Oh well I guess I don't exist (based on true story)

Relatable: I am a Christian and a Progressive. I might be more right leaning with my Christian views but I certainly support the LGBTIQA+ community (completely) and abortion (to a great extent).

P.S. Jesus was a liberal

What are your thoughts on abortion and LGBT?

both to an extent. abortion should be if mothers need it since they are so poor,will kill them,will come oute dead anyway, but not if the mom is a s**t. and lgbt is fine just not they them

And you're a Christian? Just double checking.

God doesn't judge if you are Christian based on your political views, he judges whether you have a relationship with him

True. But your political beliefs can affect a relationship with him.

Do you have any bible verses that show that?

I'm talking about political beliefs that are in conflict with what Christianity teaches, namely LGBTQ and abortion (which I didn't bring up earlier. What they said seems just, but it's still murder). If you're an LGBTQ influencer, encouraging what the bible says not to do numerous times, that would affect a relationship with him. This should be common sense. But if you really want a bible verse, the best I can do is Romans 11:22.

Now, other political beliefs that the church / bible doesn't touch on and leaves to the discernment of the state don't affect a relationship with him.

Thank you for your bible verse. Let's get into context.

This is nothing to do with politics. This is just to do with how we have a relationship with God and whether we drift away from God. But yes, while people do sin everyday, Christians however get forgiven for their sins.

It all depends on how you have your relationship with God. While I may support the LGBTIQA+ community, I myself don't have to be gay myself. Being trans isn't a sin because sex and gender is different. But if this means you'd believe that having a gender is a "sin", then I guess you'd have to be agender (generally meaning that they have no gender). I remember a conservative telling me that gender is "a made up thing".

So if someone was born intersex, does this mean they cannot join God's kingdom because they're LGBTQIA2S?

Transgenderism and homosexuality are different in the eyes of god.

Homosexuality is an offense against God. So if one supports LGBTQ, why are they supporting an organization which encourages things against God's will? Or should one support the person but not the sin? (Which I believe is homophobic)

Transgenderism isn't called out specifically in the bible, but it's not good. It's an illogical social construct. If sex and gender are different, then why do people want union between the two? They shouldn't have to mutilate themselves if they're different. Anyways, transgender isn't black and white, and I'm getting sidetracked.

I think this article sums up the Christian attitude toward LGBTQ pretty well: read it if you want. https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/gender-confusion-the-unforeseen-offspring-of-contraception

If someone was born intersex, that's a lot different than someone mutilating themselves to become the other sex. So yes, they can go into God's kingdom. They literally can't help it as they have no choice.

"Transgenderism and homosexuality are different in the eyes of god.

Homosexuality is an offense against God. So if one supports LGBTQ, why are they supporting an organization which encourages things against God's will? Or should one support the person but not the sin? (Which I believe is homophobic)"

I know being in a same-sex relationship was definitely a sin in the old covenant, but yes the new testament mentioned about us Christians not supposed to be gay, but I'm wondering if any bible verses say that this rule is still in place in the new covenant.

But at the end of the day, whether it is still a sin or not to be gay, I might not be gay myself as a Christian, but I cannot force someone not to be gay because it is simply a human right for someone to have a right to be married to anyone regardless of their sex.

This meant that if an intersex person were to be in a relationship with a male or female (I'm talking about sex here), its not considered heterosexual. If an intersex person were to be in a sexual relationship with someone the same gender (if they chose to be male or female, which they're not transgender either way), they'd be considered gay.

"Transgenderism isn't called out specifically in the bible, but it's not good. It's an illogical social construct. If sex and gender are different, then why do people want union between the two? They shouldn't have to mutilate themselves if they're different. Anyways, transgender isn't black and white, and I'm getting sidetracked."

The bible never said that there were only two genders, the bible just said in Genesis 1:27 that "So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them." That's to do with sex. Gender wasn't even invented until 1955 by John Money, which he even said that there is more than two genders.

https://www.ubcpress.ca/the-man-who-invented-gender
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/the-story-of-john-money-controversial-sexologist-grappled-with-the-concept-of-gender-1.31

"I think this article sums up the Christian attitude toward LGBTQ pretty well: read it if you want. https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/gender-confusion-the-unforeseen-offspring-of-contraception"

I guess that is a similar idea to what the evangelical church believe but this site you sent me is what traditional catholics believe. 44% of catholics lean or side with the Democrats, compared to 37% of catholics with the GOP.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/religious-tradition/catholic/party-affiliation/

"If someone was born intersex, that's a lot different than someone mutilating themselves to become the other sex."

I think you're confused with the difference between sex and gender. People don't change sex because sex is who you're born as. However people can change their gender because gender is simply what you identify as.

"So yes, they can go into God's kingdom. They literally can't help it as they have no choice."

Yet some conservatives claim they have a "birth defect", when they're born as normal as anything.

yes. The reason im not against it is because I have no control over it and someone elses actions are not my problem

But shouldn't we let them know it's not God's will?

Cool I'll do bottom I guess