Trump's NC rally demonstrates ignorance is bliss among his supporters...

NC citizens - hours ago - demonstrated how to become a poster child for political ignorance in one easy lesson. One part of me feels sorry for them, as they have no idea they've been politically manipulated nor brainwashed; another part of me is pissed they're all to willing to believe in total BS - without investigation - if their favored political leader(s) and allies espouse it.

If you knew what JFK stood for... you'd know he would be classified as a Republican today...

Where are you getting that from? Larry Elder and/or others allied with Prager "University", which is not even a real university or even an accredited educational institution but merely a pro conservative advocacy group?

Like I said if you knew what JFK stood for...

I lived through his presidency. Did you?

So you don't know how his politics stacks up with today's democrats?

Thought so... thanks

I'll take your response as a no. I know exactly what Kennedy's positions were on multiple issues, some of which I agreed with, others I didn't. You might as well pronounce Eisenhower more closely aligns with todays Dems than Republicans, given that he was entirely against the expansion of the military/industrial complex and warned against it.

What you're doing is cherry picking tidbits from Kennedy's entire foreign & domestic policies that you think adds credence to MAGA's position while ignoring every other facet of his positions that render your argument moot. The only reason why MAGA's attempted to co-opt Kennedy is because he was a highly popular president.

You can't compare 1960s America to 2022 America. They are two completely different realities, as too the political reasoning and positions each party takes at any given moment in history. One thing I'm 100% sure about though, in the 60s no one ever foresaw a time when a conman like Trump would've ever been permitted to gained the presidency, let alone the vast majority of the Republican party knowingly supporting his lies about a stolen election to retain their own political power.

Nixon's resignation and rightful downfall occurred only because Republicans held him to account for his criminalities. These days, they're more interested in retaining power at any cost - including defending a coup attempt - ethics be damned. How you can defend that shit is beyond me.

So, if Kennedy were alive now, which party would he belong to? It’s impossible to know, of course. But we can compare his political positions to those of today’s Democratic Party.

On race:

JFK disliked the idea of using racial preferences and quotas to make up for historic racism and discrimination. Today, affirmative action is Democratic Party orthodoxy, but Kennedy thought such policies were counterproductive.

“I don’t think we can undo the past,” Kennedy said. “We have to do the best we can now…I don’t think quotas are a good idea…We are too mixed, this society of ours, to begin to divide ourselves on the basis of race or color.”

On taxes:

Kennedy was an ardent proponent of across-the-board tax cuts, believing that more cash in the hands of all Americans, including the so-called wealthy, and a lighter footprint from the IRS would grow the economy. “A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits,” Kennedy said in an address to the nation shortly before his death. “Every taxpayer and his family will have more money left over after taxes for a new car, a new home, new conveniences, education and investment. Every businessman can keep a higher percentage of his profits in his cash register or put it to work expanding or improving his business.”

On foreign policy:

Kennedy was very firm about his red lines. When the Soviet Union built missile sites in Cuba, leading to what is known as the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy threatened a decisive military response. The Soviet Union backed down. JFK believed, as Ronald Reagan did, in peace through strength, not strength through peace. In his inaugural address, Kennedy made the case for a strong U.S. military. He saw this as the only way to deter America’s enemies. “Only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt,” he said, “can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed.”

On gun rights:

Kennedy was one of eight U.S. presidents who was a lifetime member of the NRA. Here’s what he said about the Second Amendment: “We need a nation of minutemen – citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life, and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom.”

On abortion:

Kennedy was assassinated a decade before the landmark Supreme Court case Roe v. Wade. Abortion was not a major issue during his administration.

But we do know that he nominated Justice Byron White, a Democrat, to the Supreme Court. White was one of two justices who dissented in Roe v. Wade. We also know that Kennedy abhorred Japan’s post-WWII use of abortion as a means of population control, saying: “On the question of limiting population: As you know, the Japanese have been doing it very vigorously, through abortion, which I think would be repugnant to all Americans.”

Today, if a Democrat advocated the positions on race, taxes, foreign policy, guns and abortion that our 35th president once did, he wouldn’t be a Democrat. He’d belong to that other party.

You literally quoted, verbatim, Larry Elder's (of Prager "University") entire premise. How did I know that's exactly where you got that idea from? Some of us actually read widely, from multiple national & international sources to gain knowledge, rather than seek confirmation bias as to our political opinion.

You'd be far better served by reading the entire Wikipedia page on Kennedy than actually believing the skewed perspective this guy is trying to promote. At least Wikipedia's portrayal is largely accurate, reflecting his entire philosophy rather than merely cherry picking issues that serves a particular partisan agenda.

In brief, here are some actual facts about Kennedy: he was Irish Catholic (at at time when both were still being highly discriminated against in the US); Catholics then, as now, don't believe in abortion nor divorce (though it's amazing how many of them still find a way to have their decades long marriages annullled by the church - rendering their children 'bastards' - in order to dissolve their marriages and remarry, with the Church's blessing). Kennedy was also a highly reckless serial philanderer - having many affairs throughout his marriage - at times posing a high security risk to the US. Do you want to embrace that too?

He was also a strong proponent of civil rights, better housing for veterans, better health care for all, organized labor's drive for better working conditions & more reasonable hours, ecological preservations, public housing, improved educational standards, non discrimination of immigrants, peaceful resolutions to complex issues, separation of Church & State in political issues, and favored - against his advisor's advice - a balanced budget over reducing taxes, etc, etc, etc.

He was appalled by the death penalty, as too Senators putting their own self serving careers over their public duty (which we see today with almost every Republican in Congress propping up Trump's elections lies, knowing full well he legitimately lost the election). His book "Profiles in Courage" addresses those issues.

So tell me again how Kennedy's suddenly become MAGA's poster boy when he was largely always its antithesis

BTW... I doubt you even know that the only reason why the USSR ever put missiles into Cuba was because the US had previously put missiles into Turkey, aimed at the USSR. That's an inconvenient fact that largely gets suppressed in US media, though never in international news, nor in history books.

So he got it from the same place?

WOW