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The Republican Party are now Right Wing to Far Right while the Dems are Centre-Left

The Republican Party are now Right Wing to Far Right while the Dems are Centre-Left | image tagged in sam elliott special kind of stupid,fact check,republicans,democrats,maga,fox news | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
exempting Tucker Carlson, Fox News is a bunch of moderate squishes
0 ups, 2y
I can somewhat agree with you. Tucker Carlson is definitely the most right wing one, yet the rest of the guys on the opinion section is right wing to far right, but the news section is right wing.

I'll give you an upvote anyways because the response is somewhat accurate, but I could have had worse comments given to me
3 ups, 2y,
3 replies
What are you talking about? Your average Republican is just a Democrat from 5-10 years ago.
1 up, 2y
real..... :(
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
Really?
1 up, 2y
yes
[deleted] M
1 up, 2y
I can vouch for this, I did canvassing for Obama back in 2012, and if the 2012 election was done today, I would still vote for Obama.
[deleted] M
2 ups, 2y,
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So do you agree with child sex changes, unlimited abortion up to the point of birth, and sending all our money to the stupid proxy war in Ukraine? Because that’s what the Democrat Party stands for.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"So do you agree with child sex changes,"

I don't support gender transitioning surgeries for minor, but it's up to the individual child whether they want to change their gender or not. My religion doesn't allow it though.

"unlimited abortion up to the point of birth,"

I'm pro life like Liz Cheney.

"and sending all our money to the stupid proxy war in Ukraine? Because that’s what the Democrat Party stands for."

It's an invasion that Russia is doing
[deleted] M
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
“I don't support gender transitioning surgeries for minor, but it's up to the individual child whether they want to change their gender or not. My religion doesn't allow it though.”

If a child wants to identify as a different gender, whatever, but they do not have the legal authority to consent to transition surgeries. Once they are 18, if they choose to get transition surgery, then they can legally consent to it. That is what conservatives are fighting to preserve and leftists are fighting to change. So tell me, which of those sounds too far to one side?

“I'm pro life like Liz Cheney.”

Yeah, the Cheney family isn’t exactly known for being pro life. Just ask her dad about that hunting trip back in 2006 or lying to get us into the war in Iraq.

“It's an invasion that Russia is doing”

Yes it is. I still don’t support giving them hundreds of billions of dollars when the US could be using that money to make things better back home.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"If a child wants to identify as a different gender, whatever, but they do not have the legal authority to consent to transition surgeries. Once they are 18, if they choose to get transition surgery, then they can legally consent to it. That is what conservatives are fighting to preserve and leftists are fighting to change. So tell me, which of those sounds too far to one side?"

I thought gender surgeries were legal for under 18s.

"Yeah, the Cheney family isn’t exactly known for being pro life. Just ask her dad about that hunting trip back in 2006 or lying to get us into the war in Iraq."

See image.

"Yes it is. I still don’t support giving them hundreds of billions of dollars when the US could be using that money to make things better back home."

You also mentioned earlier, I cannot find where but I'm pretty sure you said that the Democrats have a spending problem.

Side bar: I'm pretty sure Putin supporters don't care that Putin is invading Ukraine. Do you support Putin?
[deleted] M
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
“I thought gender surgeries were legal for under 18s.”

I believe it varies by state

“See image”

Water boarding is indeed torture. Also, her dad shot a guy and lied to get us into Iraq.

“You also mentioned earlier, I cannot find where but I'm pretty sure you said that the Democrats have a spending problem.”

Both sides have a spending problem, it’s not exclusive to Democrats.

“Side bar: I'm pretty sure Putin supporters don't care that Putin is invading Ukraine. Do you support Putin?”

So because I don’t support pouring all my tax dollars into stupid proxy wars, I must be a Putin supporter? What a stupid argument. What next, if I don’t support cannibalism, that must mean I want people to starve, right? I don’t support US involvement in the Ukraine war, if Putin happens to not support US involvement as well, I’m not going to change my mind like an NPC because the government says Putin man bad.
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
"I believe it varies by state"

California actually has it legal but it must be under parental permission...

https://transgenderlawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2010-Practitioners-Guide-with-cover.pdf

See last page of PDF.

"Water boarding is indeed torture. Also, her dad shot a guy and lied to get us into Iraq."

I wasn't trying to say that but there is more proof that yes Liz Cheney is considered a "RINO" but she's as centre-right as anything.

"Both sides have a spending problem, it’s not exclusive to Democrats."

But the Democrats spend more money on stuff.

“Side bar: I'm pretty sure Putin supporters don't care that Putin is invading Ukraine. Do you support Putin?”

"So because I don’t support pouring all my tax dollars into stupid proxy wars, I must be a Putin supporter? What a stupid argument."

I just asked if you supported Putin. I never said you were a Putin supporter, I just stereotyped that Putin supporters are Pro-War.

"What next, if I don’t support cannibalism, that must mean I want people to starve, right?"

What a whacky claim.

"I don’t support US involvement in the Ukraine war, if Putin happens to not support US involvement as well, I’m not going to change my mind like an NPC because the government says Putin man bad."

I respect your views but you're not gonna change my mind into not supporting Ukraine, unlike 65% of U.S. adults preferring that the United States support Ukraine in reclaiming its territory according to a brand new poll.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/469328/one-year-later-americans-stand-ukraine.aspx
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"But the Democrats spend more money on stuff."

False.
Image vs Reality. Look their spending habits up if you're up for a laugh or a shock.
What they pretend and what they do are two different things.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
This was prior to Biden era.

