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5 ups, 2y,
1 reply
General Questions:
1: Why are you running in the election? The public wants an active HOS. No one is more active an me.
2: What will you do if you win the election? Meme pizza party
3: What party are you running for? Choose the Left
4: What is the purpose of the Party mentioned above you’re running for? Inclusivity. Choose the left invites all to join, not just like minded voters.
5: What do you think about your competitors? Most of em are good people. But the CRT party had their shot and didn't do anything with it.
6: Will you censor something in the stream if you win? Yes.
7: What are your honest thoughts on the stream moderators or the owner? Captain Scar may be a secret long furret, but you didn't hear it from me...
8: Do you think free speech is one of the most important issue in the stream? Yes. The stream cannot function with extremely limited viewpoints.
9: Do you think transparency is one of the most important issue in the stream? Yes. That's why as president I held lots of polls and made memes everyday. Like me or hate me I was always easy to find.
10: Why should people vote for you? The majority of HOS candidates will either be AWOL (mine turtle) or simply yes men for their party (whoever Incognito guy appoints after Mine turtle.) I'll be here and I'll have my own agendas.
11: What is your agenda (Such as bills proposed)? I want to try to pass a temporary rework of the stream allowing exotic political structures & monthly elections. Basically a test run for a wild new experimental system.
12: What is your political position? Right wing Libertarian
13: Do you think there are some people in the stream that should be censored? Yes. Moon man.
14: What do you think is the point of this stream? Fake political propaganda.
HOS questions:
1: If you win, will you make congress or the senate active? More active than it is now. I'll give out Senate seats to any [stream users] that want them.
2: How often are you planning to make bills? I'll make like 2 bills.
3: What will be the first priority if you win? The pizza party. Also making a "join the Senate" form. People love filling out forms right?
4 ups, 2y,
1 reply
My turn to debate your points.

Section 1.

"2: What will you do if you win the election? Meme pizza party"

Can you elaborate what the Meme pizza party would do and will it run this term or will it run once IG is nuked again?

"5: What do you think about your competitors? Most of em are good people. But the CRT party had their shot and didn't do anything with it."

Thank you for pointing what CTR did (I have to call them CTR so I don't get sacked/fired for running the debate), I would ask you to explain but it would be too much. If you want, do you want to briefly show one thing CRT did on the Section 3 Question 2?

"6: Will you censor something in the stream if you win? Yes."

What will you censor? Do you realise that we cannot actually censor anything because free speech and constitution.

"10: Why should people vote for you? The majority of HOS candidates will either be AWOL (mine turtle) or simply yes men for their party (whoever Incognito guy appoints after Mine turtle.) I'll be here and I'll have my own agendas."

Another point I could tell you about, I bet that Incognito Guy would abuse the senate again, so you're the only hope since CTR is only other party that would have a HoS candidate (which'll be abolish senate since CTR only have 3 members left on their ticket).

"11: What is your agenda (Such as bills proposed)? I want to try to pass a temporary rework of the stream allowing exotic political structures & monthly elections. Basically a test run for a wild new experimental system."

We could make the monthly elections linked to the recall elections policy, too.

If I haven't replied to your other points, it is well explained for my liking.
3 ups, 2y,
1 reply
My response
"2: What will you do if you win the election? Meme pizza party"
Can you elaborate what the Meme pizza party would do and will it run this term or will it run once IG is nuked again?
●I'm just going to make a bunch of celebration memes about pizza and give out free digital pizza and soda. There's no reason to believe British will have his account deleted again. The reason his last account went away had nothing to do with his bad behavior on this stream.

"5: What do you think about your competitors? Most of em are good people. But the CRT party had their shot and didn't do anything with it."
Thank you for pointing what CTR did (I have to call them CTR so I don't get sacked/fired for running the debate), I would ask you to explain but it would be too much. If you want, do you want to briefly show one thing CRT did on the Section 3 Question 2?
●British's strange combination of censorship bills and hiding in the basement instead of participating in stream activities is well established. Example: his defacto refusal to participate in stream debates to avoid defending his bad behavior.

"6: Will you censor something in the stream if you win? Yes."
What will you censor? Do you realise that we cannot actually censor anything because free speech and constitution.
●I will censor Moonman's accounts. His behavior violates site rules and he will continue to be "dealt with" as long as his behavior violates site rules.

"10: Why should people vote for you? The majority of HOS candidates will either be AWOL (mine turtle) or simply yes men for their party (whoever Incognito guy appoints after Mine turtle.) I'll be here and I'll have my own agendas."
Another point I could tell you about, I bet that Incognito Guy would abuse the senate again, so you're the only hope since CTR is only other party that would have a HoS candidate (which'll be abolish senate since CTR only have 3 members left on their ticket).
●The general public want a Senate that's open to stream users, not party stooges.

