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Lol, christians believe humans were built weak and flawed--you know, in the image of god--so they need sticks and carrots to conduct themselves in a civil manner.

Whenever a Christian complains that gay marriage will lead to marrying sheep, they're tipping their hand that that's what THEY would do if left to their own devices.

It's a good thing religion exists because without the threat of infinite punishment, many of its followers would be running amok. To each their ownI suppose...if only evangelists would get the memo that not everyone is as broken in the head as they are.

As a Catholic (so somewhat christian), kind of offensive.

Disclaimer: The comment above is a reflection solely of the person who made it and not of the people it references. Which is to say, it's the demented ravings of a purile asshole. 😖

Lol. Welp that escalated quickly.

I don't feel like arguing, so imma leave this convo

Ah frak, I meant that in reference to MY comment, not yours. My fight is with myself, not you. I apologize for sticking my foot in my mouth. I hate that I've disrespected you. I'm sorry, I really need to think about what I say before I say it.

Oh ok I'm still gonna leave the convo because there is nothing else to say

Major is cool, don't worry he means well.

Why are people still commenting on this lemme get some sleep

Don't let us keep you from your beauty rest, turn the phone off and catch some zzz's

Wow your calling him cool? He's a piece of crap! He likes to criticize memes and stuff and criticized mine(comment got deleted) and someone else's!

We all make mistakes, we're all human, to err is human to forgive is divine. Maybe someday you'll understand that. You just now called someone you barely know a piece of crap. Criticism is fine but name calling is rather immature.

True.

I'd paste the meme you spammed all over the place telling someone to delete their post, but instead I'll hold a mirror to something else you did and say "stop criticizing too much pal". I also won't delete your comment, paste it in other streams, or block you so you can't comment on it further.

For real bruh?

I wear many hats, and the majority of them cover a largely ornamental cranium. 😵‍💫
For what it's worth, I'm disappointed and frustrated by this version of me too.

My religion teacher taught me that God wants us to follow the human law, but when necessary, follow His law.

Yes both are related. Human laws like don't commit homicide or rob banks are based on God's laws like the 10 commandments. Most societies with any morals inadvertently follow most of the commandments. If they didn't they would be anarchy and just self destruct.

It only takes a few bad eggs to spoil the coop.

Did I get that aphorism right? I think it might have been about grapes or something. 😜

If a wife cooked a meal for her husband becuase he would beat her up if she didn't would you call this an ideal relationship or not? Would it be a marriage based on love or manipulation? The same applies to our relationship to God. We are promised heaven and the joys of being with our creator forever and that should be our focus, those who try to obey commandments out of fear are not understanding the relashionship. Anyone preaching only fire and brimstone is a false messenger.

The problem is that we basically need that threat of hell or reward of heaven to do good things a lot of the time.

Do we really though? There are plenty of atheists who live "good" lives in terms of not raping, stealing, murdering, lying, etc. I'm not convinced there's a correlation between personal theistic views and proper moral conduct. There are plenty of good and bad actors on both sides of that equation.

Why would an atheist not commit those crimes? Is it fear of being arrested, marring their reputation, wrinkling their favorite slacks? I think humans in general base most of their decisions on rewards and punishments before any moral certitude or understanding of the benefits or risks those actions might have on their immortal soul (If they believe in a soul)

Well, many humans. Perhaps most humans, irrespective of their orientation towards spiritually.

Moral law is written in every human heart, no baby is born a serial killer or pathological liar. These behaviors are learned and formed by the corruption of those who learned them athiest or believer, if you're living morally chances are it's becuase you learned it from those around you who kept their childhood innocence.

I agree 100%. It appeals to my deviant sensibilities that I'm faaaar from innocent yet somewhat self-taught. My family is amazing but they're not innocent either...

Well, my mom is a saint. I've NEVER seen her angry, and only once seen her sad. Her dad was a prick who cheated on and divorced her mom when she (my mom) was 13. (Side note: that grandfather ended up being a sweet kind gentle man for my entire life, and the relative after which I took most strongly both physically and mentally.)

Mom was a middle school teacher. I don't even have words. Many people have told me that she's exceptional, I gather in ways I am unable to fully appreciate, since she's the only mom I've had.

But as corrupt as my mind is, my heart is compassionate and I have an insane adherence to my own moral code, sometimes to my detriment.

Chaotic-Good for life!

It means we haven't matured spiritually. A todler will obey the parents because of the threat of time out or losing a toy, an older child obeys the parents becuase they love the parent and trust what they have to say is the best for them. Depends on if you're at the toddler stage of your relashionship with God and avoid being bad so you don't get punished or you actually love God and understand He wants what's best for you.

I’m a Christian and do good things because I WANT to not because I think I need to. Also all the memes in this stream are trash

Well shitting on things you don't like certainly qualifies as good. Exemplary xtian behavior. Keep up the good work! 👏