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Elections are all stolen and politicians bought and paid for by lobbyists anyway.

Elections are all stolen and politicians bought and paid for by lobbyists anyway. | Your vote counts | image tagged in democracy | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Yes — in Russia
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You're an election denier? You must be an extremist.
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says you?
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>says you?

Yes.
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Some elections are rigged, others aren’t. Do you know how to tell?
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Who cares lmao
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Well, the info is out there if you’re ever curious. Just one search away!
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Sorry but I don't see how it makes a difference. I really want to believe that democracy can work for the better but I've had no experience with it where it benefited me or anyone else and was conducted in a prudent way. I mean when has it ever been 'legitimate' where politicians actually solve problems rather than consolidating power while pocketing taxes?

Everytime I think about democracy it makes me sick, there must surely be a better way because I've lost all hope in it.
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You’re an idealist. Your hopes for democracy are too high, I think. There will always be lying and grifting and cheating politicians. No system of government has ever done away with that, nor could it.

Nor has any system of government successfully engineered away racial, economic, ethnic, tribal, or religious tensions — as you alluded to earlier.

Rather than seeking a system that “solves” all these conflicts (because it’s not out there), why don’t we ask instead: What system is best for *managing* these conflicts?

It’s apparent, at least to me, that regularly seeking the consent of the governed is preferable to letting whoever is currently in charge, for whatever reason — a hereditary claim, or a claim of divinity, or simply having amassed the most firepower — be in charge in perpetuity.

Autocracies are more prone to revolutions, civil wars, and wars of aggression because they can’t manage conflicts as well. The ruling circle’s perspective is always limited. If all power flows through the decree of one man (as in an absolute monarchy, or in an extreme dictatorship like Nazi Germany or Maoist China or contemporary North Korea), then the state is even more prone to making fatal errors.

Democracy provides a way for power to flow toward the party that the citizenry believes has the best ideas. Of course, the citizenry can get it wrong. I would certainly say that errors were made when America elected George W. Bush (architect of the Afghan/Iraq Wars), or Donald Trump (architect of an haphazard attempt to end our constitutional republic as we know it, which culminated on Jan. 6, 2021).

You could say the same about all the conservatives who hate Joe Biden with a passion for their own various reasons.

The point is this: Presidential terms are fixed. Americans who oppose the President can be confident they’ll get another say in a mere 2-4 years. And if a President is re-elected, he can’t serve more than 2 terms. That helps keep political tensions from reaching a breaking point.

Modern-day Russia’s politics are entirely, or almost entirely, run by Vladimir Putin. If you love him, great. If you don’t, then you have no idea when he’s leaving the stage, or what might come after him. So a lot of Russians this year (hundreds of thousands, in fact) made the ultimate vote, and voted with their feet to leave the country.

Democracies are more stable because they come in-built with a capacity for peaceful change. Autocracies? It’s a crapshoot.
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I mean I kinda agree with you. Not too sure I'm a good idealist though.
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It’s possible to come to democracy from a standpoint not of idealism and naivety, but of bitter, hard-won experience.

No less a democrat than Winston Churchill had a sense of humor about it, and appreciated its upsides and downsides, as both quotes show.
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