Ronald Reagan was a liberal - discuss

yeah and he also granted amnesty to a couple million illegal immigrants, you missed that

also, is an AK-47 a machine gun? Yes or no

Depends

in it's intended form

That's a trick question, the AK-47 comes in both automatic and semi-automatic versions. (I'm pretty sure)

well I just ask that because last time sloth posted the reagan ak quote to me he was all like "an AK-47 may not be a machine gun like Reagan said, but he's got the right idea" or whatever

and then I bullied him for saying that and he didn't respond

Agreed Reagan is wrong - an AK-47 is not a machine gun - astute observation and this is indeed more evidence of Regan's cluelessness, and his radical Leftist anti-gun agenda

do you know what a machine gun is?

A machine gun puts out continuous fire for as long as the trigger is pulled — until your ammo runs out. An AK-47 isn’t a machine gun, per se, though it is an “assault rifle,” a fuzzier category.

So — Reagan misspoke. Technically. Seems to me he used the term “machine gun” colloquially to mean “a gun that puts out more firepower than any civilian needs.”

Reagan wasn’t the only Republican who thought this way! See: Sen. Goldwater.

What Reagan lacked in technical precision he more than made up in plain common sense.

that's what an AK-47 does, it's fully automatic

it's in the name

ok but what does freedom of the press have to do with being a liberal?

I think press freedom is pretty foundational to liberalism.

Note I'm talking small-l liberalism - the tradition of thought that descends from Enlightenment thinkers, and the principle influence upon the U.S. Constitution.

Was Ronald Reagan a small-l liberal? No doubt about it.

And so was Teddy!

And I can cherry pick out of context quotes from any of your liberal presidents and claim they were far right. What about it?
I can quote 50 out of context quotes from Obama and say he was anti gay and anti immigrant and pro gun.
I can quote 50 out of context quotes from Biden and say he's anti black and anti abortion.
I can quote 50 out of context quotes from Clinton to say he's way far right of fat Donny.
What about it?
The definition of "liberal" has swung so fuvking far to the left that liberals of 50 years ago would be immediately #metooed and kicked out of the party for refusing to get on their knees for the new left's jackbooted globalist insanity. What about it?
It's meaningless trolling.
We know Reagan was conservative because the left hated him when he was alive. End of story.

Bill Clinton’s still alive and he has, in fact, been #MeTooed out of the modern Democratic Party, pretty much. Despite his fairly popular and successful Presidency, it’s striking how little he is discussed or remembered or even asked for on the campaign trail.

Similarly, George W. Bush — despite being the only two-term Republican President since Reagan — is all but completely shunned by the GOP of today.

Joe Biden held basically all the same stances Bill Clinton held back in the day, but has indeed moved to the Left along with the trajectory of the rest of the Party.

Donald Trump was, famously, a Democrat, then ran for the Reform Party (whatever that was) in 2000, before becoming such a Republican in the 2010s that he ended up singlehandedly redefining what being a Republican meant.

Tony Blair in Britain was hugely popular in his time, won 3 elections, now everyone despises him.

And Ronald Reagan would maybe, maaaaybe have a place in the modern GOP, if he were still alive, as a Mitt Romney-like moderate Senator.

Parties change! Politicians change! That’s my only point.

No. Your "ONLY POINT" is to falsely claim that Reagan was lefty and a would agree with all of your nonsense if he was alive.
But from using his quotes about machine guns as if they apply to all rifles to falsely claiming he was pro abortion, you chose to misrepresent his politics for the sake of trolling. Nothing more.

I didn't say "Lefty." I said liberal. Ronald Reagan a Leftist? No, someone who slashed taxes, entitlements, and regulations, busted unions, coddled corporations, and pumped up military spending as much as Reagan did could never be considered a Leftist.

But Ronald Reagan a liberal? In the classical, pro-democracy, pro-freedom, philosophical sense that our Founding Fathers were, absolutely.

And a liberal in the modern sense? Well... maybe!

Whatever label you want to slap on it, Reagan would be out-of-place in today's Republican Party. Positions on core issues that would raise quite a few eyebrows.

Good try tho.