And I'm willing to bet that conservatives previously said that whites were the "only normal" people

All conservatives aren’t white.

I see that racism is still alive, and doing well, amongst the leftists.

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(If you delete this meme/comment because it’s harassing another user, even though the name is redacted, then the featured meme should also be deleted for the same reason.)

“-I typed in ‘Media Bias The Hill’ and the first site said centrist, and I bet that’s where you stopped and shared the link with me.”

Here’s another link….

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/hill-media-bias

The Hill is considered centrist but if you absolutely had to side it between left or right, it’d be a tiny bit left leaning. But then again The Hill is much more balanced than CNN and The Guardian.

“But I didn’t stop there, and guess what?

I found three that said left leaning.”

Three opinion columnists

-A little left is still left.

-No. Three sites, not three opinion columnists.

I never even mentioned columnists, until now. If you can’t win an argument unless you twist around your opponent’s words, you still didn’t win.

"-A little left is still left."

So we can say that a little right is still right?

"-No. Three sites, not three opinion columnists.

I never even mentioned columnists, until now. If you can’t win an argument unless you twist around your opponent’s words, you still didn’t win."

I can show you what you're misinterpreting

-Yes. And since The Hill has 4 lefties and 3 righties, you’ve proven my point. They DO have a left bias.

-I am ‘misinterpreting’ nothing. I found 3 ‘media bias’ sites say that The Hill is either center-left or leans left. Therefore, you’re the one who’s ‘misinterpreting’ what I said.

"-Yes. And since The Hill has 4 lefties and 3 righties, you’ve proven my point. They DO have a left bias."

But you haven't seen the top part of the image. They're all opinion people. The Hill opinion section is centre-left.

"-I am ‘misinterpreting’ nothing. I found 3 ‘media bias’ sites say that The Hill is either center-left or leans left. Therefore, you’re the one who’s ‘misinterpreting’ what I said."

But you still haven't sent me the links

-But I have seen the top part of that image when I looked at the site. I also researched some of the senior members of The Hill. The CEO’s comments show a left-wing bias. Most members of management are left-wingers.

-I already gave you my search parameters. I’ve gone to each site and read MORE than the ‘headline’. While some say centrist, the needle still leans left on those sites. Other sites straight up say they are centre-left or left-leaning.

I’m not going to go back and copy each site’s link, and then tell you where to look on each site for the pertinent information. Either do it yourself (and get an education about US media bias) or STFU.

Just because the CEO or staff are liberal doesn't mean their work is biased. They can still remove bias, to which liberal bias is different to conservative bias. Liberal bias is generally through emotive language, whereas conservative bias is through conservative bias and conservative emotive language.

“conservative bias is through conservative bias”

Is there any other word-salad, double-talk you want to foist off as a real argument?

Liberal/Leftist owners and managers are far more likely to allow left biased commentary and to censor conservative commentary.

Even if it only happens on 1 of 10 stories, it’s still left-biased.

"Liberal/Leftist owners and managers are far more likely to allow left biased commentary and to censor conservative commentary."

Some right of centre sources also criticise the alt-right. Ben Shapiro is a critic of the alt-right himself and he's as right wing as anything.

"Even if it only happens on 1 of 10 stories, it’s still left-biased."

So by your logic for if there is 1 of 10 stories from another source, you'd say its right-biased

-I never said anything about criticism.

-Ben Shapiro isn’t as far-right as leftists claim he is.

-No, by my logic, if a site CENSORS left-wing stories, then it would be a right-biased site. I never said anything about sources.

-You never answered my question about your “conservative bias is through conservative bias” comment.

-I see you still need to put words in my mouth to win an argument. This time it was TWO different times in one comment.

-As I said before, if you need to twist my words around to win an argument, then you didn’t win.

"-I never said anything about criticism."

But the OP suggests that you said that "Liberal/Leftist owners and managers are far more likely to allow left biased commentary and to censor conservative commentary."

Censor conservative commentary meaning that Leftists/Liberals would criticise the alt-right and conservatism in general.

