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Wow, 5 days without an answer is kinda crazy ngl. It's on us for that tbh, this stream's becoming more dead by the month.

Anyway, despite your biased language of calling Palestinians "Hamas terrorists," I'm going to assume this question is in good faith, so I am not going to ban you or take this post down (for now). Mostly because Zionists don't exactly have a broad vernacular.

imgflip.com/i/7pusef?nerp=1687185860#com26267021 check out this thread and go through our neatly organized arguments against Zionism in general. After that, feel free to consult any anti-zionists about whatever good-faithed questions you have about our beliefs ("why do you like murdering jewish babies" does not constitute a question in good-faith).

just sayin the main reason i’m not anti zionist is because that means all other religions except judaism would have a designated state for them, and it’s kinda unfair to the jews

i mean palestinians could have the uninhabited part of kazakhstan

That’s like the weirdest reason to not be against Zionism, cause, like, what negative impact does this even have if the Jews don’t get their own state? By that logic, everyone who worships Matshishkapeu should have a state of their own, and have an inherent right to ethnically cleanse everyone in both Palestine and the current Israeli territories.

And it’s not like there aren’t any Jewish communities. There are tons of cities, towns and other settlements that are mainly inhabited by Jews. Hell, NYC alone has over 500,000 Jewish inhabitants.

There’s no need at all to expel Palestinians from their own land.

Hello there. Thanks for reaching out to us on wanting to know more about our cause.

I have a problem with your argument. Why so? Well you say that every religion would have a designated state to them. However that is not the case in this moment.
Saudi Arabia is the country of the Saudi arabs, and not particularly the Muslims.
Vatican City wouldn't enter in your argument as, while it's the representative of the Christian Catholics, it's not a country in the proper sense.
India doesn't belong to Hinduism even though it has a great number of followers from that country, and China wouldn't represent atheism, even of their communist regime.

Now the last part is wrong as well because you're saying to possibly steal land from autochtonous people (Zionists favourite hobby) which is wrong. It's the Palestinians who were stolen from their land and not vice-versa. Why not as well tell Palestinians to go to Antarctica while we're at it?

And to add to the other person’s argument, if you really think about it, unlike the Zionist narrative of being a lone Jewish state surrounded by Muslim/Arab states, there are no “true” Muslim/Arab states.

If I were to suddenly find out I had Arabic ancestry, that doesn’t mean that I can just go to Iran or Saudi Arabia and get a citizenship based off that fact alone. If I were to convert to Islam, then that isn’t an automatic guarantee that I can just go to a supposed “Muslim state” and get citizenship.

If I were to have Jewish ancestry or convert to Judaism, then that is grounds for automatically being allowed in Israel. That is what makes Israel a Jewish state. You can’t do a similar thing as an Arab or Muslim in any of the supposed “Arab/Muslim countries,” so they aren’t Muslim countries in the sense that Israel is a Jewish state. Israel is one of the only countries that was built *specifically* for a people with a certain demographic in mind (which is why a lot of anti-zionists call it an ethnostate), which is what differentiates it from its neighbors.

I honestly cannot consider your argument factual when it's not as detailled as needed. What answer should you be expecting from this question? How are you even sure it's a right question to pose?

Bro wtf is this shit, it’s so sad to see that this is a Zionist’s definition of a good faith question.

“Why do you like bad thing, isn’t it bad?” ahh question

The Zionist Genocide, Torture, R_pe, Theft, Unlawful Confinement and Apartheid - is the actual terrorism. Under International Law, people living under an unlawful settler-colonial occupation, have the lawful right to take up arms, for their liberation. The settlements surrounding Gaza are a Militarized Ring, called the "Gaza Security Envelope". They're built on land stolen from the Palestinians, who were herded into the Open-air Prison/Concentration Camp, of Gaza.

