conservative math. embarrassing.

Too busy teaching creationism to teach math

THEY spell it mEth.

Your meme has proven quite effective today. Have an upvote.

thanks! i love handing out rope for people to hang themselves with :)

Would you believe that a certain user went and cried to his friends for me coming into moderate the situation you were dealing with? I tried to give him a chance to redeem himself, but apparently you can't do that... You just have to stealth mod and just discern y/n. No talking to the offenders is permitted.

ha! that's awesome! trigger accomplished!

It's worse. COVID kills something of, *rounding up,* (key point) 1% of its victims. That means that, within that five percent, the vaccine/pre-existing conditions (combined or no) kill more than four percent.

at the end of the day, vaccine skeptics are going to end up like AIDS denialists - dead.

All the cards may seem to be in your favor, but when they fall, I'd hate to be where you're standing.

5% vs 95% is pretty good odds.

covid vax has a 95% chance of killing me?

if you do not get what that meme means then i have even littler hope for humanity yet

you'll have to do a better job communicating.

I am pretty fine knowing that the 95 is, in reality, not a threat, but the 5 is.
statistically, no
realistically, yes
since, you know, this thing is almost certainly false
or falsified
as liberals famously tend to be good at doing

95% isn't a threat to the vaxxed. ask the hospitals.

liberals run corporate hospitals and insurers?

It means that the odds of dying from the virus while vaccinated are less than five percent. Because your body has been augmented by Beskar (vaccine) while a swarm/invasion force (stormtroopers/COVID) has no chance against you.

However, choosing to not to social distance/mask/vaccinate means you're going to fight storm troopers with a butter knife in your underwear while yelling at your fellow soldiers that armor and heavy blasters are fake news, that you're a Jedi... with a butterknife.

You know good and well that a butterknife could beat an invasion force of stormtroopers, i hope you aren't that uncultured

No, not the Fighting 501st, Vader's fist that carried out the attack on the Jedi Temple. I hope you aren't that uncultured.

Given how many shots you see land in the movies, the odds are pretty favorable.

"beans"

Trolling is also a violation of this stream.

Enjoy your 24h ban.

Do I need to tell you what happens next in the scene?

again, given the number of troopers who can't hit, odds are the invasion force you're taking on ain't like the 501st.

Your analogy. The majority of troopers we see in the movies are the 501st.

Just because I broke your analogy doesn't mean you have to move the goalposts.

Now listen here bud, I'm growing impatient with your spouting misinformation here. You've been proven incorrect time and time again, you've also cited links that contradict your own arguments which means you don't read anything that comes your way. You read just enough to get what you want to hear without taking time to understand it; i.e. confirmation bias.

Check that shit at the door, actually go and read some shit about what you're talking about, or gtfo this stream.

You've been warned.

So you're threatening to use mod power?
And in terms of Star Wars, the 501st certainly lost its capabilitiy pretty quickly if the majority of units are 501st.
I haven't cited a single link, only logic and emotion rolled into one.

"All right then, as a final word-
Making "misinformation" a stream violation is rather clearly just a way to silence your opposition. It's pretty obvious. Might want to fix that one, before I find somewhere to post the screenshot that I just took."
No, as the final word, I am the moderator and it is my job to moderate what is misinformation and what isn't. You have not offered any proof or evidence to support your claim. Thus, not giving it the chance to be factual information. If there is no evidence to the claim, coupled with hard evidence to contradict the substance of your claim, yours is misinformation. You're not entitled to spread bullshit here.

Discussion closed. Any further replies on the matter will be deleted as this is not a subject up for debate or opinion in this meme as it is irrelevant to the topic of the meme.

Thank you for your cooperation.

"So you're threatening to use mod power?
And in terms of Star Wars, the 501st certainly lost its capabilitiy pretty quickly if the majority of units are 501st.
I haven't cited a single link, only logic and emotion rolled into one."