"11: What is your agenda (Such as bills proposed)? I want to try to pass a temporary rework of the stream allowing exotic political structures & monthly elections. Basically a test run for a wild new experimental system."
We could make the monthly elections linked to the recall elections policy, too.
●I'll definitely vote for recall elections if given a chance. But I won't introduce the bill. Sloth or slowbamma or whatever already did.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
My response
"2: I'm just going to make a bunch of celebration memes about pizza and give out free digital pizza and soda. There's no reason to believe British will have his account deleted again. The reason his last account went away had nothing to do with his bad behavior on this stream."

I thought the reason why IG's original account got nuked because he called Octavia_Melody a "pedophile".

"11: I'll definitely vote for recall elections if given a chance. But I won't introduce the bill. Sloth or slowbamma or whatever already did."

Actually Slobama tried to introduce the bill but didn't quite get the super majority, we'll try get the bill up and going again

If there's not any points I have debated on, they're all good and there was enough explanation for me.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I'm sure that didn't help him any, as imgflip discourages harrassment.
1 up, 2y,
2 replies
"I'm sure that didn't help him any, as imgflip discourages harrassment."

Which point are you talking about? If you're talking about question 2, I find IG's accusation divisive and even I wouldn't call Octavia_Melody a "pedophile". That's harassment.

If you're talking about question 11, I don't know what you'll be talking about. I hope you're referring to Question 2.
3 ups, 2y
*That's harassment, not you, IG.

FIFY
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
You said: I thought IG's account was deleted for calling Octavia a pedo.
I replied: that certainly didn't help him any. (He's done more than one thing that qualifies as harrassment while on imgflip...)
2 ups, 2y
I previously said: I thought IG's account was deleted for calling Octavia a pedo.
You replied: that certainly didn't help him any. (He's done more than one thing that qualifies as harrassment while on imgflip...)
I replied back: Yes, IG did harass so many users multiple times, calling Octavia a "pedo" was just not the worst IG has done.
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Section 3.

Bonus questions
Don't have to answer at all, although you may answer at least one of them if you feel less sensitive about the other questions:)
1: What is your honest opinion on BritishMormon?
2: Do you have any evidence of BritishMormon harrassing users, being corrupt, etc? Post one per user and encourage others to post other evidence.
3: What is your honest opinion on the stream?
2 ups, 2y
"1: What is your honest opinion on BritishMormon?"

BritishMormon initially seemed like a genuine guy from Real_Politics who agreed with me at first, then invited me into the stream as Surly got BM to advertise the stream as mentioned on this meme's comments (read the last three comments, imgflip.com/i/6q0ifu ). Then I got elected alongside with him. I was active, BritishMormon didn't do much besides approving memes. One day when I was talking about theodemocracy, something was going wrong. Eventually after 2 different arguments and threats to leave the party, I eventually slammed the brakes and then went independent. My overall report on BritishMormon, he's not that good. Once you know BritishMormon, act quick smart and ditch him or he'll control your life and not to mention don't even bother meeting him in the first place because he's real manipulative and would treat you as a slave.

"2: Do you have any evidence of BritishMormon harrassing users, being corrupt, etc? Post one per user and encourage others to post other evidence."

I designed this question for others to post their piece of evidence to show BritishMormon was either unpresidential, corrupt, abusive, etc. I'll answer it anyway so I don't sound like I'm avoiding the question... imgflip.com/i/6wzcx8 (the one and only comment at this rate).

"3: What is your honest opinion on the stream?"

It's a great stream. Most people are respectful and civil and this stream was really aimed for me even though it was going through a crisis with losing active users and I became the ultimate solution
3 ups, 2y,
2 replies
so you're now admitting to not join the debate. No one will consider voting you if you refuse to tell your story (but no one will believe your bluff anyways)
2 ups, 2y
Thus why transparency is important
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
now I see it. But last election, you refused to join the debate. you only joined because you were forced to.
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
its too late, and Surly told you multiple times 2 months ago
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
2 ups, 2y
to join that debate two months ago
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
I know I'm not running for president and especially not for this party but i'm just gonna relieve old times:

1: (let's say I'm running for president) My goal is to keep the stream united and more open to each other and listen to each other's viewpoints more. Not listening is a killer in the stream and only creates division among us.
2: Keep the stream united no matter what as long as it's constitutional
3: CTE party (independent)
4: Patriot party, not left or right. This is about unity.
5: Fak_u_lol needs to get over the anime/anti-anime war conflict. this was harmful to the stream then and it will be if he is in power.
6: Unless something violates TOS or stream rules, no, this creates division.
7: BritishMormon isn't active besides slandering auservative and britishladdie (envoy).
8: Yes, but I don't think anyone is being censored at this moment. and if they are they should tell the president about it. if the president is censoring someone than said person should go up to a global mod (ex. scar, surly)
9: Yes, if you arent this undermines your administrations
10: (not running but will answer anyways) Stream unity, and half of the stream knows me as one of the great presidents
11: Crack down "IG alts" and put an end to this nonsense. If you are an OG of this stream, this was like the WhiteNationalist/MoonMan situation.
12: Center-Right (authoritarian)
13: No unless they do something wrong, then we check that person
14: Political RP, promotes political discussions and debates
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
My turn to debate your points...

