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There is a difference between central planners and intellectuals.

We don't need no central planners. We don't need no thought control.

You're not an intellectual either.

LMAO

True. You are the real intellectual here. Hey, remember when you made this ridiculous political compass? Lmao

This idea of anarcho-communism is a myth if you are going to pledge allegiance to Karl Marx. Marxism is the polar opposite of anarchy.

Without Marx then what is the point of anarchy? Why would you (the generic you, not you specifically) tear down a government that gave you all of the freedom to form your commune. If you don't like this government move. Find a country that will best suit your needs.

Peter Kropotkin’s Mutual Aid describes the history of governments overthrowing self-sustaining people practicing collectivism and mutual aid for the development of capitalism. Seriously, the state is the reason people were forced out of their homes and into capitalist factories.

Anarchists and Marxists have a long historic rivalry, since the days of the First International. They are not the same. Marxists want a transition state, anarchists do not. Both are still on the left, though. The political spectrum varies left to right per economics, not size of government.

It is the Marxists who have ruined the freedom for you to have a commune. The free market didn't do that. The only thing that a free market would do is try to trade with you and if you didn't want to establish any type of trade then you would be left alone.

That is what the free market is about, freedom. I just don't know what is so hard for you to understand about that. All you would need to do is just read a few books by those who promote it. If you read Marx or books written by Marxists then what you are being told about the free market is either a lie or NOT the free market. Free market economic is very simple to understand. Actually that is one of the reason why intellectual Marxists don't like it. They think things like economic has to be complicated. No it does not. Some things are complicated but this is not one of them. The free market is just about free and unfettered trade of goods and or services. It can either be trade of the actual product or trade based on some type of currency. As long as a 3rd party that has no part of the transaction does not step in to alter anything about that transaction then it is a free market.

The free market is NOT when businesses collude with the government, and it always, always, always benefits the consumer. It can benefit the business owner but not always. All of us are consumers, even labor. Labor is benefited by being able to purchase the best products at the most reasonable price.

Business owners and CEO's do NOT control the economy, the consumer does.

I am not being naive or ignorant. I am not ignoring the fact that business owners can be corrupt. I am not ignoring that labor can be corrupt also.

You sound wildly brainwashed and it’s obvious that you can’t think outside of what has been programmed into you.

I have read classical economists in the past, specifically Hazlitt. I later realized it was bullshit. You clearly don’t know any history about the development of capitalism and refuse to believe it is anything other than when people exchanged things. Pathetic.

Capitalism began with the enclosures in England. People were forced off their common land. Capitalists built factories. People were forced to work in the factories on unsafe machines, under bad conditions. If they were poor and unemployed, the Poor acts sent them to the workhouse. It was a crime to be poor. Unions were illegal. People were killed for destroying machines in protest. This is the legacy of capitalism.

Kropotkin’s work is recognized by academia as a devastating debunking of social Darwinism. Mutual Aid is a detailed work on the history of human civilization.

Nope. Not brainwashed. I just pay attention to how the world works. Most if what I know is fact came by personal observation. In addition I've read a few books and they confirmed what I already figured out.

Besides who would brainwash me to believe in freedom? That makes no sense.

So, then just how does a free market person "force a person off their land" or "force a person to work"?

England was never based on a free market. England was based on corporatism or what used to be called mercantilism.

I never said I was an intellectual. I don't fancy myself as being anything other than average. I know far too many people who are much smarter than I am.

I admit that was a poor graphic but all I use is Microsoft Paint. The message of that graphic is absolutely true. All of the variations of Socialism are authoritarian. Communism as defined by Marx is authoritarian but communism existed before Marx and it could have been authoritarian. It is usually and voluntary collective that shares all things in common. Most of them eventually fall apart but some communes have been very successful. I am pretty sure that I have told me, probably several times, before but I don't have any problems with people who want to live in a commune. Just do not force me to join the commune.

The people I don't want in this country are those who want to take my freedom away. If you are so bound and determine to live in an authoritarian regime then you can move to a country that will better suit your needs. Just do not stay here and vote a totalitarian regime into this country. That is NOT who we are. We never were.

I don't need or want a government that tries to control my life or do things for me. All I want them to do is "...establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity". And I want the government to go by the original meaning of those ideals, not some modern tweaking of those meanings. For example, "general welfare" does NOT mean steal money from those who work to give to those who do not work. Private sector solutions to helping the unemployed always more better and more efficiently than from some faceless agency hundreds or thousands of miles away.

Your meme isn’t bullshit? So I’m on the right with all you conservatives because I’m an anarchist? That must be why we get along all the time.

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If leftists are watching the TV, they're watching the right wing cable news as watchdogs. The leftists I talk to think the newspapers and TV are biased in favor of capital. It's even part of Marxian theory, look up cultural hegemony.

I understand what you are saying because there is an element that causes the news to over sensationalize things because it sells more news. However, at the same time they clearly favor the left. They perpetuates the myth that everyone who is not a Democrat is a fascist white supremacist. That is not just absurd but it is flat out wrong. In fact the very reason why they perpetuate that myth is to sell more news to Democrats and promote Democrat candidates.

Excuse for being obviously confused about the political spectrum.

Are you being serious? If you are then perhaps you should change your name to TriggeringMarxists or something like that.

Do you not understand that I agree way more with Marxists than I do conservatives?

That's what I thought.

There's barely any leftists on this site. There are no Marxists to trigger.

They're probably not radical enough for you. Most of the left just blindly follow the TV or what some talking head tells them. And when you tell them they are influenced by Marxism they think you are just calling them a derrogatory name. They have no clue they are promoting and idea created by Marx.

*communists

Two words that can't be used together

Ah, Jeopardy. Where you answer questions with questions.

liberal/commie potato/potato

They're different pictures. You just don't see it that way.

Yup... you're in a cult...

Do you think bosses and workers have identical interests?