So, you're not even citing links to back your claims. You're just spouting nonsense showing no work or sources for your "logic and emotion" to back such claims. Yeah, total mod threat. Violates stream terms. Discussion closed.

All right then, as a final word-
Making "misinformation" a stream violation is rather clearly just a way to silence your opposition. It's pretty obvious. Might want to fix that one, before I find somewhere to post the screenshot that I just took.

covid is killing unvaxxed conservatives and libertarians in record numbers.

Breaking news! COVID-19 is infecting people in record numbers!
Oh, wait! That would explain why it's killing us!
Because we're not afraid of it, and if we face it, people are going to die, but that is true regardless!

it's infecting unvaxxed people in record numbers.

you inspired me to not try so hard :) https://i.imgflip.com/5o2326.jpg

antivaxxing IS the great replacement of white conservatives tucker carlson's been babbling about.

we've been working on sars vax since the outbreak in 2009. digital methods today just made 19 easier. but keep taking ivermectin, formulated for conservatives who don't know it's not for viruses.

We do know that it isn't going to hurt us. What we don't know is that this vaccine isn't.

personally, i think we should stop getting right wingers to vaccinate. they are the only ones left who could vote biden out and vote trump back in. Why not let nature take it's course?

It won't. Because we're stronger than to let the sniffles get us down, for the most part. The indomitability of Americans is legendary. Nothing's changed.

why so many dead from covid then?

This circles back, just like a certain individual we both know...
The numbers seem big, until you realize that there are a crap ton of people rallying against the vaccine.
There are some dead. For someone so reliant on statistics and numbers, you sure like to ignore ones that disagree. The numbers of people you see dead on your beloved hate website are a fraction of a fraction of a decimal of the number of people not taking the vaccine.

at least you're honest. just stay out of the hospital when you get covid.

Gladly, seeing as I'm not gonna need it.

if antivaxxers want to die, good. fewer trump voters.

it's the hospital bed space they take up that's a problem to others with illnesses and surgeries that could NOT be prevented with a simple vax.

If it's taking away space from people as unintelligent and primitive as yourself, I'll gladly take it.
If Liberals want to end their bloodlines, that's fine. Screw them, better if they didn't exist. Better if their families and friends were scrubbed from existence as well. My reason? Oh, we need fewer Democrat voters.
See, it doesn't quite ring the other way around, does it?

"The indomitability of Americans is legendary" but the other nations aren't as genetically robust?

Not genetically, they are all humans. But in strength. We don't let worldwide wars get us down. We won't let a worldwide cough do it, either.

lol you should write propaganda for a troll farm.

You literally have posted dozens of memes for the same hate website
You a recruiter or something fam

you're lucky to have antibodies. the rest of the dead didn't. but today they could get the vax so they wouldn't need to risk death for "herd immunity".

Funny you assume I'm going to die.
On the day I die of COVID, I will call for Daddy SSTTUUTTAA, my Savior, to enlighten me and see my spirit towards Atheist Heaven (Nonexistence).

yes actually. i'm recruiting antivaxxers to get on that site :)

Your parents must have dropped you in order to make you stop crying or something because nobody with a properly functioning mind thinks that supporting anything like that is okay

oh come on! take the antivax challenge! better than tide pods :)

Better odds for sure.
It's a challenge I'll take any day over whatever the hell you're doing.

more fun to humiliate the living :)

i'm not assuming you're going to die, since you have antibodies from previous infection. glad you're alive! but if you DO end up dying from covid, don't call me, call "god" :)

"The rest of the dead"

how come you won't need hospital if yu get covid? already have antibodies?

Actually, yes. Sick twice. Plenty enough to develop them.

good for you then. the people on that site didn't get covid twice LOL

You're certainly sicker than anyone you've been laughing at.

humiliation saves lives. antivaxxing doesn't.

Again, Nazi allusion. You don't know that it doesn't.
Humiliating the dead is a whole 'nother level of low

dead antivaxxers ALWAYS regret not getting the vax while they are dying. no need to laugh at them. i only laugh at the living who will end up like them.

