I'm a communist and I'm not going to change my mind

You don't have to change your mind, but you ARE an idiot.

Why?

It's one thing to be a socialist, but being a communist is a whole other ball game. Communism for starters leads to totalitarianism, political repression, restrictions of human rights, poor economic performance and cultural and artistic censorship.

If you became a communist because you believe in human decency and that people deserve to have their needs tended to that's ok, but I'd advise you to turn back from this dark path you walk.
If you became a communist for ulterior reasons, or perhaps you were radicalised by memes surrounding it, you might have an element of corruption within you that needs correcting.
I am in no way saying you should become a greedy pure-capitalist, just be careful on which path your mind wanders as you can end up in a very dark place and if I can help you avoid radicalisation I will help you in any way I can. Yes. It denies economic liberty, self determination, religious liberty, property, & is a basic form of slavery.
A free person keeps the money they earn. A slave doesn't. Planting slave owners claimed all wealth created by slaves. Communist govts claim all wealth created by workers.
Ironically, it is communists who constantly bring up slavery from the past, & denounce it, while ignoring economic hardship, deprivation, murder, & oppression in commie cultures.
Communism is likely the most dreadful blight on humanity as it's built on reasonable human desires but in practice it is an impossibility that denies the beauty of the human experience for pragmatic dogma.

First off, communism is where people do their jobs to maintain society, everyone gets their needs attended and there's no money, everything is basically for free, there's no government or any ruler because everyone does what they are supposed to, everyone is asked to do something based on their capabilities and maintained based on their needs. There's no opression, no slavery, it's basically a perfect world, and that's the weak point of the communism, if a significant amount of people get greedy and don't do their job, society collapses because they aren't providing the resources or services the world needs.

Yeah, no. I could say "I'm a Utopian" and pretend I wouldn't eat a 10pc with a shake right now.

???

You don't?

I don't understand

>First off, communism is where people do their jobs to maintain society, everyone gets their needs attended and there's no money, everything is basically for free

Nothing's for free you dafty, someone has to work for goods and services. And if you expect a bunch of people to throw away their ambitions and goals for a bunch of lazy bastards and empty-headed dreamer's hallucinating a false paradise then you've got another thing coming, sunshine.

>there's no government or any ruler because everyone does what they are supposed to.

No government or ruler, at all? That tells me you know absolutely hee-haw about human nature or how civilisations function. Humans are pack animals and always gravitate towards a strong leader.
And what if somebody doesn't want to work for the benefit of another? Say I decide not to work for your 'paradise' and I organise a group of likeminded dissidents to rout your society, create a new society that provides security and protection to the citizens which includes a pension, and a healthcare plan. What then for your commie paradise?

>There's no oppression, no slavery, it's basically a perfect world, and that's the weak point of the communism

Weak point? Kid that's it's not its 'weak point' that's communism's fatal flaw. It's a complete fantasy to imagine a paradise when the point of life is to face hardships, struggle and overcome advisarry - to survive; That is how evolution works at a basic level. Your 'perfect world' can't even be sustained in your own logic, do you not understand that even YOUR own mind is telling you that your ideology has failed upon review? This is why I called you an idiot as it would be an accurate assessment.

>if a significant amount of people get greedy and don't do their job, society collapses because they aren't providing the resources or services the world needs.

I know a good way to keep these people motivated to work:
PAY THEM
And allow them to spend their money as they see fit. Allow them to live their life and chose their own destiny. Then instead of working and existing solely for the benefit of others regardless of how useless those others may be, they can work and earn their keep on their own terms. This is basic economics. You might want to read a book or go out and work for a living like the rest of us and maybe then you'll have an epiphany and turn your back on Marxism.

Whatever, I'm not arguing with you anymore, it will just make us get more angry.
Have a nice day.

Ahh you've entered the 1st and 2nd stages of grief:
-Anger
-Denial
Soon you'll undergo:
-Bargaining
-Depression
And finally:
-Acceptance

You started attacking me in your argument instead of attacking communism, that's a sign we're getting toxic

I explained communism's flaws and its idiotic utopianism. You mistook that for an attack on you personally. Yes I called you an idiot but that was a prerequisite to my takedown of your ideology.
The fact that you feel that I'm am attacking you as I am attacking communism itself shows that you haven't the maturity to understand my attempts to help you understand the flaws of your views and steer you on a sensible path. A (lack of) maturity that explains your affinity for a failed, utopian ideology.

Here's what I know:

You don't get my point, I don't get your point, we won't get anywhere if continue, so please stop, this isn't healthy.

Don't deflect by projecting onto me. Just accept my help and put aside your ego.

Yeah, but I don't want to make you feel angry, if we continue we will get to a toxic discussion and it's not healthy fo neither of us.
Besides, I already explained to you what communism is about, everything else is your opinion and I can't change it.

Also it's pretty early in the morning here, yeah like 11:30 am

Kid, it's got nothing to do with anger. I'm not angry with you or your position, I'm disappointed and feel a little pity for you that you fell into such a sad state of mind.
You explained communism to me yes - but in that explanation you already pointed out a fatal flaw. YOU defeated yourself in your explanation to me. How are you blind to that revelation?
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11:30 is almost midday, that's not early at all. Your logic fails on so many occasions, it is either a testament to your (lack) intelligence and maturity, or a statement of your ignorance.

Just stop, and go grab a nice cup of coffee and I'll do it too, no need for more arguing.

Stop it, don't try to convince me.

I couldn't reply to your latest comment.

I'm following you

Take a deep breath and stop to think. Don't project your rage and denial onto me. Face yourself and accept that I'm right and that you made a mistake. You couldn't reply to my arguments only shut yourself off and run from the debate. You can't make me angry, don't worry about that.

Text me at meme chat, I'm following

You're just acting like the meme above

You're delusional and playing the victim.

Yes, that's you opinion.

I explained the fatal flaw of communism because I wanted to give a more neutral definition.

The 11:30 was a joke referring that I wake up late.

>Yes, that's you opinion.

if I tell you that if you drop an apple, it will fall to the ground because of a force called gravity, that is not an opinion it is a fact. Same goes for my takedown of communism.

>I explained the fatal flaw of communism because I wanted to give a more neutral definition.

And in doing so you gave a big reason (a fatal one at that) as to why communism will easily fail.

I'll bet that you think it looks really good on paper and the only reason that it's failed every time that it's been tried is because the right people haven't been doing it, right?

Exactly, and the USSR wasn't communist, it was totalitarianism but they said it was communism to keep people happy, and that's why it fell

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