Donald trump approves

And that's how Trump won the 2020 election......uh wait..... I guess it just didn't happen. Even your own meme implies that they only "tried" but didn't actually "do" the fraud.

What is so amazing about Joe Biden that you think he just wowed the American people so much that he got more votes than any president in history? And then a year later have the lowest approval rating of any president in history. Was it his lack of grasp on reality? Was it his racism? Was it his senility? What was so attractive about this human puppet?

The only reason he got more votes is because he wasn’t trump. What makes you think I think Biden is amazing? What makes you think trump is so amazing? Was it his racism? Was it his inability or unwillingness to do his job? Was it his love for Putin? Was it his ability to have a lower approval rating after one year than Biden has? Was it his taking money from our military to pay for a few miles of a wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for? Was it the way he sent a bunch of traitors to attack the capitol?

I don't think Trump was amazing. I think Trump is a gazillion time better than any Democrat but he wasn't all that conservative. He spent money as fast as Obama and Obama was the worst ever. No president prior to Obama ever came close to Obama's spending. In fact no leader of any nation in the history of mankind has spent so much. And Trump was just as bad.

IF Trump was a racist it wasn't very good at it. He made one comment about illegal aliens and everything else after that was conjecture from the Democrats.

The news media was constantly campaigning against Trump the entire 4 years of his president. That same news media refuses to ever say anything bad about Biden. So when you talk about approval ratings you would think that Trumps would have been the lowest ever but they weren't. Biden is at 33% and falling.

The Trump/Russia collusion scandal was proven to be a fraud. It was fabricated to use against Trump during the campaign of the 2016 election. When Trump won they just would not let it go even though all of the players behind absolutely knew it was a fraud.

However, Biden's deal with Putin to let him have Ukraine IS real. That is actually happening right now.

Trump's wall was a bad idea to begin with. There are much more effective ways of stopping illegal immigration. Stiff fines on any employer who hires illegals would have prevented a lot of that. But even that was destined to fail because as soon as the Democrats gained control they would do exactly what they are doing right now. Opening that border wide open. And there is absolute no concern whatsoever about if those millions of illegals are vaccinated or not. They don't even have to wear a mask.

And the reason for all of that is because Democrats need voters and they don't care if they cannot legally vote in this country. If the Hispanics coming from our southern border ever decided that the Republican party was who they would rather vote for Trump's wall would be built overnight by the Democrats.

Holy crap, what a response! Trump was the worst president in our history. But I’m not a fan of any of them . I just focus on the worst

Oh my goodness. He wasn't a great president but there were a whole lot worse that Trump. Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Barack Obama and Joe Biden were/are all far far worse than Trump. Especially Wilson, Roosevelt and Obama. Those three are the absolute worst of the worst. Biden is working very hard at becoming as bad or worse than all of them. Especially when he used World Economic Forum's slogan for the Great Reset as his campaign slogan. Build Back Better is the slogan for a 21st century international fascist government. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a conspiracy fact and you can actually read about their plans on their own website.

Obama inherited a recession and after 8 years trump inherited a great economy. He wrecked it in less than two years. Trump was the first president in our history to leave office with less jobs created than when he took office. Those are facts. And now we are learning every day how far trump was willing to go to screw the country after the 2020 election. Again, I don’t like any of them but I fought for this country and now my son fights for this country. And we fought for free and fair elections because that is what makes America great.

A recession started in the last 2 years of Bush's term. Bush bungled it but he didn't have a whole lot of choice because the Senate had just switched to a Democrat majority. So with the Dems in control nothing was going to get done to fix that economy.

If you think that 8 years of Obama was anything less than an economic disaster then you clearly do not understand economics. Over 50% of the country was living on some type of government assistance under Obama. That is not a success, that is a colossal failure. Obama had the Feds printing money at about 75 million per money. Do you have any idea what that does to the value of currency? Under Obama we had our international credit rating dropped for the first time in the history of this nation, not once but 3 times. The Debt to GDP ratio went up over 100% for his entire term. It is still over 100%. It never went down even after 4 years of Trump. That means that we as a nation are not producing enough tax dollars to satisfy the payments on our debt. We are going out backwards.