"2: Keep the stream united no matter what as long as it's constitutional"

Can you explain how you're going to keep the stream united providing its constitutional and abiding TOS?

"3: CTE party (independent)"

Do you have a running mate yet?

"5: Fak_u_lol needs to get over the anime/anti-anime war conflict. this was harmful to the stream then and it will be if he is in power."

How is the anime/anti-anime war conflict going to be harmful? Can he revive Imgflip_Military?

What's your thoughts on Envoy/BritishLaddie?

"6: Unless something violates TOS or stream rules, no, this creates division."

So you're going to censor hate speech?

"7: BritishMormon isn't active besides slandering auservative and britishladdie (envoy)."

Very true, he isn't that active but we can talk about that on Section 3 of the debate.

"9: Yes, if you arent this undermines your administrations"

Can you explain why transparency is a huge issue within this stream?

"10: (not running but will answer anyways) Stream unity, and half of the stream knows me as one of the great presidents"

What was your bills in the past that made you great? I'm just wondering about your legend.

"11: Crack down "IG alts" and put an end to this nonsense. If you are an OG of this stream, this was like the WhiteNationalist/MoonMan situation."

The ultimate way is to nuke the account but we need more reasons to nuke Incognito Guy again.

If I haven't talked about your other points, you have mentioned enough
2 ups, 2y,
2 replies
"Can you explain how you're going to keep the stream united providing its constitutional and abiding TOS?" I wrote the Original constitution, but after I left to focus for wrestling OlympianProduct took it up and polished it, it's in the stream bio.

"Do you have a running mate yet?" F**k no, If I merge with CTL I have to run against you for HOC because the presidential spot has been decided, or if i run for CTR that means i have to deal with Fak_u_lol and BritishMormon battling for the presidency spot, so I would rather have to hit up a few old friends to run with me. I ran with Wubbzymon last year, and we switched roles and thrived on our presidency.

"How is the anime/anti-anime war conflict going to be harmful? Can he revive Imgflip_Military?" The anime/anti-anime war is just unneccesary bullshit. Jemy's gone, so there's no current high profile anime person in IP, so what's the point of this? Imgflip_military was just General_Zod abusing the f**k out of his power to constantly flame other users and getting into their heads, just ask Scar.

"What's your thoughts on Envoy/BritishLaddie?" I aint even gonna lie Envoy was a huge part in my political career here also, he helped me get out of certain jams and advised me on certain things like wubbzy did.

"So you're going to censor hate speech?" No, this is a stream for debate. I'm talking about p0rn and other things that can happen here, but we have the p0rn police (yes its a stream, i know a few of them) with that. Thank God there hasn't been any pedos in stream before.

"Can you explain why transparency is a huge issue within this stream?" The people want a president to keep them in the loop of things, not being so secretive about other stuff.

"What was your bills in the past that made you great? I'm just wondering about your legend." Like I said, I drafted the original constitution, and other people like OP worked on it to clarify it. We were also pretty involved with IP, reaching out to ally with the Crusaders (ask rmk), and making peace treaties with the Anime Police/ Anti-Anime Association. That is, until I left, but I haven't seen any bs on stream, or anyone monitoring the situation from what i've seen. All I know is Fak_u_lol is promising to "Keep anyone pro-anime out of any power."

"The ultimate way is to nuke the account but we need more reasons to nuke Incognito Guy again." That's if it is proven, and only scar, or if acuity12 rises up and finds a way to find out that britmormon is actually IG
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
"No, this is a stream for debate. I'm talking about p0rn and other things that can happen here, but we have the p0rn police (yes its a stream, i know a few of them) with that. Thank God there hasn't been any pedos in stream before."

I was actually worried that you wanted to censor "hate speech" like a leftist but I'm sure glad we have no pedos that have ever been in this stream. People aged 12 and under aren't even allowed to use this site in the first place so I shouldn't really see why we'd have a pedo in the first place.

"The people want a president to keep them in the loop of things, not being so secretive about other stuff."

Do you believe in talking to people or talking at people?

"Like I said, I drafted the original constitution, and other people like OP worked on it to clarify it. We were also pretty involved with IP, reaching out to ally with the Crusaders (ask rmk), and making peace treaties with the Anime Police/ Anti-Anime Association. That is, until I left, but I haven't seen any bs on stream, or anyone monitoring the situation from what i've seen. All I know is Fak_u_lol is promising to "Keep anyone pro-anime out of any power.""

Thank you for your legend, we must make a meme contest at some point to honour you just like with Chthonic back two months ago (that was when I joined this stream).

"That's if it is proven, and only scar, or if acuity12 rises up and finds a way to find out that britmormon is actually IG"

We'll wait and see what happens, but if IG does get nuked again, Surly would make a meme pizza party.

Any points you think I may have missed, I think your responses are all good otherwise
2 ups, 2y
"Do you believe in talking to people or talking at people?" Talking to, slander is just useless at this point, its gonna create more division
1 up, 2y,
2 replies
My turn to debate...