Mmmm... Seems that you don't have a respect for life in the least, considering that you are taking their deaths and saying "See, that could have been prevented by my magical panacea. Now let me go and insult people for caring about others, rather than making them into statistics."

you can't humiliate the dead silly, only the living.

You can put the dead to shame.

we do know that the vax helps more than it hurts.

But we don't. if Trump's final year of presidency was not enough time to gather statistics on a disease sweeping the world, then the months these vaccines have existed are not enough to prove that.

sars vax has been in dev since 2009 silly.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

Not the COVID vax. I didn't say the SARS vax wasn't, silly.

you have antibodies. that's not putting Fragile X to shame. antivaxxing without having first played and won one round of russian roulette IS.

I love how antibodies didnt matter in this argument until I mentioned that I developed them
I can sense somebody trying to end the argument

is the vax killing people who take it? more than a few people?

Is COVID killing more than a few people?
Statistically, no.

numbers going down cause 65% of america got the biden vax.

Mhm. Yep. Not at all because of all the individuals who were already sick.
keep in mind that Jack the Ripper and the Zodiac Killer have a better track record than COVID. And COVID has the entire world in its reach.

misgendering is a hate crime and i can take you to court.

sars IS covid silly.

Wrong, sir. That is, frankly, among the most stupid statements I have heard you utter. That's an achievement..
COVID is *A* SARS. Not SARS. SARS is a group of diseases. COVID is technically classified in the same area. The vaccine you refer to in regards to SARS is the SARS-2 vaccine. The term "SARS-2" doesn't look a lot similar to "COVID-19", does it?

same family silly. you knew what i meant.

A sinlge vaccine doesn't cover an entire family. Hence we have two different flu vaccinations.

vaccines are developed much quicker now, and safely. get off the boomer horse and buggy and get with the times please.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

Not the question. You're not going to make a perfect, life-saving vaccine that quickly.
Plus, it was a decade ago.
We didn't learn how to make vaccines overnight since then.

and furthermore, did you just misgender me?

correct. that's why 19 was so easy to develop from the previous vax.

If we need multiple years to gather statistics (We've had experimentation with math and counting since the dawn of time), why do we not need that time to develop a vaccine, if research on ANOTHER disease in the same family began a decade ago?

herd immunity running it's course with no vax would kill 50 million like 1918.

Okay? Nazis convinced the Jews that they would not be harmed if they complied. So they complied.
And they died.

masks work, vax works, social distancing works. what's fauci wrong about?

How literally none of those work
He said they all worked in the beginning
Now that a crap ton of people have been infected, the numbers are finally starting to go down
They didn't back when Fauci was your Messiah.

then stay out of the hospitals if you're an antivaxxer who gets covid. you're overloading the system and causing overworked doctors and nurses to quit because of your willful stupidity. it's people like the ones on that site who drive up healthcare costs.

If this is stupid, I'm about to put Fragile X to shame.

not at all. i assumed you had no equivalent to a weak vax already in you. my bad.

oh come on, a court appearance for misgendering me would be great propaganda for the right :)

that's cool! ima run around pranking people :)

and fauci is still right.

Okay, he wasn't right the other times, but he just has to be now.
Dozens of swings and misses, what makes you think he hits now?

silly, they didn't use a vax from 2009 they used the development leapfrogs learned from 2009 to do it even better and faster in 2020.

Faster doesn't really mean better here.
Fauci has only changed his mind about everything forty times.

2009 vax was made quickly and safely.

Ooh, you just gave me a talking point
If that is true, it has been a decade since that was developed.
If that is the case, then what makes you think it's reliable to fight a virus ten years in the future with different DNA?

huh? lessons learned FROM 2009 contributed to being ready to quickly take the genetic sequence and plug it into the digital testing and make it work in 2020. That's all that happened. I don't get yur point.