When Trump was elected the economy immediately went into recovery. Trump had nothing to do with it other than the fact that he was not Hillary. That recovery would not have happened under Hillary. She wouldn't let it happen. Biden, or rather those pulling his puppet strings, are working hard on collapsing our economy right now. That is why we are heading into hyper-inflation.

You may not understand the economy. It takes about two years into a new administration for the previous president’s policies to end. Trump rode Obama’s economy for awhile and then he trashed it.

No. That is not true. Herbert Hoover started the Great Depression and lost reelection because of it. Franklin Roosevelt never ended that depression. They kept it going all the time he was alive (he died in office). WWII only lessened the severity by giving an artificial boost to the economy with the war effort and by killing off many men in Europe and the South Pacific who were previously unemployed.

Once Reagan realized the depth of Carter's recession he ended it in 18 months.

Obama did not end Bush's recession. The only thing that happened was the news media stopped reporting on the recession.

Well my business showed me otherwise

It's not even a difference of opinion.
If you notice, he starts off with a smidgen of truth, yet even at that he's reducing it to just one person or party, and from there he veers into a refabriction of the truth into the fanfic that is so contrary to reality, you wonder if he's trolling, or perhaps steered by a psychological condition where fantasy seems real to him.
But that it suits a particular narrative and with astoundingly too-perfect consistency makes the latter doubtful, as he's too much aware of the steps he needs to make his bogus partisan hack nonsense a 'reality' to be suffering from such a condition.

He can't be just a troll doing this for the funziez, as he's given up with the likes of SSTUUTTAA or myself, which is why he won't reply to me, because rather than to retort according to his fanfic parameters, I just post facts (like those charts) rather than arguments. One thing a liar will never succeed at is countering the truth.

So he's a shill, or fancies himself one, making up tales as if they would pay off for 'the cause' in the long run. Yet even his 'fellow' Alt Righties don't pay him much mind, even calling him a troll. It's kinda sad, really. Almost.

When you hear about the economy it is the average across the entire nation. There will always be companies that do great in a bad economy. Some companies naturally thrive in bad economies. I used to work for a company who made bankruptcy software. When the economy went down their profits went up.

I have never ran a business but when Obama was president I earned more money than when Bush was president. My income had nothing to do with who was president.

But when just over half of the country was living on some kind of government assistance that is bad. That is not a good economy. That means that a whole lot of people were unemployed or underemployed. More than should be.

That almost changed overnight when Trump won in 2016 and it was just because Hillary lost. Trump had even had a chance to do anything. It was not a result of Obama's policies because Obama was a Marxist. He does not understand what makes a good economy. What happened was businesses were no longer in a holding position trying to wait out the storm that was Obama. They began investing in their businesses again and that created jobs. The more jobs the better the overall economy.

Trump cut taxes but not by much and not nearly enough. Although he did cut business taxes and that was awesome. We had the highest business tax rate in the world, something no country that calls itself free should ever have.

I love this country also. I am not a veteran, I never served in any branch of the military. But I do fully support the US Constitution and our founding fathers. I believe they gave us the freest nation to have ever existed (with the exception of slavery and slavery is not unique to our country) but that freedom has been lost. We are less free now than we were under King George and all we are getting from the Democrats and most of the Republicans is more laws and less freedom.

I am not a Republican or a Democrat. I used to be a Republican but I left them 10 years ago. I don't think either party has our best interest in mind. I did not vote for Trump in 2016 but I did in 2020. I voted for the Constitution Party candidate, Darrell Castle, in 2016.

Do you ever do anything but lie?

It did?
So 10.8% unemployment and the first trillion dollar breaking budget was PRIOR to 1982?

Who set double digit interest rates that calmed inflation down?

Which goverment 'shrinker' HIRED MORE federal employees to spend our way out of recession exacerbated by his big budget spending?