"I wrote the Original constitution, but after I left to focus for wrestling OlympianProduct took it up and polished it, it's in the stream bio."

Wow, that's very interesting. I want to add the amendments to the constitution to restore the purpose of an amendment so we can have an extensive constitution that everyone (besides snowflakes) are happy about.

"F**k no, If I merge with CTL I have to run against you for HOC because the presidential spot has been decided, or if i run for CTR that means i have to deal with Fak_u_lol and BritishMormon battling for the presidency spot, so I would rather have to hit up a few old friends to run with me. I ran with Wubbzymon last year, and we switched roles and thrived on our presidency."

Good luck with preselection, but don't join CTR. Instead help out with Warlock as I think he's yet to have a running mate. Very interesting story once again with you and Wubbzymon.

"The anime/anti-anime war is just unneccesary bullshit. Jemy's gone, so there's no current high profile anime person in IP, so what's the point of this? Imgflip_military was just General_Zod abusing the f**k out of his power to constantly flame other users and getting into their heads, just ask Scar."

The anti-anime/pro-anime war is quite unnecessary indeed. And the military story, is General_Zod still here? If not, no issues. But if he's still here, I'd have to consider your story. Don't forget to post his story as a reminder to new users just in case they didn't know. I only joined this stream about 2 or 3 months ago and have been a user imgflip for more than a year.

See more on the other comment
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"Instead help out with Warlock as I think he's yet to have a running mate." Who's warlock and what party is he with?
1 up, 2y,
2 replies
Have a look on this meme and find where Warlock's announcement of running for president is...

imgflip.com/i/6wue4r

Warlock, imgflip.com/user/Warl0ck

Party unknown but should be independent like last time. I haven't heard him have a running mate announced, yet.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Warlock isn’t active in stream he’s in role play and ms
1 up, 2y
very true
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
Is he conservative at least?
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
yes
1 up, 2y,
1 reply
ok bet
1 up, 2y
go ask Warlock his values
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
Also zod isn't a threat anymore he got nuked by global mods due to repeated harassment a year ago
1 up, 2y
Nice, therefore, no issues. Thank you for mentioning about zod. However, does he have any alts?
2 ups, 2y,
2 replies
Section 2.

These questions are for the head of Congress and the head of the Senate.

1: If you win, will you make congress or the senate active?
2: How often are you planning to make bills?
3: What will be the first priority if you win?
4: What is your agenda (Such as bills proposed)?
5: What is your political position?
6: Why should we vote for you?
3 ups, 2y
"1: If you win, will you make congress or the senate active?"

I'll make the Congress active and hoping the senate will be active as I'll work alongside with SurlyKong69 if we both get elected. I'll be active as I hope to introduce 5 bills within the space of one term or maybe two if we have more bills introduced.

"2: How often are you planning to make bills?"

I'd like to make bills at least once a week, probably will more realistically be once a week, sometimes twice depending on my calendar.

"3: What will be the first priority if you win?"

My first priority is to have free speech return to its original status like what it was like before Incognito Guy was re-elected.

"4: What is your agenda (Such as bills proposed)?"

The bills and amendments I want to propose includes...

1. Recall Elections.
2. Crackdown on Mail-In Voters.
3. Repeal unconstitutional laws passed by Incognito Guy including decriminalisation of pictures of G-Rated TV show kissing and Gay kissing.
4. An act based on people having to renew their IDs every three months to be considered active.
5. Saving every Amendment possible to restore the purpose of having amendments.

"5: What is your political position?"

It says on my profile that I am Centre-Right to Right Wing and I may need to do another test on my political position through isidewith.com.

"6: Why should we vote for you?"

People should vote me because I have an extensive plan outlined as mentioned on Section 1 Question 2... imgflip.com/i/6x2n05#com21645549
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1 up, 2y,
1 reply
1 up, 2y
"1: As President I have already taken tremendous steps to increase the activity of Congress and the Senate beyond anything this stream has seen for months, and I intend to continue that policy further as Head of Congress. I was also the one keeping Congress alive when SurlyKong69 was President."

You're wanting a miracle? We don't have miracles here, we practice good politics.

"2: As often as necessary, really. I won't try to force activity if that's what you mean. I'm confident our government will be active and productive enough without any need for artificial stimulation."

How many exactly!? in other words, you'll make congress and senate non existent.

"3: To push to pass the bills that were not passed this term."

What your censorship bills!?

"4: I already answered this earlier
5: I already answered this earlier
6: I already answered this earlier"

See earlier responses.
1 up, 2y
* Start Campaigning in the next two weeks, this debate is authorised by Captain Scar and presented by Head of Congress candidate for CTL Auservative

Fify
1 up, 2y
Introduction.

Welcome to the presidential debates of Imgflip. We want a clean debate with honest answers from candidates in the election. (YES) You are allowed to debate the competitor and question their own answers or opinion on the subject of the base debate question.