Biden spent $6.27 trillion in FY 2022, whereas the highest Bush spent in a Fiscal Year was $3.518 trillion, which was in FY 2009.

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/federal-spending/
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/fy-2009-u-s-federal-budget-and-spending-3306311
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"But the Democrats spend more money on stuff."

False. STILL.

I wasn't talking about one single solitary year out of two years in decline under Biden (Congress sets the budget, btw, not the president) compared to one nearly a decade and a half ago by a president, mind you, that in that year locked in the next president with a trillion in TARP, a trillion in Afghanistan, and a trillion in Iraq plus that near-depression mega Great Recession thingy to play budget with.
0 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Hmmm, as what OlympianProduct said, "Both sides have a spending problem, it’s not exclusive to Democrats."

I guess you could agree with OlympianProduct for once
0 ups, 2y
*le sigh*
Must I c/p your erroneous comment yet again? Or shall we take your ommission as an admission and call this one a wrap?
[deleted] M
0 ups, 2y,
2 replies
“But the Democrats spend more money on stuff.”

No arguments there, I’m just saying it’s an issue both sides struggle with.

“I just asked if you supported Putin. I never said you were a Putin supporter, I just stereotyped that Putin supporters are Pro-War.”

Uh huh, sure 🙄 What exactly have I said in this comment thread that could even possibly have been construed as being pro war? I’m no neocon or neolib, those people sicken me. The only possible way you could get me to support a war is if either the homeland is under attack or if humanity is facing a force hellbent on wiping us out and it’s a fight for the survival of humanity.

“I respect your views but you're not gonna change my mind into not supporting Ukraine, unlike 65% of U.S. adults preferring that the United States support Ukraine in reclaiming its territory according to a brand new poll.”

Appeal to popularity fallacy. Just because some poll claims 65% of people support something doesn’t mean they’re right. Getting involved in Ukraine means that eventually, the US will be physically involved in the war, either to bolster a failing Ukrainian army or attacked by Russia to stop supply lines to the Ukrainians. Either way, it’s World War III. You as a neocon shill for the military industrial complex may be happy with that, but I could never support a war that would eventually claim the lives of those who I care about, either through joining the military or getting drafted and dying in combat, or by nuclear blast, which anybody with an ounce of common sense knows is the end result of World War III.
0 ups, 2y
"No arguments there, I’m just saying it’s an issue both sides struggle with."

And you think the Libertarian Party would do better because they'd believe in small government and laissez-faire?

“I just asked if you supported Putin. I never said you were a Putin supporter, I just stereotyped that Putin supporters are Pro-War.”

"Uh huh, sure 🙄 What exactly have I said in this comment thread that could even possibly have been construed as being pro war? I’m no neocon or neolib, those people sicken me. The only possible way you could get me to support a war is if either the homeland is under attack or if humanity is facing a force hellbent on wiping us out and it’s a fight for the survival of humanity."

Fair enough.

“I respect your views but you're not gonna change my mind into not supporting Ukraine, unlike 65% of U.S. adults preferring that the United States support Ukraine in reclaiming its territory according to a brand new poll.”

"Appeal to popularity fallacy. Just because some poll claims 65% of people support something doesn’t mean they’re right."

Maybe so, but that's your opinion. But if you use appeal to popularity fallacy, it can point out many things like if you decide to make an anti vax protest in a place where 95%+ of the places' being vaccinated. Yup, right wingers across Australia last year protested in Canberra and the protest was dubbed as offensive to the locals as most people in Canberra were vaccinated, not to mention the vaccine mandates are a state thing in Australia, not to mention the protest in Canberra was to try manipulate the Canadian anti vax protest with the trucks honking.

"Getting involved in Ukraine means that eventually, the US will be physically involved in the war, either to bolster a failing Ukrainian army or attacked by Russia to stop supply lines to the Ukrainians."

I can definitely say the Ukrainian Army is failing compared to the American army but Russia's army is stronger than Ukraine's army according to globalfirepower.com (an apolitical website)...

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail.php?country1=ukraine&country2=russia
0 ups, 2y
"Either way, it’s World War III. You as a neocon shill for the military industrial complex may be happy with that, but I could never support a war that would eventually claim the lives of those who I care about,"

And you say I'm Pro-War? Well I'm sorry but I stand for Ukraine, and Ukraine supporters don't like the war but want the war to be cut back the attacking from Ukraine from donating money to Ukraine in order to support them as you pointed out that they are a failing army, so they don't fail (it's like donating to charity for a better world but only done by the government).

I sent this link to EyewitlessNews on the politics stream that the way to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine is to go after his money.

Which going after Putin's money I believe is a long term goal.

https://time.com/6143645/how-to-stop-putin-invastion-ukraine/

I can even show you the entire conversation for transparency purposes... imgflip.com/i/7aqobz#com23842776

"either through joining the military or getting drafted and dying in combat, or by nuclear blast, which anybody with an ounce of common sense knows is the end result of World War III."

Which there was an Australian soldier who joined the Ukraine frontline interestingly enough, which he "inspires everyone to do the same thing".

And about the nuclear blast you said, maybe it could be similar into how WW2 ended (the atomic bomb) but as you said, with a nuclear blast being hundreds or even thousands of times more powerful than atomic bombs according to britannica.com, not to mention the article has been fact checked and should be fine.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-05/australian-soldier-fighting-for-ukraine-hopes-for/13915936
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2020-08-04/atomic-bomb-end-world-war-ii
https://www.britannica.com/question/Which-is-more-powerful-a-thermonuclear-bomb-or-an-atomic-bomb
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