Militant vegans trying to justify feeding cats vegan diets despite cats being strict carnivores...

You do know cats already eat plants, Right?
It's part of their natural diet

They only eat them occasionally. They still require meat to survive.
Vegan Cat=animal abuse

"Strict Carnivorous Animals" my ass.

They only nibble ppants occasionally. They still need meat to survive.

Still they need meat

Link for the video here, get ready to raid the comment section and dislike bomb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMDQ7LDFPzM&t=32s

Link for the video here, get ready to raid the comment section and dislike bomb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMDQ7LDFPzM&t=32s

Sorry, but no; while they do subsist primarily on caught prey, cats aren't strictly carnivorous.

Never reply to GoldCrusade, Save yourself the brain cells and just flag and ignore, This guy's ignorance has no limit
You'll thank me later

Eh... chalk it up to a masochistic drive to test Mark Twain's advice on arguing with stupid people. ; )

Trust me, It's not worth it, It's like trying to polish a turd

Dude i am not ignorant. Cats cannot be vegan.

Dude i am not ignorant. Cats cannot be vegan. Dont listen to Reaper. He is just a horny furry who hates me because i have different opinions on its fandom

I never said cats can be vegan -I said that they're not strictly carnivores.

Still sounded liek the former

What you imagine I wrote is on you; what's there is what's there in black and white, no more, no less.

Dude i am not ignorant. Cats cannot be vegan.

Dude. Veterinarians said that cats are obligatory carnivores. They primarily require meat. The same with dogs.

Exactly: primarily; what cats require is digestible matter and prey animals happen to be a good source of such. Obligatory carnivores can't/won't eat anything but meat, bone; both felines and canines can and do eat vegetal matter in the wild. Similarly, many people mistakenly believe bovines and equines are obligatory herbivores; they're not -what they are is poorly adapted to hunting prey. Cows/horses which stumble upon baby birds fallen from nests will not hesitate to eat them. Wolves eat fruit & berries (same as dogs). Rabbits kill and eat birds. When large animals die in the woods, deer are usually first to find and scavenge the body. There are very few obligate carnivores/herbivores on earth. Most animals are food type-specialized omnivores of opportunity.

Rabbits eating meat? Proof?

Also dogs and wokfs still require meat to survive (not to mention dogs are a subspecies of wolf)

And where is the evidence of few obligate carnivores or herbivores.

And cats still are dependant on meat to survive.

Carnivore
A carnivore, or meat-eater (Latin, caro, genitive carnis, meaning meat or "flesh" and vorare meaning "to devour"), is an animal whose food and energy requirements derive **solely** from animal tissues (mainly muscle, fat and other soft tissues) whether through hunting or scavenging.

Know anyone who has a pet rabbit? Offer it some meat and pray for your fingers. If you wish to see rabbits hunting birds, youtube --likewise, if you wish to see cats voluntarily eating fruits and vegetables. Obligate carnivores/herbivores will not eat things which aren't part of their obligation.

Cats are still primary carnivores. Vegan diets are harmfull for them. Besides i have seen people eating toxic materials. And animals can sometimes get confused.

Yes, primarily...but not solely. As far as a vegan diet goes in terms of being harmful to cats, if the protein content is of a digestible type, no harm, no foul.

People en masse tend to generally be on the stupid side so pica is to be expected from at least some portion of the population.

True, animals can become confused but they don't typically eat things their noses tell them not to eat. Word of advice: if you're grilling burgers around loose horses, don't leave them unattended.

"It the protein content is of a digestible type, no harm, no foul."

Cats require Taurine, which is found on meat. Also cats cannot digest plant material.

Taurine: found in beans..although not at gram-for-gram comparable levels. Of course cats can digest plant material; they're not especially well-adapted to the job but they can do it.

And where is the evidence of beans having taurine. Thus you admitted cats are not good at digestibg plants. They evolved to and require consuming meat.

"Thing is, cats stomachs cannot digest plant material very well."

