Trump inadvertently admits no mass fraud occured in double negative statement

Trump's statement doesn't mean what he thinks it does due to his usage of a double negative, which yields the opposite meaning of what he thinks he conveying.

I don't take my orders from Trump. I watch what happens and make up my own mind. I could tell back in 2016 that the left would stop at nothing to keep Trump from getting re-elected.

And if any of you on the left think we are better off with that absolute moron you guys put in the White House, you are out of your freaking minds. Before Biden went senile he was an idiot and one of the most corrupt and vile politicians we have ever had. There was nothing good that anyone could ever say about this idiot. And when I say idiot, I do not mean that he is an idiot because I disagree with him. I say he is an idiot because he is an out and out idiot. His IQ has got to be smaller than his shoe size. The only thing he has ever been good at is grifting.

And now on top of all of that he is senile. This man is destroying America and somehow all you can do is think of how awful Trump was. Trump was just a mediocre president, at best, but compared to Biden, Trump was the greatest. Trump got us off of foreign oil dependency, we were actually exporting oil. Biden shuts down pipelines, makes bow to OPEC again and then starts using our emergency reserves to try (and fails) to lower gas prices. If that is not the most idiotic and backwards thing a president could do I don't know what is. And that is just one of many idiotic things he has done.

Anyone with any semblance of historical knowledge - both Republican and Democrat - of who Trump actually was and his decades long reputation for con-artistry prior prior to the 2016 election tried to prevent him from becoming the Republican nominee, let alone the President.

I'm not a fan of Biden either - nor was I ever a fan of Hillary - and thought the Dems were foolish to advance his nomination but don't agree he's senile. The man suffers from a decades long stuttering problem which is why his speech is the way it is, not because he can't actually think clearly.

My issue with Trump is the fact that the man is a completely self serving, narcassistic, sociopathic and habital liar about virtually everything, who began promoting the claim about a stolen election months before the event even occurred in case he lost and then doubled down on election night with his "Big Lie" when results didn't favour him.

I'm further appalled by how many within the Republican party - knowing full well he legitimately lost - continued to advance his false claims for their own self serving interests, which ultimately led to the insurrection because people actually believed their lies. That to me is truly unforgiveable and every single one of those people that perpetuated Trump's lies needs to be held to account, including Trump himself.

There were just so many things wrong with the 2020 election that just on the face of it it is easy to conclude voter fraud. I've watched Biden ever since the Iran-Contra hearings. He was definitely senile before the election. There is just no way possible that he could have ever gotten more votes than any other presidential candidate in the history of this nation. He's an empty suit.

He didn't win the Democrat primaries. Voter fraud prevented Bernie Sanders from winning. He was clearly the most popular Democrat candidate running in 2020 and for that matter in 2016 also. Sanders was cheated both times. Don't get me wrong, I am not supporting Sanders. He has no problem telling you that he is a socialist. You look at his life and he's been a parasite his entire life. And once he became a politician he all of the sudden got rich enough to own 3 mansions when he was freeloading off his friends and family and living on welfare before he got into politics. He refused to work in the private sector because he was a socialist and he hates capitalism.

It has been proved that there was voter fraud and more and more proof comes in every day. The court cases are NOT conclusive evidence because the vast majority of them were closed on standing. Evidence was never presented or heard in any of those cases. The few that did go to trial Guiliani seemed like he was doing his best to completely screw everything up. And much of the proof that we have now wasn't available back then.

The facts are these, the election was stolen. The voting machines were written to throw the election and in the middle of the night all vote counting stopped so that the machines could be updated because Trump's landslide was bigger than they calculated. The machines weren't used everywhere so in those places vote counting stopped and then resumed hours later and when the resume Trump's lead magically became Biden's lead and in several precincts by the exact same number of votes. In other precincts for a while Trump had negative votes, which is impossible. At one time he had around 900 negative votes. You cannot have a negative number in an election because votes are only additive.

What the left fails to realize is just how popular Trump was, despite their 4 year long propaganda campaign waged against him in the "news" media. I saw it and I didn't even like Trump. Trump appealed to the average middle class working man and woman. Those people LOVED him.

