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You make one hyper literal joke about literal… | SOME DUDE “SAYING EXACTLY DEMOCRATS!”; SOME DUDE CLAIMING IT’S BIDEN WHOSE THE FACIST; SOME DUDE FOR SOME REASON MAKING IT ABOUT DEI; ME WHO WAS JUST TROLLING BY BEING HYPER LITERAL. SOME DUDE QUOTING ORWELL LIKE THE BIBLE DESPITE ORWELL BEING A SOCIALIST. SOME DUDE “TRUMP WAS ONLY JOKING HE WASN’T SERIOUS ABOUT BEING A DICTATOR!” | image tagged in alastor surrounded by vox,hazbin hotel,politics,maga,fascism | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Who said George Orwell was a socialist? 🤣🤣
He was an outright counter-revolutionary snitch, spying on leftists on behalf of the imperialist British government.
Just look up Orwell's list on google.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/orwell-s-little-list-leaves-the-left-gasping-for-more-1328633.html
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That list refers to leftists he didn’t trust. As during his middle age and later years a lot of left movements or totalitarian movements pretending to be left like stalinists….had a habit of killing other leftists.

Orwell himself is a self declared socialist and many of his writings are pro socialism but anti totalitarian.

I’m not gonna say he didn’t make mistakes or was a perfect lefty by any stretch. But the point is that they are quoting a lefty religiously despite the fact they DESPISE anything even remotely left of them including “moderates”
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Oomphie, anyone giving up their comrades on the left is a traitor to the cause. He was a trotskyite and a raging anti-communist. He claimed himself to be anti-authoritarian yet colluded with imperialist Britain. Throughout most of his literary career he dedicated denouncing/"satirizing" Marxism-Leninism which is core value of communism. (https://www.greanvillepost.com/2020/01/21/orwells-1984-is-a-paranoid-piece-of-anti-communist-propaganda/)

Also lets not forget he review Mein Kampf and admitted that he did not dislike Hitler and felt that Hitler, "can't win, and yet that he somehow deserves to." (https://redsails.org/on-orwell/)
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Also the Greanville post is known to post a lot of conspiracies and pseudo science so not really sure why you cited an op Ed on a piece of literature widely to be accepted as anti totalitarian and not strictly anti communist. Even his most anti communist work animal farm wasn’t a warning against communism but the likes of napoleon (stalin) who hijack populist movements to acquire power.

As for red sails i can’t even find a media bias report on them is that like a lefty/tanky 4 Chan? Or at least that’s vibes I got from that site.
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So not even denying the fact that he just gave up leftists and communists to the British Foreign Office. Cool
I wonder if you'd take Isaac Asimov's words on his review of 1984 then. https://www.newworker.org/ncptrory/1984.htm
My bad that I didn't link a right wing biased news article.
Here's a Washington Post article on Orwell's views on Mein Kampf:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/25/what-george-orwell-said-about-hitlers-mein-kampf/
Here's Orwell's list of people he suspected of being communists and "fellow-travellers": https://imgur.com/a/k13y8lv
Or the full artice on it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160305071504/http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2003/09/25/orwells-list/

I can go on but you are going to easily dismiss them as "conspiracies and pseudo science" because they don't come from mainstream media that you consume.
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Is this a darkingtoo jarlie or jiggly
Fly sock puppet account?
Like this is the kind of unhinged I’m used to seeing from the right wing.

I didn’t ask for a right wing source nor want one I was pointing out that Greanville posts some psuedo science and conspiracy theories and that your source was an op Ed.
I was hoping for something more reliable.

And once again I pointed out that Orwell made mistakes and wasn’t perfect but is considered thanks to his books a reliable teaching tool of the dangers of totalitarianism. And again animal farm widely regarded as his most anti communist book isn’t even anti communist it’s anti Stalinism/authortairanism.
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Yes, I'm clearly a sockpuppet account. You got me.

Downplaying Orwell's anti-communism is what reactionaries want, mate. As far as I know, he wasn't even well read in Marxism so obviously he would associate right wing totalitarianism with left wing authoritarianism.
We (in the global west) live under right wing authoritarianism it's just called neo-libertarian democracy. It's just capitalism under the rule of the bourgeoise, the capitalist class.
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He didn’t give them up though? It was a list he kept privately so that way he and his friends wouldn’t end up dead..because again back then leftists and fake leftists were betraying each other and killing each other in droves.

Again you are missing the point…
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You didn't even read any of the sources I linked, did you?
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Champ…scroll up..
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