trump and reagan

And they both absolutely sucked at their job.

Depends on peoples opinions

More on fact, but whatever you say.

Well if you ask a maga person they’ll say trump was a god

Well I'm a MAGA person, how about you ask me?

Oh wait, that would debunk your preconceived notions of other people.

Oh great. A maga person. America is at its greatest extent POWER wise, so there's no need for the AGAIN. Let's just make America GreatER seems better.

Oh great. Someone who missed my point.

Never said anything about getting political, please don’t start

You never did, huh?

Interesting...

No, im stating a fact

No, you aren't. Which is why I suggested instead of making false assumptions, you actually ASKED me, a so-called "maga person."

Really? When I saw the “USA_Patriot76” I thought you were Amish

You apparently missed the point of my comment.

Try again.

Also that statement is entirely political, so don't even start with the gaslighting.

You mean if i ask an idiot lol.

I don’t really like to get into politics on here but yeah

I know. I just wish I lived in new Zealand, or somewhere better than this shitty nation where everyone is an asshole, or not good at running the country.

That, or you're in debt or something.

But still.

Gladly. I don't wanna live here with the flawed education system, government, and healthcare. I don't wanna live in a place where school shootings is a daily occurrence. I will gladly move to new Zealand.

Good.

Now do it.

Or are you in the same vein of those "i'M mOvINg To CaNAdA!!!!!" crazies?

Bitch i said want. I physically can't do it, and I'm forced to live in this hell hole. I admit, at least it's better than Russia, china, and Saudi Arabia, but the United States isn't great.

Neither do I. young people contribute a lot to society.
But as for the curse words, there is a time and place to use them. A simple dialogue online, especially one where your opponent is going out of their way to be nice to you, is not one of those times. And overuse just makes you seem like a hot headed fool.

Oh, look. More cursing.

So if you can't you must still be a minor. I advise you to actually educate yourself before raging online. I bet you think cursing makes you loom older, doesn't it? :)

I don't care if I'm young, i still have a f**king brain. Im still a human that can think, and obtain knowledge. Cursing doesn't make me feel older. It helps get my point across. Curse words are not meant for kids to feel more alike adults, but to convey a sense of greater emotion. If you can't understand that, than I'm sure that you're also a minor too.

*look... sorry about the case of fat fingers

Oh, and let me fix that meme for you.

Agreed

I'm none of those. Bru you only like trump because he was republican. News flash, he used to be a democrat, but realized that Republicans were way more gullible.

It's a meme. I never really said you were communist or gay or anything else. It's just supposed to be representative of the left.

News flash: People change. Strom Thurmond, for example, used to be a racist and segregationist, but had a change of heart and started hiring black aides and even voted to make MLK day a holiday. Yes, he used to be a Democrat. I actually admire Trump for that even more.

Gullible? Yeah, says the one who thinks not only Trump, but Reagan too, were bad presidents.

Bitch, trump changed his political party not for change, but for power. Also didn't trump call coving the Kung-flu to be racist? You're comparing trump to people who have become better. Additionally, i only said that party point because people who vote only based on those are idiots, and republicans seem to do that a lot more. And you probably only like Regan because the Soviet union dissolved while he was president, but he didn't do that. He just lowered taxes for his friend that were rich, and made the trickle down theory that was abused by many for power.

He "changed his political party"? yeah. He showed them what awful RINOs are in DC, as well as the rest of the swamp.

It's called a joke. Keep in mind what your guy said "as a joke." (You Ain't Black)

I'm comparing Trump to people who were great leaders like he was.

RDS. It's called Reaganomics and it was awesome. He lowered taxes for everyone. And the USSR actually collapsed under G.H.W. Bush, not Reagan. So please try to get your facts straight before railing on me. It doesn't make you look very credible when you don't.

Haha great leaders
That's funny. You mean like Putin? Kim jong UN? Stalin? Mussolini? And please, lower taxes weren't for the people, it was for the rich. Additionally, if you think that political parties define a person, you are stupid, because he changed his for power. And also i don't give a shit about Biden. He's not great, but trump was worse. You thinking that just because I dislike trump, i am a democrat, you are an idiot who will vote for people just because their political party is republican. Which is stupid. If Hitler went here, and made his political party republican, he would get votes. Why? Because people like you are absolute idiots who can't make intelligent decisions.

Uh, no. Nice try, though.

You can make that claim all day, but that doesn't make it true.

Ad hominem.

How? Last I checked, under his admin, we had cheap gas, no looming threat of WW3, stable supply lines, and a lot of freedom.

More ad hominem.

Evidence? Also that is a silly claim considering Trump is nothing like Hitler. Hitler was a racial socialist, something Trump is definitely not.

I'm going to ask you to please stop filling my notifications with mudslinging, so unless you have something polite to say, just keep it to yourself.

I never said Hitler dumbass

Is that so?

Yeah, now you're just gaslighting.

I never said trump WAS LIKE Hitler. I said a bunch of other people he was like. Additionally, that part was showing how flawed political parties are. Read Washington's farewell address to see how horrible they are, from a guy who is so smart that he predicted this shit very accurately, before it happened.

And that makes a difference, how? That's like saying "Hell yes we're going to take away free speech" after a riot.

Now, I don't "idolize" Trump, but... how is this incriminating, again? Sounds like he was talking about a criminal investigation.