Even prior to the October 7th 2023 "Al Aqsa Flood" Operation, and subsequent Genocidal campaign against all of the Palestinians, you can see that the vast majority of those killed in the conflict were Palestinian - by checking out the graphs at IfAmericansKnew.info . It's always been at least a 10:1 ratio - the vast majority of whom were innocent, unarmed Palestinians, whether men, women or children.

Under the most recent (Fascist) Netanyahu Government, the murders of Palestinians had begun to precipitously increase, particularly in the Occupied West Bank and stolen East Jerusalem - before October 7th. In combination with a series of deliberate and brutal provocations, at the Al Aqsa Mosque complex, by Zionist thugs - protected and assisted by Police and Soldiers...Hamas finally declared the actions of the Zionists, to amount to a declaration of war. This was in Winter/Spring of 2023.

So they announced that there would be consequences. It's now clear in the Zionist Entity's "State" Media, that the Netanyahu Government had multiple warnings that October 7th was going to occur. Instead of preparing a defense - they deliberately stripped the settlements of their weapons - and pulled the soldiers to the West Bank, leaving them essentially undefended, on purpose. And they drew more victims to the area, by giving permits to the Electronic Music festival. They had a plan for Genocide and the resettlement of Gaza - and they needed an adequate excuse, to begin that process.

The tales of horrors on October 7th (Mass R_pes, Beheaded babies in ovens, etc.) are deliberate LIES - War Propaganda designed to demonize the Palestinians, and justify their subsequent slaughter, in the domestic and foreign press. According to the battle damage assessment of former USMC Intelligence Officer Scott Ritter - 80% of the 1200 (Zionist settlers) killed were the victims of a (Mass) "Hannibal Directive" slaughter, by the Zionist Abomination's Military. Only Hellfire Missiles, auto-cannon and Tank shells can do that.

they technically didn’t steal it from the palestinians but the war is just plain wrong

I appreciate your being willing to engage, here...

This isn't a "war" - so much as the culmination of a long running plan for Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing - and yes - even theft.

According to the Torah, and long-standing precedents of Jewish Law and Tradition - the Jewish Diaspora is a divinely decreed exile. And part of that, is that any attempt to create a Jewish sovereignty - ANYWHERE on Earth, is FORBIDDEN. And in particular, Jews are not to return to Palestine in large numbers, much less try to "reclaim" that region, on their own. They are supposed to be loyal and lawful subjects, wherever they may happen to be, following G-d's laws, until they receive the Messiah, which G-d has promised them. If they believe in G-d enough, to believe that they're entitled to the lands of others - then they can follow G-d's laws, and wait for a Messiah.

The Messiah is supposed to transport all of the world's Jews to the Holy Land, in divine fashion, "on the wings of eagles" - without any direct human action. So too, is the Temple supposed to be rebuilt, without any human intervention.

The initial Zionist movement, began with a spurious "Messiah", named Sabbathai Zevi. He was deemed a dangerous lunatic, by almost all of world Jewry. He was followed by his protegé, Jacob Frank - likewise, regarded as a lunatic. Both were very unsavory characters. But apparently Frank did manage to meet with a Rothschild and Adam Weisshaupt (founder of the Bavarian Illuminati), and get them to support the idea of violating the Divine will, to create a "Jewish Homeland" in Palestine. This was in the later 18th Century.

Since then, in the mid-19th Century - the idea began getting some traction - and some Jews began relocating there, and buying property - sometimes legally, and sometimes using unlawful tactics. By the 1890's you have Herzl starting the official modern Zionist Organization.

Then you have the declaration of Lord Balfour - a British Imperialist, who didn't own Palestine, but merely had administrative control over it, at the end of WW1. Zionist Terrorism and theft became much more common, between the wars. At the End of WW2, the Zionists began a wave of theft and Genocide - coinciding with the Brits asking the UN to steal large portions of Palestine from its owners, to give it to Zionists. That's how Gaza got turned into a Prison/Concentration Camp. Then there's the 1967 war - more THEFT. So, as you can see... Theft is the correct word to use.