I didn’t like Hillary or trump. And I sat out, which I’m not proud of. But after trumps four years I felt I should participate again. And after January 6th I am glad I did. They all suck, but his response to losing was the most un-American behavior I’ve seen. He’s entertaining, and makes me laugh, but he’s no good for the country. What changed my mind before the election was when he asked his people if the wounded veterans had to sit up front at the White House Memorial Day service and he said - nobody wants to see that, it’s sad, why are they up front.- That confirmed to me that he had to go. And that happened back in 2017 I believe. Maybe it was 2018, either way.

January 6th happened because of a man named Ray Epps. Epps was either a current or former FBI agent who was sent there to agitate the crowd. On the 5th he was trying to get the crowd to storm the Capitol building and the crowd responded back with a loud, "No!" Then they started calling him a "Fed". The next day he was trying to make it happen again. He had operates (and there is video proof of this) all around the Capitol. On video he is seen whispering into the ear of one of his operatives. A second later that operative started pushing over one of the barricades.

Crowd mentality being somewhere around the IQ of their shoe size just followed those operative right into the Capitol building. This was not an insurrection. There were no plans by those people who entered the Capitol building to riot. Not a single one of them was armed. They went there to protest what they believed was massive voter fraud and a fraudulent president. That was their only reason to be there. Two of those who entered into the Capitol had firearms in their cars. But they were in their cars and not on their person. And a handgun is NOT an effective tool for an insurrection. I don't know if you have been to Washington DC or not but with a crowd that size they could not possibly have parked their cars close enough to where those two people with firearms could have ran to their car when the riot started and come back.

Ray Epps is no where to be found, yet innocent people, who didn't even enter the Capitol building are being held without even being charged of any crime.

Those who rioted the Capitol building and caused damage should be charged and prosecuted but not for insurrection because that is not what happened. They should be charged for whatever laws there are against rioting and at least destruction of public property.

Epps was not a Trump operative. He was working for the Democrats. Trump did not plan or even cause that riot.

I remember enough about that Memorial service at the White House to really speak to it but from what I understand Trump never said that. It was just reported that he did. What I do know is that the military loved Trump. They didn't care for Obama. And Biden is a joke. Why did he pull our troops out of Afghanistan and leave billions of dollars worth of military equipment and even worse around 35,000 US citizens behind to face the Taliban? What kind of a moron does that?

Anyone that made under 70k$ a year paid for trumps tax cuts. And small businesses got crushed even worse. The only folks that benefited from trumps tax plan were millionaires and big businesses. Those are facts man. Biden says anyone making less than 400k$ a year won’t pay another cent in taxes with his plan. He just wants millionaires and big corporations to finally pay their fair share. Now I know what trumps plan did to me and my customers, and I’m waiting to see if Biden stays to his word.

I pretty much agree with you. Trump's tax cuts didn't do much. It wasn't nearly enough. Biden is not honest. He has never been honest. He and his family were grifters when it occurred to Joe that he can "legally" grift if he was a politician. That is exactly why he got into politics.

When he says he is not going to tax anyone who earns less that $400k that is when you know he is lying. He is like Bush Sr, "Read my lips, no new taxes". Fortunately he hasn't raised taxes.....yet. However, what he is doing is much worse. He's started printing currency again, like Obama. They call it quantitative easing and in countries that tried this before it led to hyper-inflation. That is why the cost of everything is skyrocketing right now. So while my tax bill isn't any higher, my everything else bill is.

I have a HUGE problem with that phrase, "fair share". At what point is it ever fair to take by force anyone's earnings. If a mugger does it is considered a crime but if the government does it then some people call it our patriotic duty. For the first 120ish years of this nation there was no income tax, with the exception of a temporary tax after the Civil war. It was never our duty to pay the government a portion of our earnings. Our founding fathers would be turning over in their graves. It was the idiot president, Woodrow Wilson, who forced a permanent income tax and the Federal Reserve on us in 1913.

Look at this way. If slavery is defined by taking 100% of the products of one's labor then at what percentage does it no longer become slavery? Even slaves weren't taxed at 100% because the slave owner housed, clothed and fed their slaves. Is it no longer slavery at 75%, 50%, 33%? Roads and bridges were built prior to 1913. We had police and fire departments before 1913. We had public education before 1913. So why is it that we had all of that stuff before but now if we do not involuntarily give over what we worked for to the government we will no longer have any of that? The income tax was never about funding the government, it was about controlling the people. Woodrow Wilson HATED the constitution. He hated the limits it put on him so he found ways to circumvent it. He was a Marxist. He believed that he and the government knew better how run people's lives.

