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Comments will be left open on this meme | I have been misusing the word "crusader"
the way many of my haters misuse the
word "porn". I use "crusader" as shorthand
for anyone who raids a horny stream to
post hateful graffiti. This is unfair to the
crusaders who remain true to their calling
of ending TOS violations on imgflip, and
I apologize for slandering them. This site
NEEDS people to police legitimate TOS
violations, without breaking TOS in the
process. They are out there, but we don't
see them because they're doing it right.
They don't deserve hate. They deserve
commendation, and I'm sorry for not
acknowledging this sooner. In many ways
we want the same thing: the removal of
pornography from imgflip. But the devil is
in the details, and until a definition of
pornography can be agreed upon,
contention will persist. Despite our grievances with each other,
TOS-abiding crusaders and TOS-abiding
hornies share the same foe. It would be
easier for both of us if we stopped
fighting each other and focused our
efforts on our common enemy. | image tagged in peace,world peace,unity | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
100 views 2 upvotes Made by Hannibal_Lecher 2 months ago in Anti-crusader
13 Comments
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
One thing crusaders need to realize is harassment goes angainst tos, meaning that by constantly stalking and dickriding you. They became the thing they swore to destroy
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
Absolutely, and the good crusaders know this. Part of me saw fit to punish them for failing to police themselves, but the problem is with select individuals, not the whole group. True crusaders are probably as annoyed by hypocrite crusaders as I am. Heretics within the crusader ranks are a blight on all crusaderdom but their accountability should be individual, not collective.

As perverse as it will sound, my attitude towards heresy aligns with the crusader cause, at least as far as horny content is concerned. The center of the hedge maze is the failure of TOS to adequately define pornography, leaving everyone to fill in that blank with whatever they choose to believe.
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
Yeah, I just assumed that if it's uncensored and full on nudity then that's porn. The only way to discover is to push the borders of tos to find the wall
1 up, 2mo,
2 replies
That was my tactic. It was all I had in the beginning. I started with dictionary definitions and went from there. 6 of the 7 of them required a sex act, so I figured censored genitals were permissible. The global mod's definition of pornography included exposed nipples, genitals and buttholes, which means redacting them with censored bars, etc wouldn't be allowed because it would be considered censored pornography. But since you can't see under a censored bar, placing a black bar over a bikini would be considered censored pornography.

Worse yet, the TOS some people are so fond of beating me over the head with states that pornography is prohibited even if private parts are covered. If a nipple is pornography, a covered nipple is censored pornography. Therefore every pic of a clothed woman facing the camera is censored pornography. I'm waiting on a clarification, but as of now imgflip's official position governing acceptable horny content is a derailed train full of dumpster fires. I know what will fly and what won't, but that doesn't help everyone left taking their cues from TOS.

This would be moot if I would just leave well enough alone, but that's not my style. I'm bound and determined to get a clear, unambiguous, comprehensive answer one way or the other. Everyone on both sides of the issue deserves that.
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
Yeah, that's why I posted in ecchi stream awhile ago, anon has a lot of patience taking requests
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
It's comical how many people accuse me of being a pedophile because of cartoon images.

Imgflip rules get even more bizarre when you consider d**dos are acceptable. That makes fake pussies fair game too. Theoretically this makes a naked real doll permissible...and at that point why the hell isn't a cartoon dong acceptable, or a fully nude cartoon for that matter? It's a fxcking cartoon. I crave order and this shit just makes no sense.
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
That's cute...I can post pictures of a diIdo but I can't fxcking type it. Case in point about senseless rules.
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
Dylan abonded imgflip but left it to Andrew, as seen with msmg, he mod abuses a lot. He decides what rules to follow and which to ignore.
1 up, 2mo,
1 reply
SerDonald is the enforcer whose rules I abide by. I appreciate his willingness to field my questions. My frustration isn't with him at all, but with the situation. I'm less concerned with what I can get away with than where the hard limits are in the first place. That's the only way to refute the constant badgering I endure from cretins pointing to the last line of the TOS section "Imgflip is not a pornographic website". You'd think it would include a definition of terms, but apparently they thought it was self explanatory. Shrill nagging by legions of horny-haters is the legacy that omission has left us.
0 ups, 2mo,
1 reply
Imgflip is like the bible, it's followers choose which rules to respect
1 up, 2mo
In the absence of enforcement, all rules are scarecrows.
--Hannibal_Lecher
1 up, 2mo
The clarification I was waiting for is that I forgot TOS says "censored", not "covered". It's the No nudity rule that says covered. Whoopsie. There's still no clarification of what constitutes "pornographic", but at a minimum it can be said to include depictions of sex acts. So no sex act, fully covered and non-censored private parts=not pornography, and therefore okay to post as NSFW content, according to rules as written. That's really not so bad after all. Strange that it causes so much controversy.
1 up, 2mo
I muddled the last part. I have no grievance with TOS-abiding crusaders, and never have. It was just convenient to throw them under the bus because I was pissed off at the raids and assumed, incorrectly, that they were sanctioned by "the crusaders". And I believe the only issue TOS-abiding crusaders have with me is that I keep lumping them in with rabble that they have no affiliation with nor sympathy for.

This meme is my way of recognizing that the people I've had an issue with (trolls, basically) and the people I've been blaming it on (crusaders, unfortunately), are two different groups. Trolls gonna troll--nothing new or special about that. And true pornography is KOS with extreme prejudice--that's also a given. What I'm hoping to accomplish here is humbling myself before the good crusaders--the true crusaders--admit I f**ked up by smearing their good name, reiterate that I fully appreciate their cause, and hopefully sway a few trolls on the margin towards narrowing their focus to actual TOS violations instead of content they simply don't want to see. Because at the end of the day, all I ever wanted was to post some damn TOS-compliant smut without being told to kill myself. Evidently the anti-horny trolls and I were both expecting too much.

My third mistake was lashing out at the wrong party. My second mistake was lashing out at all. My first mistake was expecting to be left alone when I already know: trolls gonna troll.
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    I have been misusing the word "crusader" the way many of my haters misuse the word "porn". I use "crusader" as shorthand for anyone who raids a horny stream to post hateful graffiti. This is unfair to the crusaders who remain true to their calling of ending TOS violations on imgflip, and I apologize for slandering them. This site NEEDS people to police legitimate TOS violations, without breaking TOS in the process. They are out there, but we don't see them because they're doing it right. They don't deserve hate. They deserve commendation, and I'm sorry for not acknowledging this sooner. In many ways we want the same thing: the removal of pornography from imgflip. But the devil is in the details, and until a definition of pornography can be agreed upon, contention will persist. Despite our grievances with each other, TOS-abiding crusaders and TOS-abiding hornies share the same foe. It would be easier for both of us if we stopped fighting each other and focused our efforts on our common enemy.