Using a vaccine from 2009 as the basis for a vaccine 12 years later is not exactly the best idea.

700,000 dead, eh, it's only 1%.

Well? It is. 700,000 is 1%, any way you slice it. If you are reliant on statistics, then stick to it. If there have been approximately 231 billion cases, 700,000 is quite a bit lower than one percent.

do you promise not to take up hospital bed space if you get too sick with covid to stay in your own home?

you must not understand math. 700k out of 42m cases in USA is closer to 2%.

how many vaxxed people are there? how many died?

Okay, 2%. Therefore, 3% of vaxxed people died of either COVID or underlying conditions. Still the majority.

3% is higher than 95%?

The majority of vaccinated have been killed by either the vax or pre-existing conditions. You know what I meant.

so what about the other 95% who are unvaxxed? what killed them? the flu?

I have agreed that underlying conditions do kill vaxxers. No need to act like that's false for anti-vaxxers.

the vaxxed population is bigger 2/3 compared to 1/3 in usa which keeps them out of hospital if they do get sick. the ones who end up in hospital are mostly unvaxxed. 95% of those deaths are unvaxxed.

Deaths do not mean COVID deaths. That has been argued since day one.

any evidence vaccines hurt more than help?

any evidence the south did not secede to maintain slavery?

the north only fought back to preserve the union, not to "end slavery".

The south did not leave to preserve slavery, although that was a bonus to the confederacy.
There's no evidence vaccines help more than hurt.

Actually per the southern casus belli:

MISSISSIPPI

"A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union.

In the momentous step which our State has taken of dissolving its connection with the government of which we so long formed a part, it is but just that we should declare the prominent reasons which have induced our course.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth..."

North Carolina seceded from the Union because the North were harboring "fugitives." Or, slave escapees.

But here's the casus belli in its entirety:
https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

yes, they sure do. so why fixate on 5% vaxxed when there's 95% unvaxxed deaths?

Because, maybe, since the vaccinated population is smaller than the unvaccinated population, unvaxxed individuals just die of underlying conditions more often. America is notoriously unhealthy.

that's like saying the civil war wasn't about slavery, it was about taxes. taxes on what? goods produced by slaves.

The civil war most certainly not fought over slavery. It was entirely about the taxes. Slavery was seen as a real issue a year or so into the war- hence, Lincoln would be the legend that he is and just legally take away their slaves.
Beyond that, the allusion oyu are using does not apply. The argument here is that vaccines not only do not help, but may hurt.

Or more accurately, the majority of those dead with the vaccine

you only develop antibodies after getting sick. nobody had this before so there is no natural immunity.

if you don't trust johns hopkins or any other respected source, you're left with right wing quacks and ivermectin.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+people+in+usa+have+gotten+the+vaccine

I'm aware with how antibodies work.
Yes, people have had this before. I'll just assume you made a mistake saying that right there.

nobody had covid 19 before the outbreak late 2019/early 2020.

He's forgetting about SARS Cov-02... That's the blueprint we've been working on and the base for which we had a head start on this vaccine.

Long enough to get the disease and develop antibodies.

95% of deaths were unvaxxed. why do you care about the other 5% who were vaxxed?

Because they shouldn't have died if the vaccine works.

then why are so many unvaxxed dying?

We're still early on. These numbers don't even begin to cover the number of at-risk individuals who should take care and stay home.

there's no social programs to pay for people's isolation at home. vaccines are much more cost effective and safe.

the vax clearly does NOT work 5% of the time. is that a big deal?

There's nothing to say that, A, these numbers are true, B, these numbers are accurate representations of anything, and C, these individuals were not simply immune to the disease prior to taking the vaccine.

5% vaxxed deaths proves you wrong that "not helping majority" thing.

t h e m a j o r i t y o f t h e p o p u l a t i o n c a n f i g h t o f f t h e d i s e a s e o n t h e i r o w n

herd immunity from natural infection recovery would kill millions to achieve. you want that?