"-Ben Shapiro isn’t as far-right as leftists claim he is."

I never suggested that he's far-right. He's just right wing. In fact, wikipedia calls him a neoconservative

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#Notable_people_associated_with_neoconservatism

"-No, by my logic, if a site CENSORS left-wing stories, then it would be a right-biased site. I never said anything about sources."

When I said sources, I mean like media in general. I kept things generic.

"-You never answered my question about your “conservative bias is through conservative bias” comment."

I don't need to answer it.

"-I see you still need to put words in my mouth to win an argument. This time it was TWO different times in one comment.

-As I said before, if you need to twist my words around to win an argument, then you didn’t win."

No I'm not.

-Censor and criticize are two different things, therefore the OP suggestion is wrong.

-Since I said “isn’t as LEFTISTS claim he is”, then you aren’t included in that group, unless you are now admitting to being a leftist.

-Sources and stories and two different things, therefore your generalization is wrong.

-Why don’t you need to answer it? Is it because you looked foolish saying it and don’t want even more attention drawn to your mistake?

-As for your denial about twisting my words or putting words in my mouth, there are numerous examples (with screenshots) of you doing so, so quit lying.

"-Censor and criticize are two different things, therefore the OP suggestion is wrong."

Maybe. But here's something you might be interested...

Criticism is not the same thing as censorship, and evidence that the censors cannot bear the critics only encourages FIRE’s efforts to spread sunlight into every dark corner of academia.

They have a relationship to each other but aren't the same.

https://www.thefire.org/news/criticism-or-censorship

"-Since I said “isn’t as LEFTISTS claim he is”, then you aren’t included in that group, unless you are now admitting to being a leftist."

I'm no leftist, I'm a neoconservative.

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"-Sources and stories and two different things, therefore your generalization is wrong."

Of course, I said that "if there is 1 of 10 stories from another source, you'd say its right-biased"

Stories come from sources.

"-Why don’t you need to answer it? Is it because you looked foolish saying it and don’t want even more attention drawn to your mistake?

"-As for your denial about twisting my words or putting words in my mouth, there are numerous examples (with screenshots) of you doing so, so quit lying."

See image

-I love how you keep arguing my points by agreeing with them. We both said censorship and criticism aren’t the same, but I was the first one to say it.

-I said LEFTISTS claim he’s far-right. Show me where I called YOU a leftist.

-Which proves that stories and sources are NOT the same. A source can be completely unbiased, but the writer can shift the story left or right.

-Why do I need to “see image”? You’ve insinuated, assumed and outright altered what I’ve said multiple times just to try and win the argument. And when you were called out on it, you were backpedaling so hard that you could easily join a circus as a trick rider.

You haven't called me a leftist explicitly (yet).

But you implied that I did, which is just another way of try to win the debate without needing to use actual arguments, like you did when you:

-twisted the meaning of my words.
-added words I never said.
-claimed I did things that I did not.
-failed to answer my questions.

I won't delete this comment because this ain't even politicsToo. You're actually allowed to debate here.

And yes not all conservatives are white, but the majority of conservatives are white.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/racial-and-ethnic-composition/by/region/among/party-affiliation/republican-lean-rep/

Sorry, but I prefer sites without bias.

That means no Fox News because even the news section is partisan

I don’t watch any news outlet.

I do my own research using multiple sources.

But thanks for making false assumptions about me.

It means you need to make up shit to win arguments.

I just gave Fox News as an example.

Keep backpedaling.

It’s a good way to pretend you weren’t wrong.

Is that meant to insult me?

Really?

If I was going to insult you, I wouldn’t try to do it obliquely.

I would just call you whatever I want to call you and take my 2 day suspension, as usual.

2 days? With this stream, there's no record of you breaking ToS and the stream rules, however you may be a repeat offender but if you did insult me, then I'd start with a 2 hour comment ban, then progressively go up. But if a site mod saw this, then they'd probably do 24-48 hour ban. Repeated offenders of from this stream will get a permaban with both posting and commenting

Where did I say this stream?

