I mean, what has happened to Palestinian citizens was a holocaust of its own.

So do you want a second Nakba?

700,000 citizens were forced to leave Palestine in 1948

They were told to leave by the invading Arab nations, Israel vocally asked them to stay.

Someone goes into your land without permission. You try to get them out. A war starts putting your family in danger. You try to evade your family from the chaos the other person started. That person asks you and your family to stay. Does that really make a difference?

How did the Jews start the Arab wars of aggression?

by going into the country that isn't theirs

Palestine wasn’t a country, hell it still isn’t.

well they still went into a place that wasn't theirs. Even if its your religion other people should not be affected by what you believe.

The Jews were there thousands of years before the Arabs, Also if you don’t believe that others should be affected by one’s religion than why do you support the Islamic terror group other the first world democracy?

The Jews literally went into Palestine, conquered the land, and suppressed the people and citizens of Palestine for years. Now they fight back, and people are angry?

Ah yes, Invading Israel on one Judaisms holiest days and murdering over 1500 people is “fighting back” ya’ll are as transparent as glass.

And yet you're amazingly unconcerned, in denial, in fact, that in the place that is responsible for the existence of Israel, anti-Semitism is on the rise. And I don't mean somebody drawing swastikas on the street in front of the synagogue late at night, talking somewhat slightly more severe a lot.

Israel doesn't exist despite the Palestinians, it exists so Jews won't get exterminated by the Europeans who were trying to do so for 2000 years and almost succeeded in the 1940s. And that sentiment is on the rise. Why is this so difficult the process? Does this not matter to you?

Where are they going to escape to next time, Kenya? They sure can't go to the Middle East to escape the next time they get Inquisitioned or Pogramed out of a European country like they used to. That option got canceled when did they decided to get revenge against the European oppressors and murderers by taking it out on their Semitic brethren in the Middle East.

I don't agree with how the terrorists handled things but Isreal is not really in the right either

Every civilian death in war is a tragedy but to disregard the lives of over 1500 people over things that happened nearly 80 years ago is incredibly scummy.

the 1500 Jews that died is anything to the 15000 Palestinians that died in 1948?

or the 700,000 forced out of their homes

No, they were not. And in addition to that they've been gone for two thousand years.

"other the first world democracy?" ?

I meant to say over rather than other, also yes they were. They had first settled there about 4000 years ago.

Yeah, um, no.

Yes, it was. And it still is, that's why Israel maintains it that way. They sure ain't going to give those people citizenship, because they'll end up simply voting Israel out of existence in a couple of decades.

Actually all of the Arabs that stayed in Israel got citizenship.

"stayed"

Yet no right of return for those who were forced out of their homes during the wars.
You know why? I mean other than other people - Eastern European people - occupying those homes?

More than half the population of Jordan are Palestinians that were forced out of their homes back then. Right now the entire Gaza Strip is being forced out of their homes, section by section. Because there's some underground tunnels under a hospital somewhere that Netanyahu is going to have his soldiers go shoot up the terrorists hiding in them one day on a day that is not yet today. But hey, he had a whole year to prepare for this, so I guess he knows what he's doing, right? He didn't sacrifice his own people for nothing, that man has a plan.

btw, Israeli Arabs aren't exactly treated as equal citizens, not even second class citizens (that would be the Sephardim), not even third class (that would be the Ethiopians). Want to know what it's like to have electricity turned off at dusk as well as your water? Go live in the Arab section of Jerusalem to find out. Want to know what it's like to get stopped, frisked, and ID'd all the time for just simply walking down the street shopping, working, walking? Want to take a guess who does know?

They look pretty damn similar, that’s because they have the same quality of life.

And?

Because "Never again" isn't the sole propriety of one group.

It's a perennial question that has always nagged since WWII. Why didn't they fight back? Why did they let themselves get boarded on trains and sent to the concentration camps without trying to fight back even as they were being marched to their own death?

And you're wondering why some people dare fight back against their oppressors? The same people who use their own near complete genocide as an excuse to do the same to others? Others who were not involved, mind you?

You make excuses for the very Europeans that wanted to exterminate them. Do you know what extermination entails? Yet you condemn the people that had nothing to do with that two millennia span of history, the very people that booted them out of their own land, the very people responsible for the diaspora, the very people that stole their God, the very people that tried to erase them. Do you not see why you're not convincing anybody with this bogus facsimile of an argument?

Hypocrisy does not make for convincing logic.

The Palestinian population has been rapidly growing since 1948.

So has the entire planet. What's your point?

Wrong, most of Eastern Europe and Japan have have decreasing population.

Western* Europe.

And that's lately. Not since 1948.
Their populations have not been shrinking since 1948. Frick, there's currently 8 billion people in the world. There was 2.5 in 1948.

But at least now you know why Israel won't offer the right of return. In fact, the lower birth rates of Ashkenazis is the only reason why they started treating Sephardics better, because they had no choice, option 3 was a little less to get liking.