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Chaz and Chop was clearly a false flag committed by Trump supporters.

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"clearly".
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A few FBI agents..... Everyone except Democrats.
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The definition of insurrection has been changed by the Democrats. It used to mean a violent uprising to overthrow the government and replace it with a new one.

And even though Antifa and the other useful idiots who joined then actually want to overthrow our government and replace it with communism, and they've used violent means to that end, the word insurrection no longer applies to them.

Insurrection no means any form of redress of grievances made by anyone on the right for anything. It also means to keep Trump from running for reelection by ANY means necessary.
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Opps. Insurrection *now* means...
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Several pretty prominent Republicans seem to agree.
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That means nothing to me. It just means there are sell outs in the Republican party. I've known that for a long time and that's why I'm no longer a Republican.
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I'm just pointing it out because you seem to be trying to paint it as (only) the Democrats who are referring to Jan 6th as an (attempted) insurrection. Call them sellouts if you want to but I'm pretty sure most if not all of the people I'm thinking of are lifelong Republicans.
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I call them sell outs only because what happened on Jan 6th does not fit the definition of an insurrection. It doesn't even come close.

By a huge majority the Democrats are the ones perpetuating this myth.

I guess it should mean something to me. I hate it when people change the definitions of words when it is politically expedient.

The sole purpose of calling Jan 6th an insurrection is because of the 14th amendment section 3

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

If the Dems can pin an insurrection on Trump then they can prevent him from ever being able to run for anything. They are scared to death of Trump. They know how popular he is because they had to work overtime to create enough fraudulent votes for Biden and take enough valid votes away from Trump without it looking too obvious. Unfortunately they failed. They were very sloppy. Everyone saw the election was rigged and the Democrats and those same sell out Republicans denied what we all saw.

Trump won in a major landslide over the senile dufus you call president.

Once again. An insurrection is when a group of people engage in a violent and armed overthrow of an existing government. That just did not happen. None of the rioters or protestors were armed. They didn't commit any violence against people. They did damage the building but the only ones who were harmed were the rioters. One was shot in cold blood and the other was trampled to death.
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Well in any case, there are people on both sides who agree it was an insurrection. One would expect far less Republicans than Dems to agree about it being an insurrection because wayyy more repubs are Trump supporters who feel the same way you do. Basically if the election was illegally stolen by Joe Biden, then the Jan 6th attempt to stop it would not be an attempted insurrection, it would be an attempt at justice.

"None of the rioters or protestors were armed. They didn't commit any violence against people. They did damage the building but the only ones who were harmed were the rioters."

False and false again.
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Exactly. It was an attempt at justice. Even if the election was accurate, it was still an attempt at justice because the protesters showed up specifically to protest a great injustice to our democratic process. They never showed up to take over the government.

They didn't even show up to riot. That riot was aggetated by an FBI operative named Ray Epps who tried twice that I know of to get the people to storm the Capitol building. The first time they chanted him down saying, "Fed, Fed, Fed..." The second time he got the response he was sent there to create.

I am not false. The did find a couple of guns in 2 different protesters cars (notice I said protester and not rioter). But they were in their cars. None of the rioters had weapons on their persons. Rioter Ashli Babbit was shot and killed by one of the Capitol police for apparently no other reason than she was there. Rosanne Boyland was trampled on by the crowd and then beaten to death on the steps of the Capitol building by a Capitol police officer.

Those are the facts.
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How exactly does that work??? I mean from your perspective....how could there have been a "great injustice to the democratic process" if the election was accurate?

What they wanted is to overturn the election aka make their guy become president. "Stop the steal" clearly refers to the "stolen" election....... And if you stop someone from stealing, where do the stolen goods (the election) go? Answer: back to their rightful owner (the donald). If that's not what they went there to do, perhaps they should've picked a different day and came up with a different name.

No, no... you are clearly false. "None of the rioters or protestors were armed."

Lonnie Coffman was arrested there with 2 loaded handguns on their person. He also brought 11 molotov cocktails less than 1 mile of the capitol. He plead guilty. moving on....Guy Reffitt was also arrested there with a firearm on his person. Many other types of arms were brought there such as knives, axes, batons, a baseball bat, stun guns, etc.... 82 people there face weapons related charges. And those are only the ones who got arrested. The people who broke in didn't exactly go through metal detectors so we only know about the ones who got arrested.