And yes, HOC, HOS, VP and even civilians are allowed to participate in the debate and question the candidate's answers.
1 up, 2y,
3 replies
Section 1.

1: Why are you running in the election?
2: What will you do if you win the election?
3: What party are you running for?
4: What is the purpose of the Party mentioned above you’re running for?
5: What do you think about your competitors?
6: Will you censor something in the stream if you win?
7: What are your honest thoughts on the stream moderators or the owner?
8: Do you think free speech is one of the most important issue in the stream?
9: Do you think transparency is one of the most important issue in the stream?
10: Why should people vote for you?
11: What is your agenda (Such as bills proposed)?
12: What is your political position?
13: Do you think there are some people in the stream that should be censored?
14: What do you think is the point of this stream?
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
1. Because, as I believe vice presidential candidate slobama put it, a select few members severely lack a "funny bone". People come here to meme.

2. I believe my track record is clear, I have introduced several bills throughout my tenure in several offices, those bills ranging from being entirely a troll to bills I think greatly improve the way the stream is run. My administration will make sure congress runs smoothly and proper trolling is had.

3. I am running under the party I founded, Choose The Left (or CTL for short).

4. The CTL is a clear parody of the opposition, but this does not mean we parrot their goals.

5. Most of my competitors are experienced, and also great additions to the community. I wish them the best of luck.

6. One of my most well-documented beliefs is that of free speech. Censoring every little thing is against the spirit of the stream, which is also well documented.

7. I greatly approve of most of the moderator team, and Captain Scar especially, who is a proven fair, and based moderator.

8. If this was a few months ago, yes. But now, the stream is plagued most by an aforementioned lack of funny.

9. Sure, I think I have shown this in my transparency with the mod logs in the past.

10. I am the candidate for those that are here to have fun, but I do also enjoy the RP side of things. In short, I'm the cool youth pastor candidate.

11. Well, one thing that is clear we need is clearer rules on what is NSFW. I say this because the current administration has taken advantage of these loose guidelines to mark images NSFW incorrectly. My administration would look to prohibit moderators from making these incorrect decisions.

12. I consider myself a "classical liberal", meaning I believe in a free market paired with a limited government and 'certain undeniable' civil liberties.

13. Well, there are certain members that have been rightfully banned. This is usually in accordance with the ToS, which we have no control over. Otherwise, my answer is no.

14. The point of the stream, in my opinion, is this: the stream is a seeming experiment into what the hell happens when you pair memes and trolling with a political roleplay.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
My turn to debate your points.

"2. I believe my track record is clear, I have introduced several bills throughout my tenure in several offices, those bills ranging from being entirely a troll to bills I think greatly improve the way the stream is run. My administration will make sure congress runs smoothly and proper trolling is had."

And in this office, you've made the one and only bill that actually got enacted, yet we haven't saved the amendment to the constitution and therefore new users won't know about the amendment. I believe we should save all the amendments that were enacted and place them onto the constitution page so we can restore the sole purpose of an amendment.

"4. The CTL is a clear parody of the opposition, but this does not mean we parrot their goals."

And I'm pretty sure its also a two parties in one: a combination of NERD and Pepe.

"11. Well, one thing that is clear we need is clearer rules on what is NSFW. I say this because the current administration has taken advantage of these loose guidelines to mark images NSFW incorrectly. My administration would look to prohibit moderators from making these incorrect decisions."

What would you consider NSFW and how would you do it differently to Choose the Right?

Any other points I haven't debated on are all good.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
2.
That sounds reasonable

4.
You could’ve certainly make that case

11.
Well that’s the thing, what is NSFW should not have to be defined by us. The TOS lays it out for us. When I say clearer rules on NSFW I mean a potential penalty for repeat offenders of mod abuse in this area.
2 ups, 2y
My turn to debate your point...

"11.
Well that’s the thing, what is NSFW should not have to be defined by us. The TOS lays it out for us. When I say clearer rules on NSFW I mean a potential penalty for repeat offenders of mod abuse in this area."

We can certainly rely on TOS on what NSFW means, not make additional authoritarian laws that are unlawful and violates our constitution.

Otherwise, your points have got enough information for me.
2 ups, 2y,
1 reply
"1: Why are you running in the election?"

I am running this election because I have a plan to end the Choose the Right Theory madness and want to make this stream safe again with an extensive plan to make this stream the way it was.

"2: What will you do if you win the election?"