No, fewer deaths are better. But the vaccine is a false hope.

95% unvaxxed death is false hope?

Say that I didn't care if anybody else got a vaccine that is something of an experiment. I'll just say that. I still won't get it, because I have full trust in trditional methods, as well as my immune system. It has carried me from this disease once, possibly twice. If I am to get sick again, it can do so again. Most people's bodies are just the same.

good for you.

The message is that a vaccine is largely unnecessary.

unnecessary for YOU.

Unnecessary for the majority of the population. Quite redundant, actually.

95% of covid deaths are unvaxxed. that means only 5% were vaxxed. fine by me, we don't need more conservative voters, we need less.

Ooh, I'm scared. A liberal online just said it's best if Conservatives die.
You really do have a problem, you know that?
Mocking people who died at any rate because of the way they died is just wrong. If your parents were to die of skin cancer, and I made fun of them for not wearing sunscreen, is that okay? No. No matter how a man dies, a man dies. To make fun of one for how they and/or their family passed is just wrong.

skin cancer hasn't been politicized by conservatives. the vax has.

Doesn't matter.
Actually, this would be more accurate if I were to say, um, breast cancer. They got breast cancer because they didn't wear sunscreen, and, because of that, I can shame them beyond the grave.
Rather obviously, that would be wrong of me to do. Beyond that, sunscreen doesn't stop breast cancer, so what right would I have to even make that correlation?

the vax DOES stop covid deaths.

Mmmmmm... the continuing spikes in COVID deaths disagree.

trump didn't invent the vax, he did no reesurch on it. he promoted bleach.

trump DID quickly FUND research and prizes for companies TO invent the vax.

sars vaccines aren't new by the way, they've been studied and created for about 10 years now. that's why this one was so easy to do so quickly.

So why was there such a push to make the vaccine? It was like we would all die if the scientists out there went and got some sleep.

the death rate for vaxxed IS way down. it's only 5% compared to 95% being unvaxxed.

What's best about this is that for vaccines under Trump, these statistics almost don't exist. It's almost like nobody wanted to attribute their medical messiah to their worst enemy.

what's the economic benefit to pharma of curing the common cold compared to treating it?

is the annual flu shot rushed? should they do 5 years of testing first? so it will be 5 years old each year? LOL

The annual flu shot is the same as the previous ones, with minor improvements over time. And we are both aware that the variety of flu shot to distribute is guesswork. For the first 5 years, sure it was rushed. Not anymore.

so why are so few vaxxed dying compared to unvaxxed?

They're the ones who fear the disease, and shy away from people, unless they also have the vaccine.

stats weren't around because there wasn't enough data. even today stats are months behind.

So why are the stats still not around?

stats are consistent. 95% of all covid deaths are unvaxxed. and it's only going to get better. eventually 99% of deaths will be unvaxxed. or worse, depending on who's political party loses voters.

If I may, it's 97% of all Covid related death are unvacinated.

the covid vax is an improvement on past sars vaxes.

COVID isn't just a SARS. It's in the same family as the common cold.
The common cold is not cured, nore does it have a vaccine.
Why should I believe that this one is?

the vax didn't get rolled out to many people while trump was in office. it's a production issue not a conspiracy theory. he should be proud, he took the vax after all.

Statistics still weren't around. Percentages should be consistent.

1918 pandemic killed 50 million people because there wasn't anything scientists could do. unlike today.

I'm going to trust that such a rushed vaccine, at any rate, is not as safe as it is said to be.

the 5% death rate for vaccinated people is NOT spiking. what's spiking is the cases which translates into higher hospitalizations and deaths - thanks to antivaxxers.

As more vaccines roll out, the overall death rate should go down, assuming that vaccines are functional. Funny. The death rate isn't going down. Not by any noticeable margin, at least.

stats are around. you're just choosing not to look. or you prefer right wing or libertarian quack stats.

