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..but my preacher said that Gods love is unconditional. (he never provided a bible passage though)

But anyways, isnt having to make the correct choices a consecutive set of conditions?
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Leaving at simply unconditional, with respect, is a lie. He does love us, which is what led Him to the sacrifice upon the cross giving us the option of living forever with Him. He is also righteous and cannot tolerate unrighteousness near Him. "What shall we say? Shall we continue to sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead in sin, love any longer therein?" Rom. 6:1-2
Many modern churches have become apostate. They are being increasingly conformed to the world. The accepting and celebration of actions deemed sinful helps nobody. It, instead, harms people by lieing to them. If God was "just" love, there would have been no need for the death of Jesus upon the cross. John 14:15 says, "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." Many fool themselves by saying they love Jesus but don't keep His commandments. We were all created free to do what we want in this life. God designed life that way. When our choices go against His standards and we believe He is just fine with that, we fool ourselves. Each of us is allowed the option of loving whoever we want to love, to do whatever we want to do. Steal, lie, cheat, hate, even to murder.The Bible tells us the consequences of our actions are not up to us. Jesus death doesn't give us carte blanche to go against His standards and enjoy His rewards. I am fully on board with each person living how they want to live. I cannot lie to them so they are not uncomfortable on their way to hell
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Agreed, I do appreciate when people become a little uncomfortable and fearful when talking about hell and death. Its healthy to fear death and hell; thats what keeps ppl in line—in fact its the only thing, really.
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Currently, anything other than celebrating choices and telling people that whatever they want to do is Great is described as hatred. If I hated people I would leave them to where their choices were leading them without warning them. The Bible tells us that not everyone will make it into heaven. Clearly this points to something beyond just love. In one passage, Jesus says He will be telling people on judgement day that claim all the things they did for Him, to depart from Him for He never knew them. I don't know who will listen and after understanding, turn away from their sins. It's not my job to decide that. My job to share the message that saved me in order to tell others of that option.
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True, the bible tells us that very few (1/4) of even those who hear the gospel will make it to heaven—if we follow the pattern of the sower and the seed. And then I think that would even be cut in half (to 1/8) if we apply the virgin parable of those true believers who appropriately knew Jesus and waited for the wedding feast—half of them fell away at the end.
Still, theres multitudes of true believers without number, but the vast majority goes to hell.
Thats okay im not one for large crowds anyways. :)

Concerning love, I don't believe it goes 'beyond love' for God to send his enemies to hell.
On the contrary, I would argue that it is *because of* God's Love for His children that demands retribution against those who have mistreated and opposed them and His Son for so long.

Therefore even as Gods vengeance aggressively devastates the wicked in torment for ever and ever, it is largely because of His LOVE for his people that all sinners and evildoers be kept securely in a wrathful abyss of Gods choosing—unable to ever again harm His little ones, or dishonor his holy name. A loving God and Father would be expected to do such a thing.

This is why trusting in a Good God, we have the hope of David:
[Psa 10:4-5] 4 The wicked are too proud to seek God. They seem to think that God is dead. 5 Yet they succeed in everything they do. THEY DO NOT SEE THEIR PUNISHMENT AWAITING THEM.

Psa 37:12-13 NLT - 12 The wicked plot against the godly; they snarl at them in defiance. 13 But the Lord just laughs, for he sees their day of judgment coming.
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And we can't know which will be true believers at the finish line. Saul of Tarsus was a leader in persecuting Christians who became a leading voice for the advancement of Christianity. The Bible tells us that the blood of lost will be upon us unless we warn them. We are the watchmen upon the city walls warning the inhabitants of their peril. It's up to the inhabitants to heed the warning or ignore it. Then it is upon them. Since about the year 2000 AD, many Muslims have experienced visions of Jesus Christ telling them to follow Him. I honestly believe we are nearing the beginning of the pouring out of the wrath of God. This is the reason for posting about the 7 vials. The world needs to read what awaits them if it remains in rebellion to God.
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You are right about the vials being poured out. Its hard to say exactly when the end comes, since the 'a thousand years is like a day' to God, so when Jesus says he's coming 'soon' it could be a few days/thousand years, lol.

Saul was a real persecutor, but he was only forgiven because he did it in ignorance, not knowing what he did.

1Ti 1:13 NLT - 13 even though I used to blaspheme the name of Christ. In my insolence, I persecuted his people. But God had mercy on me because I did it in ignorance and unbelief.

Like Jesus said, the Father forgives those who 'know not what they do'.
Conversely, those who willfuly defy God like many of the Jews and Gentiles did have no forgiveness.

Mat 27:25 NLT - 25 And all the people yelled back, "We will take responsibility for his death--we and our children!"

So, the only thing we can do as believers is to 'walk circumspectly' and judge ourselves and others within the church—not hearts but actions.
The bible makes it clear that, although many who DO good works may still be damned, we cannot judge their motives, whether they be evil or not (God only knows that, and He will judge that). If people are doing good deeds in the church, they are to be considered saints.

However, we are to judge outwardly, and discipline or excom any professed believers who live in open sin and refuse to repent. We are 'not even to eat with them' (fellowship meals) meaning that Paul kicked people out of the church for being sinners.
Compare that to nowadays, and the modern gospel message is such that these 'preachers' ONLY allow sinners into their churches, and openly call everyone in their congregation a sinner; and anyone who professes to be a 'saint' (following scripture) is labelled a pharisee and has their membership revoked, lol.

1Co 14:33 NKJV - 33 For God is not [the author] of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. (never once called a church of 'sinners')

How can any church scripturally have a membership roll anyways? Seriously, they run those places like satanic country clubs, where only those who are rich and continually profess to be sinners are allowed to stay.
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but woundnt you evenulaly get used to it like in a hot tub
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"Staying in your hot tub too long can result in dizziness, light-headedness, overheating and dehydration, especially if you're soaking at a higher temperature. It can also cause burns, decrease in blood pressure, increased heart rate, nausea and vomiting" - JacuzzICharlotte

My guess is all those symptoms would be exponentially worse if youre lounging in lava non-stop for a few thousand, or million, years.
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You mean the the place called, "the lake of fire"??
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