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2 genders
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Ever heard of intersex, dipshit?
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What is intersex?
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Yep and that's exactly how I know you smartass conservatives don't know a thing about science. (Unless you aren't on their side, in which case please excuse my comment) Sex isn't binary. Chromosomes can mix and cause combinations like XXY and XYY, or even people with XY chromosomes who were born with female genitalia and vice versa. And no, it's not some ultra rare phenomenon "gotcha" for the politicians. Being intersex is about as common as having ginger hair. You want to complain about trans kids who go on hormones at sixteen with therapy and precautions? How about you instead focus on the legality of a newborn intersex child getting "correctional surgery" to change their genitals FROM BIRTH.
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Thank you for your insult.

However, you didn't answer the question:

What is intersex?
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I LITERALLY JUST TOLD YOU WHAT INTERSEX IS
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A ginger? I did not know that. Gotta rethink my affinity for red heads
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Ouch, that's insulting.

Why are you so angry?

Are you unable to state in one clear and concise sentence what intersex is/means?
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Seriously, what is intersex....explain it to me as if I were a simpleton.
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Ok you're right, I'm sorry.
So there are two sexes, right? Male (XY) and Female (XX), and these two sexes are necessary for procreation and make up the vast majority of the world population. However, it isn't exactly black and white. In the womb, every fetus technically starts out female, and will usually either stay female or turn male. However sometimes there are complications that happen during pregnancy that affect either the chromosomes or genitilia of the fetus, and this is what I mean by intersex. Chromosome sets of 3 like XXY can happen along with many more combinations. It can also mean that somebody who appears to be female as a child may have XY chromosomes which cause complications during puberty (ex never growing breasts) and this also happens vice versa for males.

Basically, when a person has chromosomes other than XX or XY, or their genitals appear different from their chromosomes, that's intersex.

What I meant with the ginger thing is that the chances of being intersex are just about a common as having red hair. Hope that helps, and I'm sorry for lashing out. Very rough week.

If you have more questions I'm happy to answer 💖
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Ok. Thank you.

Basically, intersexed people are some aberration, or more politely, combination, of the male and female chromosomes.

Do you suggest that they are a "third sex" or "third gender"?

Or do you suggest they are either male or female and any gender surgery should be deferred until they are mature/young adults and decide for themselves?

Do you think the medical/physical/psychological issues that intersexed people face are the same as, similar to, or unrelated to, the "transgender" ideology popular today?

Don't get upset by the questions. Just seeking your viewpoint.
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Yes, responding to your last comment (the thread reached it's reply limit)

I definitely wouldn't say third sex/gender because there are so many possible combinations of the chromosomal differences. My original point that I was trying to make is that gender couldn't possibly be binary if sex isn't binary to begin with.

Yes, I believe the gender correctional surgeries should be up to the intersex person when they can properly consent to something like that. Most probably wouldn't make the change because interestingly enough, there have been many many cases of intersex people later developing gender dysphoria after they've gotten the surgery as babies and the parents try to raise them as the opposite gender they were changed into. Like with that "XY girl" example I brought up earlier, if a parent tries to make her male because of her chromosomes even though she's born with female genitalia, it won't work out because she'll end up wanting to be female anyway/ There was even a Grey's Anatomy episode about this, although I don't remember the title. It's really difficult to explain so sorry if I'm rambling at all.

Some people think intersex and trans people have similar experiences for different reasons, while some neuroscience today suggest that they may have a common factor. There's a current theory that trans people ARE intersex and the reason they have such a disconnect with their birth sex is because in the womb excess levels or the opposite hormone were spoon fed to their brains or something?? Again, difficult to explain, but it does have a fair amount of evidence and explains a lot of things we didn't know before. We know now that the brain activity found in trans people resembles the brain of their preferred gender overwhelmingly more than their birth sex. Since intersex and transgender individuals both have unusual things happening to them in the womb with hormones, people are starting to connect the dots and suggest that trans people may be technically intersex. However the communities don't really want to merge because of other complications I don't really have the time to get into right now (not all intersex people ID as trans) but I hope you get the picture.

One more thing: I noticed you described the transgender Ideology as "popular today", but there are historical counts of those who fit the definition of transgender even though the term didn't exist then. Ex: https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-transgender-people
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Did u just make that up
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The following is all opinion:

I disagree that gender is not binary.

There are two sexes/genders - male and female, and that the terms sex and gender are so intertwined as to call them synonymous.

Behaving and dressing as a man or woman does not change one's sex/gender.

Intersex, if I understand correctly, is a chromosomal glitch allowing only partial development from the fetal female to the male, physically. This includes structurally and hormonally.

Any "Am I a man or a woman" issues an intersexed person has are understandable. After puberty they can choose which sex/gender they feel best suits them and may seek surgery to enhance presentation befitting their choice.

I agree that cross dressers have always existed. However, the concept that they have changed genders because they choose to wear the garb of the opposite sex seems newly contrived.

I believe the current ideology is rooted more in attention seeking behavior than any dysphoria. Those not seeking attention are likely struggling with their sexuality and the ideation that they are the opposite sex/gender is a coping mechanism.

While it may be the desire of the individual to "transition", it is not a reality.
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