be one thing, but when other people suffer and die from it, that's inexcusable.

Do you think the vaccine should be mandatory?

when they were imposed, i wasn't asked to support or oppose them. if somone you asked me, 'did they save lives?', i'd say the mandates probably saved many since the efficacy of all the vaccines was so high in clinical trials and the rate of infection dropped in the general population once the vaccines became available. is that what you really wanted to know?

Did you support lockdowns?

it wouldn't serve a purpose. most people at high risk either already died in 2020-21 or they're already vaccinated now or they've survived the deadliest strains.

when the next pandemic comes along, are you going to sing this same song, or will you do the right thing to save other people?

Did you think it should have been mandatory?

just so we're clear, your claim is not consistent with the facts. you're clinging to misinformation, and i wouldn't be surprised if it got you muted again or worse.

well now, that's a more interesting question. lockdowns are a standard approach to fighting epidemics because they immediately reduce the rate of transmission while infected individuals can be identified for quarantine. unfortunately for us, most Americans are highly unprepared for financial emergencies, and many of those were willing to let others pay the price by spreading a deadly virus. i don't know if you recall, but many citizens rejected the idea of even a two-week lockdown outright, and so they helped the virus gain a solid foothold in the US and made the problem of controlling it much worse than it had to be. the main thing we learned from the pandemic is just how little some people care about anyone but themselves. also unfortunately, not everyone learned it, so the next pandemic could be just as deadly.

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf
The federal government assured the US that it would "only" last two weeks

And they wanted to make that shit mandatory