That cats cannot digest plant material as easily as meat has already been established.

"They need meat... and its not just Taurine, meat provides multiple nutrients cats cannot get very well from plants"

Yes, in the absence of a man-made, specifically formulated diet which eliminates the need for meat; the feline gut biome recognizes no difference between nutrients sources from natural and man-made sources.

"And its not just Taurine, meat provides multiple nutrients cats cannot get very well from plants."

See: "specifically formulated man-made diet."

"And their stomachs are not adapted for digesting plants."

That statement is mechanically true; digestion takes place in the intestine, the stomach is functionally an additives mixing tank.

"Face it, cats cannot be vegan."

That statement is unsupported opinion; see: "specifically formulated man-made diet."

And if you try to feed your cat a vegan diet you can expect yourself getting arrested for animal abuse after you forced your diet on your pets.

Sorry, but no -vegan cat feed is widely available and 100% legal; that statement is both false and blatantly hyperbolic. See: "specifically formulated man-made diet."

"Also hypocrisy: First you say " I know better than to agree that cats can't be vegan" but then you say "cats can be vegan." Either one or the other mate."

Sorry, but no, it's not hypocrisy; both of those statements are in concord. Given this most recent failure of comprehension and considering you read the unambiguous statement "while they do subsist primarily on caught prey, cats aren't strictly carnivorous" and interpreted it as a claim that cats in the wild aren't obligate carnivores (vernacularly known as "seeing things that aren't there"), I've no choice but to agree with Reaper_The_God_Of_Games' assessment.

"If you agree that cats cannot be vegan then what was the point of this argument? I amde this meme so people called out those vegans who where trying to force their diets into their pets."

That's the thing, I know better than to agree that cats can't be vegan; it would be true to say that cats can't be vegan in the wild --then again, we're not talking about cats in the wild. We're talking about domestic cats being fed a man-made, specifically formulated diet which eliminates the need for meat as a source of taurine. As such, cats can be vegan.

" man-made, specifically formulated diet which eliminates the need for meat as a source of taurine"

Thing is, cats stomachs cannot digest plant material very well. They need meat.

Also hypocrisy: First you say " I know better than to agree that cats can't be vegan" but then you say "cats can be vegan." Either one or the other mate.

And its not just Taurine, meat provides multiple nutrients cats cannot get very well from plants. And their stomachs are not adapted for digesting plants. Face it, cats cannot be vegan. And if you try to feed your cat a vegan diet you can expect yourself getting arrested for animal abuse after you forced your diet on your pets.

"That article is not trustworthy. And you still admitted that cats are not suited to be vegan. And thing is, cats are still carnivorous who require meat."

What article isn't trustworthy?

At no point did I contend that cats are naturally suited to be vegan, thus, claims of "admission" re: the aforementioned are null, void and pointless for any purpose other than attempting to falsely place oneself on some piece of high ground; I stated that cats aren't strictly carnivores.

That said, I was mistaken in my arguments concerning the obligate carnivorous nature of cats. If your desire is possession of an actual admission to wave about and crow over, there it stands. Although, I should go one better and state unequivocally that cats are, in fact, obligate carnivores.

That said, again it doesn't change the fact that cats, although carnivorous, aren't strictly carnivores --i.e. the original point of contention.

If you agree that cats cannot be vegan then what was the point of this argument? I amde this meme so people called out those vegans who where trying to force their diets into their pets.

Taurine in beans: https://agris.fao.org/agris-search/search.do?recordID=US9022779

"Thus you admitted cats are not good at digestibg plants."

Yes, that's what it means when someone says "Of course cats can digest plant material; they're not especially well-adapted to the job but they can do it."

As such, not being well-adapted to do a thing is not the same as being incapable of doing a thing.

"They evolved to and require consuming meat."

Yes, in the absence of a nutritionally suitable substitute.

That article is not trustworthy. And you still admitted that cats are not suited to be vegan. And thing is, cats are still carnivorous who require meat.