If I win, my outline will be mentioned on the campaigns I'll make but I'll announce it here while I'm at it... I believe in...
1. Recalling elections,
2. Keeping IDs abolished but only for voting so we can have genuine active users running politics rather than some mail-in voters going to be so called congresspeople and senators when they actually make the houses dwindled to basically at the very most a minimal.
3. I also want a crackdown on mail-in voters so we can have no rigged elections just like the last one possibly being rigged but we'll need to investigate it once we're in power.
4. We must get free speech back into play and
5. Let's remove the unlawful and unconstitutional laws and precedents Incognito Guy created such as Children’s show kissing pictures.
6. Don't forget the way we'll get the recalled elections started is to issue approval rating polls to be made at least twice every three weeks without a bill.
7. We'll mandate a renewal of mandated IDs bill with IDs needing to be renewed every three months to see if the users are active and if they are mail-in voters.
8. We'll save every amendment possible including Envoy's recent CAESCS amendment (imgflip.com/i/6towlc ).
9. Revive Imgflip_Military.
10. Revive ImgflipBank to eventually privatise it by having it auctioned off by a big stream owned by people with huge amounts of Imgflip Bucks.
11. A quiz festival will come at some point but won't be a priority at the moment, but a good idea if we get bored or if the stream is inactive.
12. Improve activity on Imgflip_Presidents as a huge priority to make this stream no 1.

See more answers on the next comment...
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3: What party are you running for?

Easy, the Choose the Left Party. Used to run for Choose the Right Party but resigned due to a shocking revelation about BritishMormon being Incognito Guy conducted by the global mods and the report being finalised by Scar... imgflip.com/i/6wpnil

4: What is the purpose of the Party mentioned above you’re running for?

My purpose to run the Choose the Left Party out of all parties was actually interesting. I wanted to run because I wanted to get BritishMormon out of politics and I chose Choose the Left Party because it seemed to be the most powerful party that can stop the Fascism movements Incognito Guy is performing as well as his slaves.

5: What do you think about your competitors?

Interesting question, we don't really have much competitors at this rate like we obviously have Choose the Right Theory and a whole bunch of minor parties which the biggest minor party I would say is Better Vote Saul party. The head of congress candidates from who I recall of those parties is only BritishMormon (Incognito Guy). My thoughts on BritishMormon, it's a long story, but I'll make it summarised...

BritishMormon initially seemed like a genuine guy from Real_Politics who agreed with me at first, then invited me into the stream as Surly got BM to advertise the stream as mentioned on this meme's comments (read the last three comments, imgflip.com/i/6q0ifu ). Then I got elected alongside with him. I was active, BritishMormon didn't do much besides approving memes. One day when I was talking about theodemocracy, something was going wrong. Eventually after 2 different arguments and threats to leave the party, I eventually slammed the brakes and then went independent. My overall report on BritishMormon, he's not that good. Once you know BritishMormon, act quick smart and ditch him or he'll control your life and not to mention don't even bother meeting him in the first place because he's real manipulative and would treat you as a slave.

Other candidates, no one else at this rate but that's the end of the question anyways.
2 ups, 2y,
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"6: Will you censor something in the stream if you win?"

Not at all unless I believe it violates TOS and I have my own beliefs in what is Racism and what is Homophobia, etc. I believe in free speech and will expand on it on question 8.

"7: What are your honest thoughts on the stream moderators or the owner?"

They'd initially be not the best because if you are conservative, its really hard to get a good reputation with global mods because of conservatives in the past being divisive. I am a conservative but it took me a while to like the mods. But until I discovered that BritishMormon is Incognito Guy, I preferred Scar over Surly but now most of them, if not all of them are quite chill. These mods are serious memers but are quite friendly once you get to know them and if you aren't on their dark side. Scar the owner is not an "oppressive dictator" as what Incognito Guy described Scar on ImgflipGovernment (imgflip.com/m/ImgflipGovernment ). OlympianProduct is good as well and is very interesting. I think he supports Putin but is a libertarian (right leaning), and owns the Conservatives stream which I follow that as well.

Overall, even though the mods haven't changed, I have matured with my attitude towards the mods and actually think they are good.

"8: Do you think free speech is one of the most important issue in the stream?"

Very basic question but I'll analyse it. The answer is of course I support free speech and I certainly believe that it is one of the most important issue. Despite the stream actually having free speech around unlike other streams, the freedom of speech has been abused and BritishMormon aka IG has been trying to end free speech but luckily we have stopped most of his bills from passing because he would have been a huge threat towards the more mainstream users which this stream's political position is Centre-Right although we do have respectful Liberals who share their views and actually don't censor people, but agree to disagree just like with me agreeing to disagree with the liberals but it will be a long term thing. Either way, free speech is a huge issue I'll tackle if I'm elected.
3 ups, 2y
"9: Do you think transparency is one of the most important issue in the stream?"

Certainly it is a massive issue to tackle. We haven't had much transparent government members of the CRT party even though I was a part of it but was the most transparent one (not bragging but you can easily tell). In fact, transparency is one of the reasons why I ditched CRT and went for CTL.

"10: Why should people vote for you?"

People should vote me because I have an extensive plan outlined as mentioned on Question 2.

"11: What is your agenda (Such as bills proposed)?"

The bills and amendments I want to propose includes...

1. Recall Elections.
2. Crackdown on Mail-In Voters.
3. Repeal unconstitutional laws passed by Incognito Guy including decriminalisation of pictures of G-Rated TV show kissing and Gay kissing.
4. An act based on people having to renew their IDs every three months to be considered active.
5. Saving every Amendment possible to restore the purpose of having amendments.

