2 second world corrupt oligarchies want to duke it out, let them

Agreed. And if Europe wants to stop it, that's their problem. US shouldn't be involved.

Exactly, especially when there’s an actual first world democracy, Taiwan, that is under threat from our actual enemy, China. Factor in that Taiwan makes so many of our computer chips and that if China took that, we would basically be crippled and the choice is clear which one we should be willing to go to war over if we absolutely have to go to war over one.

True true. It'd be tactical suicide to start a war with Russia at this point, it'd give China the chance to invade while the US is fighting in Eastern Europe.

This is the kinda war the US & Canada should steer clear of. Because it's a cynical, profit driven war we have no chance of winning.
The EU doesn't have a domestic source of cheap natural gas. The Ukrainian does. Europe, Russia and the US all would be very happy to control that source.
So do we wanna spend billions of dollars and thousands of lives just to protect natural gas prices in Europe, when we have plenty of domestic natural gas we could sell em if we care so much?
We should sit this one out.

Hunter Biden needs another $83,000 a month job to fuel his crack addiction, so we gotta send our boys over to die fighting the Russians!

Yes.

I don't really know why Canada is getting involved in this conflict. and yes I don't care if Canada sends aid to Ukraine but sending soldiers to defend a country that might be doomed already is stupid.

By the way, our military is weak compared to Russia we only have 42,000 /23,000 active personnel, Canada is not a major military power and has only small and lightly-funded armed forces. Canada's military rose in size and professionalism after the two world wars. but the Russian Armed Forces are one of the world's biggest military powers, with around a million active-duty personnel, which is the world's fifth-largest, and at least 2 million reserve personnel. So Canada wouldn't do anything against Russia. our dumb prime minister hasn't seen the bigger picture yet if we get involved in this "war" Russia would stop exporting gasoline which will higher the cost of gas in everyone gas station in Canada.

I see no reason as well for Canada to get involved in Ukraine either, except maybe to distract from Trudeau’s utter failure to squash the Freedom Convoy. I think it makes more practical sense at least from a North American perspective to just stay out of the conflict other than selling them some weapons as long as we can spare them. If Europe is so concerned about it, let them handle it, they got twice the population the US does so they have a lot more manpower to deal with the situation and they can deal with it how they see fit.

Yeah, you're right, we should only send aid and military weapons and just stay out of it.

You can’t really compare Ukraine and Russia — the former underwent a revolution in 2014 that ousted a Russian puppet and set it on a pro-democracy, pro-Europe path. Putin’s been losing his mind about Ukraine ever since.

Ukrainian corruption (to the extent it is any worse than corruption elsewhere Eastern Europe) stems from Russia’s own corruption, and its ongoing political pressure campaign inside Ukraine, pretty much.

The U.S. has no authorization to use force in Ukraine, as it’s not a NATO ally, but that’s no reason we shouldn’t care about what may potentially be the largest European conflict since WWII. Throwing up our hands would send the totally wrong signal to our allies. Aggressively calling out Russian aggression is the right move, it’s exactly why we have intelligence assets there. Arming Ukraine, sanctioning Russia to the max? Also good moves, and sends the appropriate signals to China re: Taiwan.

Taiwan, South Korea, etc. had their own growing pains when they were getting established as democracies — several decades of dictatorship, in fact. Democracies don’t emerge perfect and fully formed.

I respectfully disagree. We do not need a war with Russia right now, especially when we are most likely going to get caught up in a war on China over Taiwan in the near future. And for what, Ukraine? The only use we would even have for Ukraine is a strategic position to attack the Russian heartland. And why the obsession over Russia? Other than their nuclear arsenal, they’re not a threat to us, and they’re probably going to collapse once Putin kicks the bucket anyway. Yet boomers and leftists insist on using Russia as a boogeyman due to Cold War memories or Hillary Clinton making shit up that Trump was working for the Russians and that Russia stole the election from her. Russia is certainly not a free place and I don’t trust Putin at all, but I’m not going to side with a corrupt oligarchy (which yes they still are, despite having TWO revolutions against a pro Russian government since 2000) just to spite a former foe. At least with Taiwan, they’re a bona fide democracy and First World nation, plus we have a vested interest there because of it’s strategic position in keeping China landlocked, and Taiwan is where a lot of our computer chips are made. If China were to take Taiwan, not only are they able to expand their naval power more easily out into the Pacific, but they take control over a major part of our technology center, effectively crippling us until we are able to set up shop somewhere else. What does Ukraine offer? Wheat and Chernobyl. Yeah, I see no reason to get involved in Ukraine.

Big wars start out small, though. Like WW1 and 2.

Only when more countries get involved or if the country is bent on dominating the continent or world.

But we shouldn’t have to escalate to that over some place we don’t really have any vested interest in.

I do

Unless of course, the residents of south chicago are involved.

i'm more worried about chinese making artificial sun 💀