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I can certainly relate to this. The democrats weren't always the best but they're better than MAGA Republicans, however, Republicans like Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell despite being labelled as "RINOs" are best.

The Republicans have lurched too much to the right, resulting me to be classed as a Republican Leaning independent with which party I'd back.

This meme is perfect for RINO_Republicans too... imgflip.com/m/RINO_Republicans

Eeewwwwwww Romney or Mitch

Maybe in your opinion

Romney and Turtle are Democrats going the speed limit. MAGA is the only faction speaking to regular Americans and their concerns.

"MAGA is the only faction speaking to regular Americans and their concerns."

Regular you say, well maybe in your opinion that MAGA people are regular. 42% of Americans are independent, and well actually the Republicans are actually more popular than the Democrats. But if the Democrats become a centrist party like Macron's party in France, then the Dems would get more support (especially from centre-right people)

However, according to an NBC report, 42% of Republicans are MAGA, meaning that about 18% of Americans are MAGA to be generous.

But that's one poll that only interviewed 1,000 U.S. adults.

Interestingly, Biden was wrong that MAGA Republicans are minority of the party.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/poll-us-republicans-reject-maga-label-rcna49749
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-joe-biden-right-that-maga-republicans-are-minority-party-1756720

Yea rarely ever get a populist to win party, just look on Ron Paul, burnie, Tulsi

Ron Paul is a libertarian
Bernie Sanders is left wing and is far too much to the left.
Tulsi now an independent former Democrat.

The only one that is alright is Ron Paul, but both Sanders and Tulsi aren't that a great.

But Ron Paul's son Rand Paul is great, he's even Pro-Life

Yeah I'm from VT f**k bernie

Spewing speculation about percentages is not disproving my point. Name the policies that neocons or Democrats have enacted that actually help regular people.

Me:

A perfect PoliticsToo meme. But which ones do you think "RINOs" have done and which ones have Democrats done?

These are bread-and-butter Democratic policies. There are also a handful of moderate Republicans who would support common-sense legislation along these lines, but generally, not enough to overcome a filibuster.

Many Moderate Republicans would now support LGBTQ rights

LGBTQ already have the same rights as you and I. Minimum wage hikes only mean small businesses go under as they can’t always afford that wage, which means they either have to raise prices, or they go out of business, which means less jobs for everyone. Not to mention most people are already making around $15 an hour or more already. Lower taxes overall achieve the same goal as child tax credits, and have basically instant support from the Republicans so lower taxes are the superior solution. Infrastructure is bipartisan so not really a policy exclusive to Democrats. Democrats hate families hence their rabid support for baby murder aka abortion so not really seeing how paid family leave is still a Democrat policy. Democrats hate clean energy, solar requires mining rare earth minerals that cause just as much damage to the earth as coal and both wind and solar kill tons of birds, if Democrats actually cared about clean energy, they would get behind the greatest clean energy there is: nuclear power. I already said it, but I’ll say it again: abortion is murder. And finally, rural broadband isn’t really necessary anymore thanks to your favorite Twitter CEO, Elon Musk. Starlink is just as good as broadband and it has the added benefit of being portable. I won’t say no to expanded rural broadband, but like always, the free market finds a way.

"Spewing speculation about percentages is not disproving my point."

Very true, because MAGA has been mainstreamed by Republicans, hence why the Republicans have gone too much to the right.

"Name the policies that neocons or Democrats have enacted that actually help regular people."

Well the Democrats haven't made great policies, but many Neocons like Cheney were strongly against abortion and are proud 2nd amendment supporters.

Even the Republican Party was always Centre-Right but I don't believe the republican politicians today are centre-right, many of them are right wing and are too partisan.

Great policies of Neocons include their favouring of capitalism, their call to strengthen social disciplines and authority at every level meaning custodial sentences and to longer prison sentences, transparency, etc.

I will agree that US politics in general is way too partisan, one only needs to go look at an interaction between users on the politics stream to see how that’s going. However it’s not because Republicans are too far right, it’s because Democrats are too far left. I understand that compared to Australia and other western countries that Republicans would be considered far right over there, but the Republicans have kinda been crawling to the left a bit while the Democrats have just driven over the cliff. Trump himself was a former Democrat and is basically the reason the Republicans have even liberalized to the extent that they have. Compare that to the neocons under George W Bush who lied to us about Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction to get us involved in the war in Iraq and us leaving a power vacuum there that led to the rise of the terrorist group ISIS, got the PATRIOT act signed that allowed for organizations like the FBI and NSA to spy on the American people, and his utter failure to prevent the Great Recession in 2008, and in return, we got some lower taxes. Yeah, not exactly a good trade off, which is why I will never support a single neocon for as long as I live.

"I will agree that US politics in general is way too partisan, one only needs to go look at an interaction between users on the politics stream to see how that’s going. However it’s not because Republicans are too far right, it’s because Democrats are too far left."

Well the Democrats are still centre-left. But the Green Party are definitely too left wing for Bernie Sanders. But AOC is still a very left wing Democrat.

"I understand that compared to Australia and other western countries that Republicans would be considered far right over there, but the Republicans have kinda been crawling to the left a bit while the Democrats have just driven over the cliff."

I wouldn't compare the Republicans to the Liberal Party of Australia (a centre-right party), I'd more compare the Republicans to One Nation.

"Trump himself was a former Democrat and is basically the reason the Republicans have even liberalized to the extent that they have."

So you're saying the Republicans could have gone even further right? Well there are some Republicans like MTG who are much more to the right than Donald Trump.

"Compare that to the neocons under George W Bush who lied to us about Saddam Hussein having weapons of mass destruction to get us involved in the war in Iraq and us leaving a power vacuum there that led to the rise of the terrorist group ISIS, got the PATRIOT act signed that allowed for organizations like the FBI and NSA to spy on the American people, and his utter failure to prevent the Great Recession in 2008, and in return, we got some lower taxes. Yeah, not exactly a good trade off, which is why I will never support a single neocon for as long as I live."

According to investopia.com, most of the blame is on the lenders. The lenders were the ones who advanced loans to people with poor credit and a high risk of default. Why?

When the central banks flooded the markets with capital liquidity, it not only lowered interest rates, it also broadly depressed risk premiums as investors looked for riskier opportunities to bolster their investment returns. At the same time, lenders found themselves with ample capital to lend and, like investors, an increased willingness to undertake additional risk to increase their own investment returns.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/07/subprime-blame.asp#toc-the-biggest-culprit-the-lenders

Sorry man this was a shitpost

But I found that it was a good neoconservative approved shitpost, seemed quite political but vague enough for it to be shitpost

Well I suppose we attacked this thread like a pack of starving piranhas didn’t we