"12: What is your political position?"

It says on my profile that I am Centre-Right to Right Wing and I may need to do another test on my political position through isidewith.com.

"13: Do you think there are some people in the stream that should be censored?"

I wouldn't censor someone but if I was forced to pick one from this stream, it must be IncognitoGuy/BritishMormon.

"14: What do you think is the point of this stream?"

The point of this stream is supposed to be where everyone can roleplay as a politician where we can have anyone welcome regardless of their views (except for those who get banned) and basically show our views with polls like Anglophobia/Anglophillia. Another point is to really make this stream better so we can have more fun but at the moment, we're in a war with our president.

Conclusion...

That's all for the section 1 in the debate
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3 ups, 2y
My Turn to debate your points...

"1: I am running for Head of Congress because Captain_Scar has revoked my constitutional right to seek a 2nd term as President based on an erroneous alting smear against me that has been spread in an attempt to damage my reputation."

Actually, if you ran again, that would be your third term and that's unconstitutional. And Scar didn't just do it because of a false rumour, the rumour is proven true. Do you know that global mods can tell whether one is an alt or not? And don't accuse Scar of alt smearing against you to damage your reputation, your reputation is already bad. You should never have rejoined imgflip to damage the stream.

"2: I will continue to serve the people of IMGFLIP_PRESIDENTS to the best of my ability, but as Head of Congress instead of President like I am now."

You're avoiding the question. What are your policies if you win? I know why you're avoiding the question, so you don't reveal yourself for being an alt.

"4: What is the purpose of the Party mentioned above you’re running for?"

Don't just copy the question and expect me to answer it, go and read it yourself. Tell me what the purpose of running CTR?

"5: Despite our differences, I respect all my competitors just like I respect everyone on this stream. We could use some more civility and good sportsmanship on here."

As if. You banned from Real_Politics for no reason besides your conspiracy theories that are unproven, in other words, discrimination. AND, you attempted to censor Slobama, TWICE! When you said "We could use some more civility and good sportsmanship on here", tell me how? And why couldn't you do what you promised this term?

"6: Not without good reason, no. And you can trust me to be faithful to that commitment because I haven't censored anything throughout my Presidency."

You have tried to censor someone, you had your chances to be trusted and you were trying to colonise this stream into Real_Politics. And when you said you haven't censored anything throughout your presidency, you have tried to though, TWICE!

"7: What are your honest thoughts on the stream moderators or the owner?"

Again, you haven't answered this question. Go answer it.
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"8: Yes, and I have been thoroughly committed to upholding and defending the right to freedom of speech. I have not once deleted any comments or unfeatured any images on IMGFLIP_PRESIDENTS."

You simply don't. I thought conservatives were for free speech and supported the first amendment. But you tried to censor Slobama twice and how many times did I tell you this? Just admit you're not learning from the same mistakes you're making.

"9: Yes, and I have been thoroughly committed to transparency as well. For example, when Captain_Scar attempted to blackmail me privately on memechat, I publicised his corrupt message despite what he was threatening to do to me. Because I am committed to openness and transparency in our democracy, no matter what the personal cost to me might be."

Which you have zero signs of transparency. And no Captain_Scar hasn't blackmailed you at all. Go and look up what blackmail really means. You always abuse others but put yourself first. Despite you "publicised his "corrupt" message", he wasn't actually corrupt. You even called him an oppressive dictator on ImgflipGovernment. Again, you kept saying "ooh I'm transparent" when you ain't transparent. None of the party's bills were actually enacted, they were all just political stunts. And when you say "our democracy" you actually wanted a so called Theodemocracy when you actually went by either Theocracy or Totalitarianism.
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1 up, 2y
I don't want to argue but this is not the spot to go offending users.

I haven’t censored anyone though.

"And you have zero evidence of me being abusive apart from having your feelings hurt."

Go look harder on what you actually said.

"CTL is all about obstructing bills for their own political benefit."

Because you're doing the exact same thing on the recall elections bill for your political benefit. you even tried to veto AndrewFinlayson from being temporary owner.

"You’re just desperate to stop me accomplishing anything."

Which you have accomplished many things months ago before your original account got nuked. You tried to privatise ImgflipBank with such vague details, resulting in the bank to even close in the first place.

"It really is a miracle that my term has still gone pretty well regardless."

You tried to rig the election and you have gotten users to vote you just because they're conservative. It's up to the individual user to vote whoever, you CAN'T force someone to vote you.

"Just shows how much this stream needs a CTR government."

Which you were already in charge previously in January most likely with Right Unity. You've had your chances to prove you ain't IncognitoGuy, and these global mods ain't stupid. You have to be one of the most obvious alts out there on the site
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"10: Because I have been an extremely active and committed President who has overseen record participation in Congress and the Senate. I ratified Caescs, filled Congress for the first time in goodness-knows how long, and been thoroughly committed to upholding the fundamental freedoms of our citizens (hence why I have not committed a single act of censorship throughout my term). I've also had just about every conceivable low-blow attack thrown at me throughout my term, yet I have withstood it all because I am so dedicated to making this stream greater. I intend to continue this work ethic and set of successful policies as your Head of Congress."