A site/global mod can see flags from all streams, delete any comment on any stream and give suspensions for those infractions.

If tells a site/global mod personally about an insult of mine, you wouldn’t even know about the suspension unless you looked through the stream’s ban logs.

And I have a couple of stalkers who watch everything I say just so they can report me.

"Where did I say this stream?"

You didn't. But since I don't know your history, I'd give you a clean slate.

"A site/global mod can see flags from all streams, delete any comment on any stream and give suspensions for those infractions."

Even OlympianProduct knows about this stream, but he's quite right wing.

Me: Where did I say this stream?

You: You didn't. But since I don't know your history, I'd give you a clean slate.

-As I said before, keep backpedaling. It’s a good way to pretend you weren’t wrong.

Me: A site/global mod can see flags from all streams, delete any comment on any stream and give suspensions for those infractions."

You: Even OlympianProduct knows about this stream, but he's quite right wing.

-What does ‘OP knowing about this stream’ have to do with global mods seeing ALL flags from every stream? Of course he knows about the stream, as does EVERY global mod.

And OP isn’t “quite right wing”. He center-right at best.

"By RINO/Democrat definition, anyone right of center is a far-right wing-nut."

Inaccurate, only the hard-left I mean not the mainstream democrat supporter believe that everyone right of centre is a "far-right" nut.

I'm right of centre, Centre-Right to be precise.

"I see your still using left-biased sites."

Not left wing, centrist.

"And they’re getting more and more left biased as we progress."

They're only getting "biased" to your standards because you're getting more biased

-Even Elon Musk (a centrist) is now considered a right-winger because the left keeps moving father left, and then claiming that anybody who doesn’t go with them is a right-winger.

-The Hill is a left-biased site, and has been for years.

-My political views haven’t changed in years, so the only way they become more right-biased is by those moving farther left.

"-Even Elon Musk (a centrist) is now considered a right-winger because the left keeps moving father left, and then claiming that anybody who doesn’t go with them is a right-winger."

Musk is considered Right-Wing because he openly endorses DeSantis. And DeSantis is no RINO.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-ron-desantis-president-election-trump-rcna58804

"-The Hill is a left-biased site, and has been for years."

They actually have some right leaning people on The Hill, like John Feehery, Katie Pavlich, and David Webb.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-hill/

"-My political views haven’t changed in years, so the only way they become more right-biased is by those moving farther left."

There are some Far-Right people or even just right wing people that had their same views since at least 10 years ago, like Alex Jones

-Of course you would use an NBC link to call Elon a right-winger.

-Your site says The Hill is centrist, but three others say left leaning or left biased

-Since there are tons of lefties who have held the same views for many, many decades (like Racist Joe), your pitiful attempt at a rebuttal is rendered useless.

"-Of course you would use an NBC link to call Elon a right-winger.

Even Fox News says that Elon Musk endorses Ron DeSantis, but you'd have to search for the evidence specifcally on google

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ron-desantis-elon-musk-2024-welcome-support-african-americans

"-Your site says The Hill is centrist, but three others say left leaning or left biased"

This is with the opinion section that The Hill is generally more left leaning, but that doesn't mean that the whole site is Centre-left. I wouldn't say that Fox News is far-right just because of Tucker Carlson. But comparing anyone else to Carlson, they'd be moderate right wing "chumps"

-You can endorse someone on the right with out being a right-winger. He used to endorse Democrats until they moved farther and farther left.

-If 3 sites say that The Hill is left-leaning and only 1 says it’s centrist, it’s highly likely left-leaning.

"-You can endorse someone on the right with out being a right-winger. He used to endorse Democrats until they moved farther and farther left."

Maybe.

"-If 3 sites say that The Hill is left-leaning and only 1 says it’s centrist, it’s highly likely left-leaning."

Which three sites say that The Hill is left leaning? That's those three key opinion columnists that are leftists

-“Maybe”

It’s happened before and will again

-I typed in ‘Media Bias The Hill’ and the first site said centrist, and I bet that’s where you stopped and shared the link with me.

But I didn’t stop there, and guess what?

I found three that said left leaning.