Of you shot someone, your gun would be taken away due to the misuse of the firearm. If somebody robbed a bank and got caught, wouldn't you take back the money? If somebody was drunk driving, wouldn't you take away their car? See the flaws? Listen, Beto and trump both said it about similar occasions, so you can't pick and choose based off of that specific point. Beto O'Rourke should've been elected. He did many great things to help us that mayor hotwheels hasn't. The freeze thing, Beto helped people during the freeze with a bank. Beto would've been a great leader.

Uh-huh... more gaslighting. You know what you said.

Oh, yes. Political parties are very flawed. The GOP just voted Ronna McDaniel in again. But one party wants to impose government control over nearly every facet of society, kill children, and corrupt the ones that do survive.

Also, this is just a hunch, but I'm going to guess you don't like Washington and are just quoting him to attempt to prove your point. Just a guess, though.

Bro I would love to go too canada

EXCUSE ME! Washington is my favorite president! How dare you. And no political party wants to kill children. Fetuses aren't fully alive yet. They don't want to impose control over the government. Political parties are used for power. Before, people were way smarter and voted based off of the person. Nowdays, most people vote ONLY based off of political parties, and not the person themself. So I don't think the political parties are flawed, i think their horrible.

You know I'm talking about the quotes, right?

Right?

Okay maybe not.

Lee Zeldin was the Republican nominee for Governor of New York in 2022.

Oh ok. Yeah, i don't know governors of other states except Florida. Because I despise the Floridian governor.

So which is it? Did he never say it or was it taken out of context?

And what context was there to take it out of? It was a speech on gun control.

You're missing the point. Also I find it funny that you still haven't met my challenge.

It was taken out of context. He said it after a mass shooting. And if you hate Beto, look at trump, who you people idolize so much, and see that after a shooting, he said "take the gun first, then the evidence." So if you act hypocritical over Beto O'Rourke saying that, look at your guy too.

Well, most people like you despise George, so I just kinda guessed.

No, actually they are. They meet all necessary criteria for life.
What? BOTH political parties want to control as many facets of government as possible. That's the point of a political party. I mean one wants to create a nanny state.

Like they voted for Reagan and Trump (and rightly so!)?

Political parties are merely linkage institutions for various groups of people. It's what the people in the parties actually support.

Political parties are basically a divide. Something meant to split the people. It only works if the people don't realize it, and let them get to their head. Political parties were created to group people with similar beliefs, but it's gone so far from that. Now people just use it as their identity, Their personality, every factor of their life. The people who dont are the smarter people. Anyone who asks you in any political argument what party you are, you can tell that they are not one of the smarter people. At least you can see that political parties arent everything, even if we don't have the same beliefs. People now use the political parties to decide who they vote, no matter who they're voting. Additionally the politicians being voted in use the parties as a way to gain power. That's the big flaw with political parties that makes me wish to abolish them forever.

This is news to you?

Yeah, some people do, but not very many.

Oh, boy. There's what I've called the "Texas fallacy" again... Simply because a governor was not prepared for a natural occurrence uncharacteristic of the state does not mean they are bad leaders. A similar experience was had here in VA last winter, and, though former governor Northam is an asshat, it wasn't really his fault. It's simply a matter of infrastructure being designed to optimize performance for normal conditions, not fluke storms.

Also, you were saying earlier that all leaders have their strengths as well as weaknesses, so let's see you practice what you preach: tell me something GREAT about the Abbott administration.

As for Beta O'Rourke...
"Hell yes, we're going to take your AR-15, your AK-47"

Beto never said that, and plus, the clip was taken out of context. So it wasn't his fault that the storm happened. It's his fault that he didn't help us AFTERWARDS.

Yeah, I guessed.

:)

To you they might be, but the truth is, they're not similar.

If we're talking about who "should have been elected," Zeldin should have been elected. He would lower crime and taxes and actually help the people, unlike Governor Matchbox. (See what I did there?)

Yup. Abbott is so selfish. He used the fact that he's disabled in his political campaign, just for sympathy. During the freeze he gave no financial help, etc. Idk who zeldin it, but they seem ok.

Of course some people do, but most don't. Simply because people are outspoken about their beliefs does not entail "basing their personality" on their politics.
So your point is... political parties have flaws? Yeah, I don't think anyone is denying that. But "abolishing them forever" would be a violation of the First Amendment, so...

Not really. We can still choose our religion, we can still have assembly, we will still have press, we can still have petition, and we all can still have the freedom of speech. And I am outspoken on my beliefs, but im never on one specific side, and agree with everything said on that side. Personally, i have beliefs of equality in general. Both political parties have some sort of inequality mixed into their beliefs. I just feel that people are way too guided by the parties, and should make decisions based off of research and logic instead of parties. A big example is Texas. During the midterms, instead of voting for someone who could help Texas be better, they voted in the same guy who did nothing to help us during the freeze. It was mainly because he was republican, but they used the bull excuse of Beto taking away guns, which is completely false. With the place that i live being Texas, the state with the most of the political parties taking over people's personalities, it's kinda what I'm used to seeing, and it's why I despise it. But I don't know if its different elsewhere because I've only lived around Houston. Sorry for the long comment lol.

Reagan didn’t suck

He's the reason rich people are so corrupt and rich. He was horrible.

Explain how

Regan's "trickle down theory" was abused by many people, and they became way too powerful with money.