You are clearly false again. "They didn't commit any violence against people. They did damage the building but the only ones who were harmed were the rioters."

Numerous Police suffered numerous injuries. According to the police union, 140 police officers were injured. Jeffery Sabol admitted to dragging a cop near someone else who began beating him with a flagpole. I mean dude admitted it and there is video online of it happening. Officer Mike Fanone penned a letter in May about his ongoing trauma after he was pulled into a crowd, beaten and repeatedly tased on January 6. Prosecutors have said that as a result of being attacked in the crowd, Fanone lost consciousness and was subsequently hospitalized..... Interesting how quickly "Back the Blue" /"Blue Lives Matter" gets thrown out the window.
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The protesters were right in what they were protesting. The 2020 election was so very clearly bought and paid for by foreign entities. However, if the election was actually a valid election that created the perception of impropriety, then if any one protested the election under that perception, they were only doing so out of a sense of justice.

The outcome of the 2020 election did not inspire conservatives to overthrow the government. It only inspired them to protest the results. We simply have a fraud in the White House and it is clearly evident by his performance as president. He is clearly not for the American people. If he was then he would not have left 35,000 stranded in Afghanistan. He would not have made us dependent on foreign oil again. He would not have told the Federal Reserve to turn the printing presses to eleven, cranking out more dollars in an attempt to devalue our currency to zero. That is the reason we are seeing inflation at rates we haven't seen since Carter and it is only going to get worse.

Biden's approval rating is the lowest of any president right now and is it any wonder why? The man is bought and paid for by China and Ukraine.

I care much less about putting Trump back in the White House than I do about having my vote stolen from me. I want my vote to count but it doesn't. That means I have no power whatsoever to vote for whom I think would best represent my views. I am voiceless in an oppressive regime. This is no longer the United States of America. And THAT is my problem. And it should be the problem of every citizen of this nation who values the Constitution and freedom but it is not.

I read the charges brought against the rioters. None one of them was a weapons charge. I'm not sure where your information came from. And to be honest I am surprised there weren't people carrying weapons. Most conservatives know that DC is pretty much a weapon free area (despite the Heller ruling). If you want to keep your firearm then do not bring it to DC at anytime. I guess not all of them got the message.

Regardless a couple of handguns, knives and other less lethal weapons might have been all you needed in the stone ages for an insurrection but if you want to take of the US then you need superior fire power. Not sticks and stones. If that was an insurrection that was the sorriest insurrection that has ever happened in the history of mankind.

That is why it was NOT an insurrection.
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Nope. The election was by and large totally fair. Trump may not have died from Covid but it essentially buried him in the election. Many thought Biden would fix it but states still have rights and people don't want to follow mandates anyway. So covid is still clearly coming in massive waves...but at the very least, the death ratio has tanked due to vaccination.

If you are trying to install a president despite him losing, that is basically overthrowing the govt. It was a total farce anyway but they kind of had ran out of other options.

I am an American and Biden is for me. I voted for him. I'm glad he ended the war in Afghanistan...any Afghani-Americans who hadn't already left Afghanistan either didn't plan to leave or wasn't paying attention.

We're a global economy, I don't mind buying Saudi oil if it's cheaper than we can produce it for.

Pretty sure your statements about the FED is more or less bullsh*t. The president does not control them, he picks the chairman and Jerome Powell the guy currently in charge is Trump's guy anyway. Inflation is mainly due to supply chain issues and those Canadian trucker protests Republicans are praising won't help that situation.

Interesting that Biden was allegedly bought and paid for by China and yet Trump's trade tariffs with China remain in place. Seems to me an alleged Chinese plant would've immediately removed them.

So......your vote stolen from you?
I bet it wasn't.

Multiple sources confirm there were weapons there. Not only were there weapons there but the Oath Keepers had literal cartloads of guns and ammunition ready to be delivered but ultimately they weren't since they were able to breach the capitol without them. -Wall Street Journal..

You're surprised "people weren't carrying weapons". I'm surprised that you don't know that some of them were.

I agree. It was the sorriest insurrection in history. They were complete morons to do that. Although I think many basically got a slap on the wrist so maybe it was worth it for them.
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