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Transgender rights: a calm & collected debate. #bothsides

Transgender rights: a calm & collected debate. #bothsides | Transgenderism isn’t normal! I never said it was “normal!” Only that it happens, and whenever someone is, they’re entitled to respect and equal treatment! But if we treat them equally, then they’ll start to think that it’s normal! Is that what we do with people who have other kinds of health conditions? Point and laugh at them, or get them the treatment they need without being judgmental about it? Don’t try to analogize this! Transgenders are just plain weird and I don’t like them!! | image tagged in maga american chopper argument,transgenderism,transgender,trans,conservative party,both sides | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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I say, think of it like anorexia. People give those diagnosed the right treatment because, if everybody went "oh yeah, don't listen to everyone else, you have the right to beleive to believe you are fat, you should lose weight", they would die of malnourishment. However, if we say "you cant change genders to a trans person, they wont die. So we let them go through life thinking they are the wrong gender, rather then giving them the help they need.
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So if someone has Body Dysmorphia and wants an otherwise healthy body part amputated, should they be able to get that body part amputated? Or should they seek therapy and other treatments that actually will help them?
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No physician would proceed with a radical intervention such as amputation without extended consultation with the patient, likely involving an outside psychiatrist, or two or three.

Not all conservatives agree with you, as seen by the bills banning gender-affirming care, and not just for children either - at least four states are moving to ban/restrict it for adults over the age of 18.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/11/politics/gender-affirming-care-bans-transgender-rights/index.html

A lot of the more hysterical conservative discourse around transgenderism seems predicated upon the false assumption that you can walk into a clinic, pronounce yourself as trans, and get your junk chopped off that very afternoon. No, that's not how it works.

It starts with counseling, then soft (and reversible) interventions like puberty blockers and hormone therapy, and only after a lot of that does the option of an irreversible surgery ever get put on the table. Some trans people complete only part of the process and stop. Others choose never to get the surgery, even though they otherwise fully identify as trans.

It's time-consuming and expensive process, and some never get to the exact endpoint they want simply because of the costs of healthcare in America. And others sadly commit suicide because they can't get the care they need for some reason and can't bear to live inside their bodies.

I believe as a general principle that freedom means that people have total control over their own bodies, subject to appropriate safeguards like I've described above. After all, I support euthanasia. I don't see how anyone who supports the right to die under physician assistance would oppose the idea that same person shouldn't have the right to amputate a body part that they feel like they can't live with.
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Trans people should get the same acceptance and respect as other people
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Transgenderism isn’t normal! I never said it was “normal!” Only that it happens, and whenever someone is, they’re entitled to respect and equal treatment! But if we treat them equally, then they’ll start to think that it’s normal! Is that what we do with people who have other kinds of health conditions? Point and laugh at them, or get them the treatment they need without being judgmental about it? Don’t try to analogize this! Transgenders are just plain weird and I don’t like them!!