Not surprisingly, he also thinks atheism and secular humanism are religions

It depends on what your definition of religion is. If it's a group of people saying my truth is right and yours is wrong then he's not far off. You can worship your own version of truth and make it almost like a religion.

Do you have a link to this specific talk or the name of the preacher? Hard to assess what he said without hearing him first.

Interesting. I will take a listen thanks! That title though 🤣

Since you posted the same comment twice i thought it was a glitch so that's also why I didn't upvote but i see that's just a trick of yours to get more upvotes 😉

suuure, blame it on bad reception. Bad reception is like that lousy party I went to after my half sister's wedding where they didn't even have music or drinks.

no kidding, I was bummed since I drove 4 hours to attend. But she got married in her late 40's so maybe she was just too tired, lol

Bad reception deception, lol

How do you define religion?

Land sakes you are unforgiving about those upvotes aren't you? I forget occasionally, I'm more concerned about responding.

"An organized set of beliefs involving a higher power and usually an afterlife, and which includes a set of rules or guidelines for how to live one's life"

Could that not also describe an athiest? The dichotomy being those who believe in a higher power and afterlife and those who don't. Your belief system still involves a diety and afterlife. Do you have a set of rules or guidelines that you use in your life or is it a free for all?

oh, you're guilty alright Octavianeezer Scrooge

"I do, but they don't come from a god or religion. They largely come from things like empathy and wanting to promote human/societal flourishing."

so like natural/moral law? where does that come from?

Can you trace down in history when these agreed upon laws came to be?

Hmm, don't kill, don't steal, sounds oddly like another set of rules.... 10 of them 😉

more like this ;)