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Manufactured Outrage | SO YOU WERE TOLD TO BE MAD AT FAUCI BECAUSE THE NIH
UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP APPROVED TESTING ON DOGS? THAT'S FINE. BE MAD AT HIM. BUT ARE YOU MAD THAT
THE TESTING WAS LEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE? 
 
AND IF YOU AREN'T MAD THAT ITS LEGAL, WHY
ARE YOU MAD AT FAUCI AGAIN? | image tagged in sam elliott special kind of stupid | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
212 views 3 upvotes Made by Sleeping_dragon 3 years ago in politics
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Why are you so upset about slavery 300 years ago?? That shit was legal too.
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Legality doesn't equate with morality. Good catch there. But to stick with your analogy, people are pointing out a few cases where slaves were abused and killed and blaming someone. If you want to blame Fauci, so so, but my point is, that those aren't isolated cases and the law says its fine.

You can stew in ineffective ire, or you can make some noise about changing he law that allowed these things to happen.

So (building on your analogy) are you for passing laws to better care for slaves (animal testing remains, but more restrictions)? Or are you fully an abolitionist (no animal testing)?
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Laughing Leo Meme | WHEN A LEFTARD 
PLAYS THE 
MORALITY CARD | image tagged in memes,laughing leo | made w/ Imgflip meme maker
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Calvin Candie is an odd avatar to choose for this thread.
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How do you know when you totally pwned a Leftard? Two words surface: "Ad Hominem".
Especially when the Leftard in question makes a truly odd choice of not only defending genocidal Fauci, but defends a sociopath spending tax money on having puppy faces chewed off by insects.

Talk about tone deaf. What corner of Hades did you grow up in?

Enjoy the humiliation as Fauci atrocities continue to be exposed, we'll remind you how much of a sycophant Fauci fan boy you were for months on end.
2 ups, 3y,
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No, I say Ad Hominem when instead of addressing anything I said, you insult.

I'm not defending Fauci. The NIH under him did animal experimentation. My point is that if you are only attacking him and don't do anything to address the laws that allowed it to happen, then you don't care about the dogs. You just care about "pwning" the left.

Are you against animal experimentation? Do you want to pass laws making it illegal to experiment on dogs?
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The incident in question was illegal in the US, so Fauci saw no problem outsourcing it overseas, just as he did gain of function sending millions of dollars to Wuhan bio weaponry labs.

What is crystal clear is that you are, what could charitably described as, an enabler of Anthony Fauci and absolutely share his lack of humanity. Scumbags of a feather, flock together.
So once again... Enjoy the humiliation as Fauci atrocities continue to be exposed, we'll remind you how much of a sycophant Fauci fan boy you were for months on end.
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The Tunisia study was corrected by the group that broke all three studies and they said it was a mistake, NIH provided no funding.

Of the other two, which one was illegal? Georgia or SRI?

The gain of function - yeah, agreed there. The only question it can be proven that he knew about it. That could go either way.

I do like Fauci, but I have no emotional attachment. I can admit I was wrong. If the hand offends, cut it off.

The point of this meme isn't to defend Fauci, it's to ask people to be consistent.

There is a lot of supposedly critical research that goes in that requires animal testing. Do you just want to expose Fauci, or are you actually concerned about the other 58,000 dogs that are lab animals?

Or more simply, are you more interested in punishing the criminal or helping the victims, or both equally?
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2 ups, 3y
My issue isn't whether its right, its the selective outrage. If you are mad at Fauci because people under him approved legal testing of the same sort that happens all the time, but you don't want to pass a law preventing this sort of thing, then you are a hypocrite.

Animal testing is 'how the sausage is made' and nobody wants to know how the sausage is made, because its gross and unsettling. Blissful ignorance is preferred.

You can be outraged. If you just found out that this sort of thing happens and you want to make sure it doesn't happen again, then sign petitions and contact your representative. You don't know what you don't know. But now that you know, what are you going to do about it? If all you do is use it to score on Fauci, then I submit that it was never about the dogs.

The study with the dogs heads in mesh cages has been corrected, the NIH didn't fund that one.

The University of Georgia study tested a vaccine for a parasitic disease called lymphatic filariasis, which the CDC lists as the second leading cause of permanent and long term disability in the world. Is intentionally infecting beagles and then putting them down worth curing something like that? That is subjective. If you don't want the head of the NIH to have the ability to make that call, then you need to lobby to change the law.

The aids drugs where they cut the dogs vocal cords...that's rough. I'm not defending any of it, but there are laws and exceptions for a reason.

If the testing was somehow unnecessary and violated animal welfare laws, then someone should sue or bring charges. If it was within the law, then we need to look at the justification and ask ourselves if it is worth it. I'd love to be outraged with you, but I unfortunately was aware that animal testing happens and how it usually turns out. I don't like it, but things have to be tested.
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    SO YOU WERE TOLD TO BE MAD AT FAUCI BECAUSE THE NIH UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP APPROVED TESTING ON DOGS? THAT'S FINE. BE MAD AT HIM. BUT ARE YOU MAD THAT THE TESTING WAS LEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE? AND IF YOU AREN'T MAD THAT ITS LEGAL, WHY ARE YOU MAD AT FAUCI AGAIN?