I'm not a Republican. I left the Republican party about 10 years ago. I don't have any particular love for the Republican party because the majority of those serving in office think just like Democrats.

When Trump first announced his candidacy I thought he was a fraud. For most of his presidency I thought he was a fraud. I still don't trust the man. He was a life long Democrat. He supported Bill Clinton's "assault rifle" ban. When he first started campaigning he was promoting single payer government run healthcare. That is the last thing anyone who loves freedom would promote. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, I voted for Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party (the party I joined after I left the Republicans). I did, however, vote for Trump in 2020 because Biden is just awful. Biden's been a been a bumbling boob his entire life and he is as corrupt as they can get. He is on China's payroll.

Trump is all of those things that you said. Most politicians are. There are really only two types of people who run for office, malignant narcissistic control freaks and those who promote and defend liberty. The Democrat party does not have anyone who promotes and defends liberty, none. Not one single one of them. They are all malignant narcissistic control freaks. The Republican party has a few who promote and defend liberty but the majority of them are the first kind of people who run for office.

There are no morals in the Democrat party and they have been cheating at elections for decades. When Obama got those electronic vote (stealing) machines brought to America I read about complaints of vote switching ever since the 2012 election. It was always Republicans complaining that their votes switched right in front of them to the Democrat. This abuse is nothing new.

The plan going forward was to never let another Republican win an election. Obama didn't win re-election. No president who over saw a bad economy has ever won re-election. Hillary was planned to win in 2016 but they forgot about the electoral college. That is the real reason for the extreme hatred of Trump. The electoral college thwarted their plans. A mistake they would not make in 2020.

I agree with some of your comments but vehemently oppose others. I'm not interested in getting into a debate about the political deceptions and abject corruptions each party and their leadership have engaged in over multiple administrations. They all have, which is why I refuse to ever unquestionably support any one of them.

Never in my lifetime, however, have I ever seen the vast majority of any given party completely capitulate to the lies and dictates of one man, as the Republican party has largely done with regards to Trump's claims of a stolen election. It's truly disgusting, particularly given every GOP Senator knows it not true as too do most of the House, though admittedly there are a few - but only a few -that are acually true believers in Trump's lie.

I'm not basing my opinion solely on media coverage. I've actually read the court filings from every single case Trump and the GOP presented in court - 64/65 they lost for good reason - and the only case they actually won was shortening the curing date of ballots from 9 days to 6 days. That's what us legal types do. We read facts presented, not reply upon any media entity to tell us the truth.

I don't know what media you follow but whoever it is, they're obviously suppressing and manipulating facts to reflect a certain narrative they want to promote if you still believe the election was stolen. It wasn't.

Trump's own highly sychophantic AG - Bill Barr - had his DOJ investigate claims of mass voter fraud across multiple states post election and declared in December 2020, no evidence could be found. Chris Krebs, Director of CISA (Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency) yet another Trump appointee, proclaimed last year that Election 2020 was the most secure election in US history. Republican judges, some of which Trump appointeed himself, called BS on the claims being presented in their courts.

Uncorruptible Republican GA officials, Gabriel Sterling and Brad Raffensberger, each pressured by Trump, Meadows, et al, to find acts of fraud within their election (after two audits had already been conducted which confirmed initial tallies) - and further, to FIND 11,780 votes - one more than he needed to prevail over Biden - to declare him the winner of GA. The recording of that conversation is online, as too GOP Senators in swing states secretly recorded stating Trump lost their state because Republicans refused to vote for him but did vote downballot for other Republicans.

I haven't read any of court filings but what little I saw of the trials I was disappointed in those who were supposedly trying to prove fraud. That being the case the evidence that has come since the trails is overwhelming. They had a glass of water and what's been discovered since is an ocean.

I seriously doubt any of it will ever make it into a courtroom. Most of the judges back them just shelved the cases. They were either bought off, were threatened or had no interest. Giuliani made a mockery of the case. And when I say they were bought off, I'm serious. I have absolutely no confidence in any government official at all. There may be a few honest people in the government, most of them are just low level employees. But the people at the top are about as evil and corrupt as you can get. Any chance of the government representing the will of the people and especially representing individual liberty is completely gone.