So what is "fair" about stealing money from people? And since when did it become our obligation to "share" it? And why is it only the government that we have that obligation?

Well trump and Biden worked together to mess up in Afghanistan. Trump cut the deal and then put a timeline on , Biden should’ve immediately altered that deal so we got out in a better way. Instead, he focused on undoing trumps border policies, without an alternative plan.

I believe that is an excuse invented by the media. Biden missed Trump's deadline by several months. Plus Biden has been trying to undo everything Trump did. To claim that he was following Trump's lead on that just doesn't make any sense.

Trump's plan never including given the Taliban billions of dollars of military equipment and leaving 35,000 US citizens behind. In fact, no other president in the history of this country would have ever done anything even close to that. This was the act of a man who is entirely unfit to serve as president of the United States of America.

The Democrats who gave Bush a trillion for TARP ad whatever he wanted for Afghanistan and Iraq?

"Obama had the Feds printing money at about 75 million per money. Do you have any idea what that does to the value of currency?"

No idea, because you made whatever that drivel is up.
Fiat currency, look it up.

btw, the USD STRENGTHENED under Obama, Bush having weakened it ostensibly to stimulate growth but in actuality it was to offset debt for two ongoing wars with no raised taxes to fund - the payment for that and TARP Obama was gifted having to take care of.

For the first time EU countries and China became net sellers of US Treasuries starting in 2017. Do you know why they started selling off their $ holdings?

Thank you for being quick with the charts and facts!!!

No problem.
Those charts are templates here as "under Obama"

And the only thing that matters is that trump was the only president to ever attempt to end our democracy after losing an election. I couldn’t care less about any other policies from any other president. I only care about the one that wanted to undermine our constitution and democracy.

Not true. First off we are not a democracy and never have been. We are a republic. In a democracy we would spending all our time voting on issues. Democracies always fail.

In a republic we vote for representatives to vote for us.

Trump did not do anything to destroy our ability to vote. That was all been done by the Democrats with massive voter fraud. They now control the elections. We only have the illusion of the right to vote. There is no way that someone like Biden could have ever won and especially by more votes that any president ever got.

There were far too many things that happened in this election. Much of it has been happening for a very long time. Democrats have been notorious for getting votes from dead people, cartoon characters and illegal aliens. This is not a joke or a conspiracy theory. It's been happening for decades. Obama introduced the Dominion and Smartmatic voting machines into our country. Ever since then I have been hearing reports of people voting for the Republican candidate only to watch as their vote switched to the Democrat. No one ever looked into it because the Democrats didn't want you to know it was happening and the Republicans are spineless.

It happened again in 2020. But leading up to it many states changed their voting laws and made it much easier for fraud to occur. In Pennsylvania the state supreme court, in direct violation of the US Constitution, changed voting law so that if a ballot was received after the polls had closed and there was no post mark or signature on the envelope it could still be counted. They had thousands of those ballots and they were all for Biden.

All across the country at just after midnight ballot counting just stopped. When it started back up again an hour or more later all of the sudden Trump's lead became Biden's lead and in several precincts it was by the exact same number. Republican observers where being shut out of some polling places. Trucks arrived at other polling places in the early hours of the morning with loads of new ballots. Some poll workers were seen on camera scanning the same set of ballots through several times.

The electronic voting machines were connected to the internet so that the algorithms used to give Biden a lead could be updated if need be. And they were, because Trumps lead over Bide was just to great. In addition those voting machines were set up so that poll workers could edit peoples votes. The could change their votes.

Hey, we talked about BBQ. I’m not going to insult you, but just sit back and listen to what is going on and the documents and recordings that are being released almost every day. Trump was the only one trying to commit fraud, and in the next few months the hearings are going to be in prime time. The entire world will be watching and it’s not looking good for him right now. He will never be charged for anything about January 6th. But the New York cases and the Georgia cases may be much worse. As a business owner, just off what we know, he’s in trouble in New York.

