This was an anonymous question posed to me: I'd like to talk about it.

Fun fact: Homophobia is only present in the old testament. Modern versions of the bible allow homosexuality.

Modern versions? You mean translations that use "progressive" language. Try reading a Douay-Rheims translation. Hard core Bible right there.

And there's lots of references to that in the new Testament at least in Bibles where books that hurt feels weren't removed

Ok

Can we define homophobic first? Correct me if I'm wrong but a phobia is an inordinate fear of something. Like arachnophobia is the fear of spiders so much that it cripples you to even think about them. So homophobia would be an inordinate fear of homosexual people? So much that thinking about them cripples us?

From Harvard Medical School:
A phobia is a persistent, excessive, unrealistic fear of an object, person, animal, activity or situation. It is a type of anxiety disorder. A person with a phobia either tries to avoid the thing that triggers the fear, or endures it with great anxiety and distress. 

No, we don't have that.

Good question. And no it doesn't offend me. If you mean why don't we accept gays. Lesbians, transgender people we do. I love them as individuals just like anyone in fact they're in my own family. Now if you're asking me to condone, praise and applaud their personal decisions to act out sexually, then that's something else. I believe that is a decision best left between them and their partners and not forced on those who disagree with that lifestyle.

The Catholic Church follows a biblical (specifically New Testament) understanding of human sexuality believing that it is supposed to be between one man and one woman in a marriage. History just shows that this is the most practical, and healthy way to run society. We don't believe it's supportive to truly living out what it means to be human but stems from a distorted idea of love, marriage, relationships. I think it attempts to fill a void and doesn't lead to true fulfillment.

I have another post explaining why we believe this. Let me try to link it. Thanks for posting and feel free to tell me your thoughts. Even if you disagree which I have a feeling you do. I would love to discuss this further

65or1b.jpg (click to show)
"Homophobic" is a loaded word. By redefining the what "phobic" means, from a pathological and irrational fear of something into a word that means anything from a mild distaste for, to an extreme aversion or hatred, and everything in between is a form of psychological manipulation and a tactic exploited by narcissists to control others. It's a word that is used to diffuse any and all criticism which may be legitimate and paints the user of the word as a victim of undeserved ill-will (where none may in fact exist) and serves to silence anyone who are not in agreement. And as words shape and define thoughts the shifting definition of "-phobic" to the current politicized meaning creates 'groupthink' where anti gay bias is discouraged and suppressed.

Basically.

IDK about others, but I am homophobic and a Catholic. I do not stand with LGBT, it's just...odd to me. I do not hate the people, I just hate the community. I hope people do not get that mixed up. God gave us a gender, we should not change that, he has a plan for all of us. God made man and woman to be together, not man and man or woman and woman. That is what I believe, but others may think differently and I respect that. God gave us free will to choose what we believe in, as atheists, LGTB, and others do. I do not. I follow the Bible.

Hate the community that's full of people? Maybe you mean you don't approve of the lifestyle. Hate of anything is a pretty strong word. That attitude doesn't represent Catholicism.

"I'm Catholic, sure, but I'm not perfect.
Just because you believe in Halos doesn't mean you have one
You can tease me 'bout my respect, but I gotta say it just ain't worth it
If you care so much about respect maybe you take a look at what you've done
Just because we believe in God don't mean we are as good as him."

--L.M.L. (Learned My Lesson) by me. Listen, I know a lot of Catholics who've screwed up. But God MADE us to make mistakes and learn from them. I don't understand why many people who follow God get stereotyped as "perfect" and "holy". None of us ever said we were better than you, we simply follow God. But people make mistakes. If you want me to respect this, then maybe you should respect that people make mistakes.

But what if God's plan for us is being trans, or not having a gender?

Thats for Him to decide

I'd say that's the devil is trying deceive and convince people of their gender/sexuality confusion to lead us away from God.

Satan hates human beings because God has a special love for us and has made us in His image. Satan works to destroy God's creation, leading human souls into death, torment and misery, eternal damnation/eternal separation from God.

Satan is a deceiver, trying to convince humans that he and Hell don't exist and to not believe in Christianity. For those who believe that Satan and Hell exist, he will try to confuse people about the teaching of Christ's word.

God's plan for humanity couldn't include trans or genderless because, if that were true, then He would've created 3 options, all with different anatomy - male, female, and genderless. If God wanted a male to be female or vice versa, then He would've created that person according to his plan, in the correct body, in the first place. Not to mention the confusion being pushed upon the younger generation that girls can have male's anatomy and vice versa, meaning trans without the full surgery. It is all a strategic assault being waged upon the minds and souls of younger people today to confuse them.

Exactly.

Yeah, I think that's a bunch of bs... but that's me you are free to think what you believe

So you came into a Catholic stream to troll it and call it bs.

A stream like femboys4life on this site is the perfect example of the kind of confusion purposely being put into the minds of children/teenagers that I was talking about. It makes sense that a member of that stream would disagree with what I said.

Maybe you'll understand this one day. Have a nice evening.

id say no
im a muslim, but its the same scenario
lgbtq is forbidden in both religions
often, ill find the muslims i know not really supporting it, but not trying to be homophobic(hate crime = bad)

Interesting, so do you hear the claim that Muslims are homophobic because they don't fully embrace an lgbtq lifestyle?

no
i also see many muslims i know with spartan_ravenclaw's opinion

I wonder why Muslims aren't labeled homophobes as much as Christians.

i guess the population isnt as much in the US

also we are labelled more as terrorists....

I think this guy says it much better than I ever could.
Take a listen and let me know what you think!

https://youtu.be/bLrRfwpvERU

I have some catholic friends, And they're cool with it, So, No, Depends on the person

In my experience, almost all Catholics I have met have been homophobic, but that's not to insult every catholic.

Do you have specific examples of how these Catholics you met were crippled by fear of the LGBTQ crowd?

not crippling fear, but definite hate. a catholic church forced my friend and her girlfriend out of a relationship

Well, forcing anyone to do anything isn't right. Perhaps they told her that she can't claim to be Catholic and live in a way that doesn't agree with the faith. Sort of like politicians who say they're catholic but enact policies against the church like abortion. You have to choose a side. Though there are gays and lesbian Catholics who choose to follow what the church teaches. They aren't forced to stay or leave.

I agree. The church has no right to force them out of a loving relationship, but she can't leave, she's still young, not a legal adult, and can't do anything. shes stuck. And my friend (her girlfriend) is absolutely devastated that she cant see her girlfriend. it makes me sad that people do this to teenagers, and think its ok