None of those court cases matter because that's not where you are going to find proof of voter fraud. Fraud did happen. To what level I don't know but I believe Trump won in a huge landslide.

"I'm not basing my opinion solely on media coverage"

I've given on finding any truth in the media. They stopped reporting biased news when Obama signed the bill that repealed FDR's anti-propaganda bill. Once that happens the news media (including Fox) report what the left wants you to believe.

When I watched the videos of Kyle Rittenhouse is was blatantly obvious that he acted in self-defense. But nothing like that was reported in the mainstream news. Not even close. They made him out to be a white supremacist even though all three of the people he shot were white and they were not members of BLM.

The way the media tried to make Darrell Brooks into just some guy who accidentally hit a few people was obscene. Brooks, according to the police reports sped up as he got closer to the people. He was purposely swerving into people to hit them. It was not accident. His goal was to kill or injure as many people as he could and he was targeting white people.

So I've given trusting anything from the government and the news media.

When possible I try to find the source of the news rather reading some fantasy opinion piece that they want me to think is the news. I trust the weather report more than the top stories.

One again, I agree with some of your assertions while completely disagreeing with others. I don't know whether you saw or read Part 2 of the prior comment I made (which now lies directly below this comment) but it outlines just a few of many examples wherein Trump's lies have further been exposed by Republican governmental officials, Judges, etc.

The Judges weren't bought off. Their rulings were wholly appropriate for each of the cases presented to them. A number of cases presented had no legal standing, others failed on their merits, while others were argued in their entirety and judgments were made.

Rudy Giuliani, while consistently claiming fraud in the media, when the Judge asked if he was asserting fraud in Court he said no, because he knew he could be disbarred for misleading or lying to the Court. Sidney Powell, stupid woman that she is, actually presented doctored governmental documents in Court as part of her evidence, supplied sworn affidavits by previously indicted con-artists, claimed experts witnesses had qualifications they didn't possess, surreptitiously added other attorneys' names to her claims (as being co-counsel) without their consent or knowledge, produced manufactured affidavits, etc, etc.

Both Rudy and Sidney, in their recent depositions relating to the billion dollar defamation lawsuits against them, each admitted that they did not vet for veracity the information being presented to them. Rudy even admitted that he got some of information from social media sites and YouTube.
Both are currently under sanctions and each likely to be disbarred, along with a host of many other lawyers that propped up and spread Trump's lies.

If you cannot understand how Biden won 81M votes to Trump's 74M, that is easily explainable based on voting age population (VAP), voting eligible population (VEP) and total turnout. As you can see from the list below, 23M more people turned out to vote in 2020 than in 2016. In fact, it was the highest turnout in over 100 years.

VAP VEP Turnout % VAP %VEP
2000 209,787,000 194,331,436 105,594,000 50.3% 54.3%
2004 219,553,000 203,483,455 122,349,000 55.7% 60.1%
2008 229,945,000 213,313,508 131,407,000 57.1% 62.5%
2012 235,248,000 222,474,111 129,235,000 53.8% 58.0%
2016 249,422,000 230,931,921 136,669,276 54.8% 59.2%
2020 257,605,088 239,247,182 159,690,457 62.0% 66.9%

Aside from all that, you would have to ignore all the GOP Senators' statements upon reconvening post the insurrection on Jan 6th that directly blamed Trump for such but days later retreated from that position to stay in Trump's good graces.

You also have to ignore the fact that all the prime mouthpieces advancing Trump's BS claims - Giuliani, Powell, Wood, Fox News (as too many of their hosts), Newsmax, OAN and - are all now facing multiple billion dollar lawsuits for defamation against Dominion Voting Machines and Smartmatic (which the latter WILL UNDOUBTEDLY WIN) as too legal suspensions, sanctions and disbarments recommended for Guiliani, Powell & Wood.

Just last week, Powell, Wood and 7 other incredibly stupid GOP aligned lawyers, trying to push Trump's lies, were sanctioned and fined $175,000 to pay back to Detroit for having to defend themselves against the foregoings' frivilous and wholly without merit claims. As one Judge put it, these cases were never based on merit but rather, solely intended to create an ILLUSION of election fraud for public perception. They were right.