Statistics are skewed on both ends. Liberals are overly lenient on saying that deaths were caused by the disease. Conservatives are overly reliant on saying the numbers have been inflated. both statements are true because of each other, but likely not to the extent that they have been depicted.

the other reason for spiking cases is more indoor activity, relaxed lock downs, fewer masks and 30% of the country not yet vaxxed because they think it's dangerous or "not sure" or "waiting for more evidence" to take it.

"They're the ones who fear the disease, and shy away from people, unless they also have the vaccine."

So, they're doing what they're supposed to in an attempt to stop the virus from spreading further, trying to get us out of lockdown.... While the others who aren't afraid, are mad that the country keeps going on lockdown and can't guess why...

Hmmm. Interesting.

Fear is never the way. If I'm capable of going out there, and I tested negative so I know i don't have it, then I'm going out there.

"COVID isn't just a SARS. It's in the same family as the common cold.
The common cold is not cured, nore does it have a vaccine.
Why should I believe that this one is?"

Instead of just outright laughing at this inane babble. I'll let you put the proof to the pudding.

In what way, other than being a respiratory virus, is this virus in the same family as the common cold?

The common cold is literally a coronavirus-

Actually, there is a cure for the cold, Microphages.

yes, 95% unvaxxed.

But more and more people keep getting vaxxed... so why does it keep spiking?

because the stats have proven you wrong.

No, because if science can;t cure the common cold, I'm not going to trust that this miracle vaccine is legitimate.

"Fear is never the way. If I'm capable of going out there, and I tested negative so I know i don't have it, then I'm going out there."

Same logic:
"Fear is never the way. If I can go into shark waters while bleeding, and they already ate, I won't get bitten. Because all the sharks already ate."

In both instances, you're playing a numbers game. When you gamble, you eventually lose.

Well, of course, in your example I am not willing to do so. I'm a Conservative, not suicidal.
I'm willing to take this gamble, though. If I lose, i'll fight to my last, just as I have before.

Wrong. Look up photos of Coronavirus and Rhinovirus (the cold). Very different species of cold that have very different symptoms, that behave in very different manners. Get an education, Jesus Christ.

"Very different species of cold"

Given what you believe, I'm not surprised this is what you heard.

Third party information which is anecdotal information and you don't even know the name of the test.

"Do you have an agitated respiratory system?"
"Yes it's the co-."
"Coronavirus."

Pretty vague test. Gotta know the test to know what you're talking about. Otherwise, you're saying "I know a guy who knows a guy." And no one here will ever, ever take you seriously.

"so question, then
why does the cold come up as COVID positive on COVID tests?"

Not sure, haven't heard of this happening. First I've heard of it.
Doesn't change the fact that the CoronaVIRUS and the rhinoVIRUS are two entirely separate species of virus.

You're essentially looking at mammals and saying: "A horse is the same as a cow, they're both mammals, and they both behave like herd animals."

Seriously

It's anecdotal evidence, but no, a cold does not give you a positive Covid test. My son had a cold, and we had to get tested. Negative for Covid because it wan't Covid. GuyForSomeReason is just quoting "alternative facts".

If you tested the DNA of a horse, it wouldn't ring up as a cow. It would ring up as a horse.

"And why do horses and cows both smell like shit on the smell test?"

"And yet, the cold rings up as Covid."

On what test?

Not certain on which testing systems are used, however I know that the hospitals in my area use this particular system. Word spread pretty fast about it.

I meant to write virus, typo on my part. Look it up.

so question, then
why does the cold come up as COVID positive on COVID tests?

"If you tested the DNA of a horse, it wouldn't ring up as a cow. It would ring up as a horse."

If you tested DNA of Coronavirus, it wouldn't ring up as the cold. It would ring up as the coronavirus.

And yet, the cold rings up as Covid.

Your white knighting is such a bore...
https://twitter.com/i/events/1266066730822107137?lang=en

Sorry that my respect for human life is a bore.

Respect for human life isn't a bore, how insincere you are in it is a bore.