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then you realize that either nothing created everything or something created everything and your view falls apart

No scientists believe nothing created everything, it is consensus that the early universe existed in a hot, dense state before the big bang brought the universe into existence through cosmic inflation.

where did that dense state come from, like what created that

There are some theories but nothing supported by enough evidence right now.

so then why are you trying to tell me what actually happened if you aren't even 100% sure its true.

whats more logical: Nothing made a big bang and created everything.. or Somthing created everything... If your friend asked you how a car was made, are you going to say "nothing created it, it just popped into existence" or "oh, the guys at Honda created it"
The law of causality states "everything that had a begining had purpose" therefore the universe had a beginning so it has a purpose.

The Kalam goes, “we can observe that everything began to exist.”
Did you observe the beginning of the universe?
No.

did you observe the birth of you dad?
no. does that mean he doesn't exist?

Did you think my argument was supposed to suggest the universe doesn’t exist? Lmao

are you saying the universe doens't exist?

I’m saying we don’t know if it began to exist. As it is, the universe existed before the Big Bang in a hot, dense state where all energy and matter existed at one point.

It is literally a book of fairytales. Every myth in Genesis is obviously influenced by earlier ancient myths such as Enuma Elish, the Epic of Gilgamesh and the religion Zoroastrianism. It's all fiction.