Of course you could say they won't allow voter ID laws because then they can't cheat.

Needs a BIG "D" on "democrats".

I've never seen any evidence that there's a real problem, with fraud by ineligible voters. Kris Kobach had to quietly retire a commission on the subject, under Trump - because there was no evidence of it happening. By contrast, the Interstate Crosscheck program that he created, demonstrably disenfranchised eligible voters - until the Courts intervened, to end it. People with common last names were being called felons, and kicked off the rolls, falsely.

American Elections are stolen, using the fractional vote counting software from the DRE machines and the Tabulators at the County level. https://blackboxvoting.org/proof-of-fraud/

Mail-in ballots are also likely vectors for fraud. Mass mail-in balloting is clearly problematic, as the sensitivity on the machine that reads the signatures on the backs of the envelopes can cranked down to accept anything. And we all saw video from Georgia in 2020, of a box of tightly stacked, apparently unfolded ballots, coming out from under a table, once the observers were sent home... But Georgia is a State with Voter ID laws in place, already. It didn't help.

Huston vs Hill is a case that says it explicitly. There's no law requiring Americans to have an ID, or produce it on demand. It even went further and declared that to be the hallmarks of a "Police State".

Sadly, IDs and Social Security Numbers mark most Americans as property, and collateral upon the Federal debt. That's why I made mine, private property of my own, back in the Spring of 2001 - and I now don't care to have an ID.

But I do have the RIGHT to be an Elector of my State. And since my County Registrar-Recorder has evidence of my nativity, and a copy of my signature - no ID is needed. Were one to be required, it would be an impediment to the exercise of my right to cast a ballot, at least for me, and Americans like me.

Simple math to prove voter fraud:

In 2004 approx 122 million people voted.

In 2008 approx 130 million people voted

In 2012 approx 126 million people voted

In 2016 approx 129 million people voted

In 2020 approx 155 million people voted

No way is it possible we added 25 million voters in one election cycle.
Based on the increase of voters in every election in our history, this is statistically IMPOSSIBLE.

Well, again - everyone in 2020 was mailed a ballot, to their homes, without even asking. So that may have facilitated people's ease in casting a ballot. OR - it may reflect wide scale election theft, by 'Mules' and ballot harvesters, and caregivers for the elderly and infirm... Or - playing devil's advocate - it might reflect people really motivated to vote in that election - one way or the other. And the negatives on both candidates did seem to be exceptionally high - and that's a strong motivation for some people - keeping X from winning an election.

Historically, our voter turnout in this country hovers in the 50% range, amongst those registered to vote. Those who are unregistered, and those who don't vote are consistently in the majority.

So by all means - let's END the practice of mailing ballots to everyone who's registered - without a prior request sent, in writing, and without a verified signature. That can cure the problem from 2020... But not the problems seen in 2000, 2004, and 2016, pretty clearly.

I agree with you that our elections are insecure and rife with Election Theft. I simply disagree that going to a Nationwide ID-check program would correct any of the ways that our Elections have been verifiably stolen.

And it feeds right into AgendaID2020, as well...so there's that.

Switching to hand counted paper ballots - not mass distributed, without request - would go a long ways towards fixing the problems that we've been seeing.

Yes... statistically impossible...

I'm not a stats guy... But I'd say that it may be improbable or unlikely - but not "impossible". One or more standard deviations from the mean, etc. - perhaps even a six-sigma (+) event, as Ed Dowd refers to it, in regard to the huge spike in All cause mortality. But we know such things are possible - because the bodies are being counted. Statistically significant and abnormal, granted. But as with the 2020 and 2022 elections - a new element was added to the equation - the jabs in the one instance, and mass printed untraceable ballots in the other.

There's no significant evidence of undocumented people voting in our Elections - or Kris Kobach and Trump would have shown it to us all.

Aside from that - both parties have ways of disenfranchising voters and stealing elections. The barrier of needing an ID can be one of them, for the hardworking poor and the elderly, particularly...and stats say that includes a disproportionate number of PoC folks, for what it's worth, though I'm not harping on that element. I'm white and I just don't want (false) evidence that THE STATE owns me, to exist.

That's just one of the simpler stats... There are more that back up that one too...

Ok. I'm with you on 2020 being stolen.

I'm even of the strong suspicion that 2022 was rigged to keep the Senate from flipping, as well... But I don't think that it was undocumented migrants and non-citizens that are responsible.

Personally I'd like to KNOW that my votes for Jesse Ventura, Cynthia McKinney, Jill Stein, or Leonard Peltier and Mumia Abu Jamal, are all being counted properly - and not just being flipped into Biden or Newscum votes... And that goes all the way down to the tight races for Dog Catcher.

I'd like to extend my hand in friendship and comity to you, to help fix our country's REAL problems with election theft. Until I see a statistically significant trend of non-Nationals voting here - the ID isn't going to be the focus for me, or what I think needs to be fixed.

IN FACT - I would encourage you, and others, to join me by announcing yourselves as Article 4 Citizens, and rejecting the 14th Amendment "citizenship" status - that comes part and parcel with your IDs.

Yes... did you see the Biden voter who runs an organization watching Google on Jimmy Dore?

I didn't watch it yet (I'm actually very behind in my Dore watching - watching the streams works best for me, but they fixed the glitch in Rumble that let me pause and rewind) but saw that it exists. I will do it .. but not now, my phone about to die.

The guy can't stand Trump, but what he uncovered about Google is really bad...

I just saw it. Yeah, a brave honorable 'liberal' - willing to do the right thing, and attack one of the CIA's web platforms.

One of the problems I have with Trump is his tendency to be divisive, deliberately. I appreciate Bobby Jr.'s demeanor and approach, much more - even when I disagree with him.