Again, you only really made slanderous comments and approved memes and refused to take part of the contests. You dwindled congress to an absolute minimum and senate was non existent. With the Caescs bill, that was Envoy's bill and he was representing Pepe at the time. Slobama's recall election bill was the only other good bill but didn't quite have enough votes because you forced your voters to vote nay on a crucial bill.

"11: To pass my amendment to officially ratify Captain_Scar's Congress and Senate allocation rule into the Constitution"

Can you explain how? And you cannot abolish senate. What will you actually do to the precious senate?

"12: A mix of ideologies like Christian Nationalism, Paleoconservatism, and Right-wing Populism. I also support Theodemocracy and the #DezNat movement."

At least you admitted you're a Christian Nationalist. it turns out when I said Mormon Nationalism, I made that ideology up, you actually admitted the truth for the first time in a LOOOOOOONG time (but that'll be your only truth considering how untrustworthy it is). Paleoconservatism, that's basically far right politics. Right-wing populism, you don't say. Theodemocracy, more like theocracy or totalitarianism. DezNat movement, The Guardian described it as a nationalist movement.

"13: Not really"

More lies, you censored everyone who stood in your way.

"14: To role play people as Presidents (and other government positions) through bimonthly elections, and to have fun campaigning and governing."

Which you abused the definition of this stream.
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Is McKennzo aware you’re censoring conservatives on his stream? Because I can’t imagine he would be okay with that.
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3 ups, 2y,
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So if I were to check the list of banned users for Real Politics, the name Auservative won’t be listed near the bottom as both comment and post banned?
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3 ups, 2y,
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Can you link examples of Auservative doing any of those things?
1 up, 2y
IncognitoGuy: Suservative being liberal by joining the leftist CTL Party”

OP: You mean the party where the only actual leftist is Sloth, everyone else is right wing/libertarian?

Me: Slobama is the only leftist in that party. I previously believed that CTL was a "CULT" of CRT, but I was wrong because I believed Incognito's conspiracy theories. CTL is called Choose the Left not because we are choosing to be in the left of centre with politics but because we have left the corruptness of CRT. Plus the name is labelled for reuse because I'm eventually planning CRT to be banned because the Conservative and Right Unity Parties are already banned.

IG: Suservative being anti-conservative by calling the conservative CTR Party supporters "far right fascists"”

OP: Sure, CRT party has conservative individuals in like Fak, but no, it’s not a conservative party, it’s an “I do whatever IG tells me to do” party, and don’t pretend it’s not, because this is the exact way you ran RUP and Conservative Party. Auservative had enough and left, simple as that. I’ll agree calling CRT “far right fascists” is inaccurate, but can you really blame him considering your record?

Me: I actually exaggerated by calling CRT a fascist party, what I said was that those who supported IncognitoGuy's fascism in his CRT, then they support Fascism.

IG: Suservative being anti-Christian by calling the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints a cult

OP: He didn’t say Mormonism is a cult, he said “because people say it’s a cult”.
And no, Mormonism is not Christianity, so claiming that criticism of Mormonism violates the stream rules is wrong.

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/church/mormonism-is-not-christianity-11628184.html?amp=1

So are you going to reverse the bans you issued to Auservative or are you keeping them in place simply because you don’t like him and can’t be honest about it, like when you banned me and Andrew as IncognitoGuy?

Me: Mormonism is actually a different religion, like judaism. What about those users who are anti catholic that are conservative. Some conservatives like MTG are anti catholic. Catholic is still Christian but not Protestant. Yes, we need me, Andrew, and you [OlympianProduct] to have the ban reversed by IncognitoGuy. Worse case scenario, I'll just post more often on Conservatives and australian_politics more often.
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3 ups, 2y
Did you read the article I linked?
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4 ups, 2y
“Suservative being liberal by joining the leftist CTL Party”

You mean the party where the only actual leftist is Sloth, everyone else is right wing/libertarian?

“Suservative being anti-conservative by calling the conservative CTR Party supporters "far right fascists"”

Sure, CRT party has conservative individuals in like Fak, but no, it’s not a conservative party, it’s an “I do whatever IG tells me to do” party, and don’t pretend it’s not, because this is the exact way you ran RUP and Conservative Party. Auservative had enough and left, simple as that. I’ll agree calling CRT “far right fascists” is inaccurate, but can you really blame him considering your record?

“Suservative being anti-Christian by calling the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints a cult”

He didn’t say Mormonism is a cult, he said “because people say it’s a cult”.
And no, Mormonism is not Christianity, so claiming that criticism of Mormonism violates the stream rules is wrong.

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/church/mormonism-is-not-christianity-11628184.html?amp=1

So are you going to reverse the bans you issued to Auservative or are you keeping them in place simply because you don’t like him and can’t be honest about it, like when you banned me and Andrew as IncognitoGuy?
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