Senate floor

here are some arguments for both off the top of my head:

VP is HOS:
The VP position means more.

Elections will be easier to tally, and just less messy.

HOS is separate:
Another position, because we have a lot of valuable and active members we're scrambling to come up with made-up positions for.

Might change some things up in the election when the HOC has a running mate.

Whatever easiest.

I'd like to hear the arguments for both sides before I cast my vote. Arguments can be made by anyone, not just Senators. Only Senators can vote however.

Like Envoy said, if it's VP, the position means more

If it were to be a separate position, I don't think it should be a running mate to the HOC. The real advantage of it being a separate position is that it could help divide the government among different parties.

I agree with that second part, HOS should not be a running mate to HOC. I'm still not really sure where I stand either way whether VP takes over or HOS is its own position.

It should be a separate HOS position. 4 elected officials isn't unreasonable and people like jobs on the stream, even if those jobs aren't (in practice) powerful.

The later.

Okay, NO, the Senate isn’t around yet. It’s for next term. You clearly have a peanut swap your brain every now and again, don’t you, lmao?

This is the third time OP has been told this too. He's either sticking his fingers in his ears or he's just a special.

It was a joke OP. Seems like the peanut is back.

You spamming?

Do you even read TOS bro?

I do, and you said that image twice.

Better?

Speaking of TOS, you can’t post images of other Imgflippers getting killed. I’m going to give you a chance to delete it yourself and avoid the comment timer, otherwise it’s going to be a 24 hour timer: https://imgflip.com/i/5p1ng6#com14642180

I actually had no idea that was a ToS violation. I said I read the terms but I didn’t fully read them.

Fine, but only this one time.

I vote for keeping HOS as a separate position.

If N.E.R.D. wins, we’ll reform Congress into “Parliament” along the lines I’ve described here:

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Key difference with the current system is that any Party that wins at least 5% of the vote gets to send a representative, and gets total control over who they send. Really makes small parties viable and takes power away from the “ruling” Party. It should lead to less friction overall since everyone will have a say. That’s for the lower chamber (which would become known as the House of Commons).

How would this affect the upper chamber (Senate)? I’ll get with Randomness to see what he has in mind but my feeling is it wouldn’t affect it at all. Senate becomes known as the House of Lords, where membership isn’t determined by elections here but rather by achievement in other streams and interest in participating in PRESIDENTS.

Under a parliamentary system, “President” would be the Prime Minister and would sit as one of the 20 MPs.

Ergo it would be fitting and analogous for the “Vice-President” to be the Head of the House of Lords.

If RandomnessCentral agrees then I think that’s the N.E.R.D. position and it’s totally compatible with this proposal, so I provisionally vote aye.*

*Again expressing no opinions as to whether Senate currently exists or whether I’m a Senator. :)

I don't really agree with the party proportional representation, but it would still be an improvement over the current RUP rubber stamp Congress. I prefer just letting anyone who's interested in participating join in, to make it more inclusive. That's definitely something Presidents needs to work on, being a more inclusive group. As far as turning all of Presidents into a fully Parliamentary system, I think you would be better off making either a third legislative branch or an entirely separate government. It just seems like a total 180 for this stream. After all, it is Imgflip Presidents, not Imgflip Parliament.