"1: RINOs range from center-right to far-left."

Not far-left but definitely up to centre-right.

"2: I don’t give a shit about what OP says. Either use your own arguments or STFU."

I guess I need to keep quiet

-Some ARE far-left. It’s in the name RINO. If you’re a Republican In Name Only, then you aren’t a Republican at all, which means you are a Democrat or Independent. If you’re one of those, you could easily be far-left.

-So you admit to not being able to argue for yourself?

By Trump's definition, literally anyone can be a RINO. Even Ron DeSantis has been called a RINO by Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3839233-trump-knocks-desantis-as-rino-globalist/

By RINO/Democrat definition, anyone right of center is a far-right wing-nut.

I see your still using left-biased sites.

And they’re getting more and more left biased as we progress.

Real Centre-Right people dislike Donald Trump, like Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Mitch McConnell, and Mitt Romney.

Those are RINOs, not Center-right.

RINOs range between centre to centre-right. Some more moderate than others, but none of them are leftists. They'd still believe in lower regulations than Democrats. Even OlympianProduct exaggerated that "RINOs" are Democrats Doing the speed limit, implying that they're "not as bad as Democrats"

By today's standards, if Bush was a politician to this day, he'd be a "RINO"

1: RINOs range from center-right to far-left.

2: I don’t give a shit about what OP says. Either use your own arguments or STFU.

Read the meme, this is not saying that you're white. If I said you were white on a meme, then it would be against ToS to be doxxing you. Plus as you said, you're Native.

This meme is mostly about the conservative logic of the lives of transgender people.

"I read the meme.

It says “I’m willing to bet that conservatives said that whites were the only normal people.

It doesn’t say ‘white conservatives’, just conservatives, meaning that all conservatives are white. That’s racist, and lumps me in with the group."

False. I'm saying that conservatives previously believed that white people were the "only normal" people because they were the same people who were pro-slavery, they were also the same people who supported segregation, and they were the same people who still don't acknowledge racism to this day.

"Keep trying.

P.S. Doxxing is giving out a person’s: real name, address, place of work, etc. It doesn’t include guessing their political affiliation or assuming the color of their skin."

I guess so

"Conservatives don’t, and never have believed that ‘only white people are normal people’, because conservatives come in all colors."

They may not today but they did in the past.

"As for your slavery remark, SOME white people supported it while MANY did not. And it wasn’t only white people who owned slaves. Slavery was prevalent in almost every society, my own included. Many races owned slaves from their own race and from other races."

The 1860 Republican Party convention in Chicago created a platform that clearly opposed the expansion of slavery in the West and the reopening of the slave trade. However, nothing in the document claimed that the government had the power to eliminate slavery where it already existed.

https://www.americanyawp.com/reader/the-sectional-crisis/1860-republican-party-platform/

"Democrats were the ones who wanted to keep segregation. Biden was one of the senators who fought intervention in the schools. They were racist back then, and continue to be racist today. I’ve never had a conservative cal me a racial slur on this site, but many leftists have."

By the late 1960s, the national Democratic Party had abandoned its former support for legal segregation and enjoyed strong support from Black voters, while Republicans had embraced a white backlash to voting and civil rights to build their party in the South.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/18/fact-check-democrats-republicans-and-complicated-history-race/3208378001/

"So once again you assumed something, were proven wrong, and started backpedaling so you could pretend you weren’t wrong.

That’s what leftists typically do. Are you sure you’re a conservative? I only ask because every comment you make seems to say otherwise."

I'm not a conservative nor a liberal. I'm a neoconservative (cross between a conservative and liberal)

Because leftists are correct on these points.

"The question you should be asking is:

Why do left-wingers keep pushing the same old lie about the ‘party switch’, when it was only a couple of minor points that changed, not the entire ideology?"

I'm pretty sure I saw a leftist say that the Dems were conservatives and the GOP were liberal, once

They have suddenly switched sides of politics, and history tells you the truth

So the Republicans used to be a progressive party and the Democrats were Conservative?

https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

But the next question is when the Party Switch happened