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Yes Ukraine is winning and everything is going great. That's why we need to send them hundreds of new tanks and fighter jets!

Yes Ukraine is winning and everything is going great. That's why we need to send them hundreds of new tanks and fighter jets! | image tagged in z | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Silken Floss sticker | Send in zee pug drones | image tagged in silken floss sticker | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
Well now that team Z learned to close their tank lids, $100 drones don't have the same zing.
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Russia WILL take Bakhmut.

Ukraine WILL U-turn and say is was strategically insignificant despite sending 80,000 of their best troops their to defend it.
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You realise that war with Russia would involve nukes? We're all f**ked then so I'd rather not have conflict and tell NATO to piss off before Russia does something dumb.
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Yes, Russia could always do something dumb. So could India/Pakistan along their contentious border. Or North Korea getting spicy again at South Korea. Or China firing nukes across the Taiwan Strait. Or an infinite number of scenarios in the Middle East involving Israel.

The mere existence of nuclear weapons in the hands of any country is a nightmare that it hurts to think about.

That said: the USSR/Russia, the U.S., and every other nuclear-armed power have fought multiple if not dozens of wars since acquiring nuclear weapons, without ever actually resorting to using their nukes, with the sole exception of the U.S. over Japan in 1945 (which can be considered a special case, an exception that proves the rule, as this was during a brief window when the U.S. was the world’s only nuclear power and didn’t have to fear mutually-assured destruction).

All of which is to say, a nuclear taboo has held since 1945, and there’s little reason to think the latest conflict that happens to involve Russia is going to change that.

It’s fair to say that having nuclear weapons grants Russia effective immunity from being invaded on its own soil and a significant degree of diplomatic deference (hence why it’s taken so long for the U.S. and Germany to send over their best tanks to Ukraine), but nuclear privileges are not unlimited. If we allowed nuclear blackmail to become normalized, there’s no telling where it might lead. But for starters, nuclear proliferation would increase exponentially, multiplying doomsday scenarios ad infinitum.

Taking the long view, it actually reduces worldwide nuclear risk to show other countries thinking about acquiring nukes that Russia can’t bluff its way to victory with nuclear threats despite losing or at best being stalemated on the ground.

For now, the fight over Ukraine proceeds in ghastly, though strictly conventional terms.
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The reason M.A.D. (Mutually Assured Destruction) exists is because multiple countries has nuclear devices.

If a single country had access to these devices, and that country ONLY had the devices, they'd be able to erase anything in their path.

Hence, its more of a benefit for multiple countries to have nuclear weaponry, as it ensures that someone who uses them will get annihilated.
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TL;DR
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Tl;dr — Getting vexed by Russian nuclear bluster only makes us less safe.

There, there’s the CliffNotes version. If you want to know why, dig out your reading glasses
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Here I'll summarise in 2 sentences:

Don't aggravate Russia and abandon your hegemonic liberal world order ideals because you'll never get them and any further attempts to threaten Russia will lead to nuclear and chemical warfare that will wipe out any resistance for far-right militias seeking control over society in the aftermath.

If we de-escalate with Russia then no WW3.
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I’ll summarize in one word: Nope.

Longer response: See, meme.
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You think the west can win WW3, bless your heart.
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