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693 views • 19 upvotes • Made by dogepadre0717 8 months ago in politics
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Memcorio
3 ups, 8mo, 1 reply


No visible explosive flames on the left and right where the structure is severed to suggest detonation charges...disperse!
dogepadre0717
2 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
I have worked on suspension bridges in refineries but nothing of this size. Those 2 "explosions" are actually the power wire that runs the airplane clearance lights snapping and arcing out on the bridge. You can even see the red light go out then flash back on for a split second as it falls and is completely severed!
Memcorio
3 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
Possibly...can you explain how and why the structural steel appears to sever in sections on the left and right, coincidentally where the explosions occurred?



I myself have work experience with iron for over 20 years...no structural steel is gonna conveniently snap in sections like that after column struck. I'm no structural engineer...but I'm not buying this collapse within seconds after struck at single column...NFW!
dogepadre0717
2 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
The wires arced on the joints that severed! Once the center pylon was taken out. All the weight shifted to the outer pylons. Which that amount of a force shock load no rivets and welds would hold that force.  We had a building with 28 anchor cage supports that came down. Engineering said that 3 cages failed, the rest were brought down by the shock load. and that bridge is 1000 times heavier over a larger span with less support!
Memcorio
2 ups, 8mo
You present a fair and reasonable perspective on the arc and severed cables. The only reason I would not buy it upon first glance is no visible blue tint, sparks or flash to indicate electrical severed cable or box. Unfortunately I'm still having trouble with the time span collapse and the convenience of the severed sectionals of structural.



But, I guess for me...the nature of this so called incident is FAR too convenient, given our global economical and geopolitical situation in the west.
AmericanViking
2 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
Yes, the Ship Making a Hard Right Turn Directly into the Beam Was an “Accident” 👌
dogepadre0717
3 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
To be honest, probably! The ship lost power a number of times before hitting the bridge. No steering no propulsion. That ship has a lengthy list of needed repairs and fines for not being seaworthy!
AmericanViking
2 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
I'm not ruling out anything, but at this point... it just seems like there are too many "accidents" happening...
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ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
dogepadre0717
2 ups, 8mo, 2 replies
Hey, I admit I am a conspiracy theorist! But I am batting about .856!
AmericanViking
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
Intelligence agencies are saying act of terrorism... why was everyone else so quick to exclude that?
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo, 1 reply
I do not see any reports on any credible news feeds!
AmericanViking
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
Yes... the problem is they were all so quick to exclude it...  before any investigations, despite a lot of sources in the intelligence community saying otherwise.
AmericanViking
1 up, 8mo
They could have said we can't rule out anything at this time...
ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
Have you heard the conspiracy theory that a jetski cant turn if it is off, with no propulsion?
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo, 1 reply
A jet ski is direct drive. I can not speak on this exact ship. However a vast majority of these ships are piloted by GPS and Auto Pilot...no physical connection to the steering! Steer by wire! If the power went out the GPS would pick back up with the last input and when it came back on would try to correct itself.
ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
Propulsion...no propulsion no sterring
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo, 5 replies
So what is your point? Because it is really starting to sound like you agree with me but are wording yourself horribly!
ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
Well consodering you have no clue of how a port operates....i will leave you with this one piece of logic to wrestle with......if the autopilot were to kick in....but there is no engine to generate the thrust...how would it steer?  It doesnt.  Therefore the captian ordered to drop the anchor to attempt to stop....have fun out there.
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo
When a container ship is running under low idle load (like when leaving port or maneuvering through a channel or under a bridge) they run their electrical systems off a generator not the alternator on the diesel! So just because they lost power does not mean they lost propulsion!
ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
You obviously should be a port captain...you could have saved the bridge!!!  Rotflmao!!!
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo
Why? Because I have built both gasoline and diesel engines and understand basic engineering and mechanical principals?
ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo
You have the internet do a basic google search!



No thanks.  I understand powerplants, and Auxillary supplies.



You keep to your conspiracies....perhaps AV has some insight.  I hear he has access to intellengence that the public doesnt....



Rotflmao
ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
"So just because they lost power does not mean they lost propulsion!"



That is litterally what it means!!



You can have the elctronics running you want...if no engine.....no go!!!
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo
You never heard of a back up generator? When the engine is running at low idle it doesn't have enough rpm to power the ship off the alternator! So they turn off the charging system from the propulsion system and turn on a back up generator to run the ships navigation and lights!
ParadiseLost
0 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
You are using ideal situations.  Obviously what you are explaining COULD NOT BE PERFORMED.  You should have been there so you could have fixed the power plant.... 



Have fun.
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo
No one could have diagnosed and fixed the issue in that short of time. I am not using Ideal anything! I am saying that is the way large container ships work! You have the internet do a basic google search!
Mrs_Faustus
0 ups, 8mo, 2 replies
As if anyone would unironically say this
dogepadre0717
2 ups, 8mo, 1 reply
He did once say bridges are inherently racist!
Mrs_Faustus
0 ups, 8mo
Oh no, you see, he was talking about the auto industry
dogepadre0717
1 up, 8mo
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