Hopefully you haven't taken anything I have said as an insult. I try not to because I don't know you or anyone else here. I try to always remember that I am actually talking to another human being. I try to talk to people online like I would if I was sitting in the same room with them. If I have offended you in anyway, then I apologize. You have not offended me.

Naw man I’m pretty thick skinned. I’ve been trying to do better myself when on this app . I try to not directly insult folks anymore, I’ve been pretty bad about it in the past. Been banned many times. Kind of a New Years resolution. And if we don’t try to talk to folks that think differently then we aren’t ever going to fix this country. Lord knows the politicians aren’t.

I agree 100%. The politicians are taking us in a direction that none of us want to go and they are doing that by dividing us.

The Jan 6th commission is just a bunch of Democrats rattling their sabers. Noting is going to come out of it because they have no proof that Trump did anything to cause the riots.

I don’t think they will have enough to charge him for January 6th. I think he was part of it but , the people that went in and caused all the chaos were adults. They made the choice to do what they did. Like I was saying, I think he has worse legal problems. But who knows , he has beaten the courts before.

I don’t think trump is going to be charged with a crime for January 6th. Although after weeks of him telling lies about the election certainly did not help. I think he needs to be more worried about the New York and Georgia criminal cases he’s facing. Those appear to be pretty serious and from the evidence that has been made public it looks pretty bad for him. And in Georgia they have the recording so I don’t know how he plans on fighting that one.

Look into what he’s facing in New York and Georgia. It looks pretty bad.

And in New York, they’ve already shown that him and his company were keeping 2 sets of books. As a business owner, if I were to do what he was doing in order to get loans or pay taxes I would be in jail. That’s going to be a tough one for him to fight as well. And because he likes to be hands on with his company, it’s his signature on all the documents. Which is going to make it real difficult to try to say he didn’t know what was going on.

I'll have to pay more attention to the Jan 6th commission. I really haven't paid much attention to it. I don't know what charges are against him. I haven't read anything about what New York or Georgia has against him. Well, if Trump committed a crime then he should pay the consequences of that crime. But there is a whole lot of absolutely rabid Trump hatred on the left. Both impeachment trials were built on made up charges.

We are a federal republic governed by a democratic system of elections. My point is, trump tried to undermine all of it.

That is true. But we were never a democracy. We do vote for our representatives. In state, county and city elections we are also given propositions to vote on but we do not vote on every issue that comes up. We are protected from the tyranny of the majority in a republic. In other words a democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to eat for dinner.

I do not believe Trump did anything to undermine our election process. It was already undermined when Biden was fraudulently installed as president.

"Trump was the worst president in our history."

tbf, I wouldn't exactly put it that way, as he was far from a president and more an aspiring dictator - and a failure at that, no less.
Even his own Brownshirts gave up and went home after a half-assed effort that lasted part of a day - the Civil War II Brownshirts, back to their social media posts and CoD stuffed with Hot Pockets and a 6 of Bud.

“Jews will not replace us!” Yeah, pretty sure those guys weren’t voting for democrats lol

Oh yeah, them too!
I was referring to Jan 6th, but look at all the Fart Reicht militias between both 2017 and 2020, and goodness, how many ways did this failure of a clown try to hijack America?

We are learning every day how bad it really was.

It's really past astounding what this creature was up to and his illustrious base. Thank goodness most would rather stay home with their Xbox than do something (notice any of our esteemed Trumpers here talk about being in DC on Jan 6th, the same 2Aers who've been talking Civil War since 2016?).

He’s definitely been lied to. But I do like talking BBQ lol

Not lied to, buy actively lying.
Claims to be in his 60s, but his parents were born in the 1910s, father signed up for WWII, was too old for Korea... You do the math.
He's LIVED through much of what he's fanfictioning about, so the deception is deliberate.

He's even said that to me, like about Reagan, "Kid, you weren't born yet, you're spewing Democrat lies..."
Except I WAS there, and I have never been registered to any party.