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Sources: NBA players won't be required to get COVID-19 vaccination

So the NBA is pro-covid?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32208394/sources-nba-players-required-get-covid-19-vaccination

So, Berry. You need to read the articles, not just the headlines.

According to your link:

Currently, the NBA does require a vaccine but it is in negotiations with the NBPA about that and to put into place other protocols like having lockers far from vaccinated teammates and having to eat, fly and ride buses in different sections for those who can provide medical documentation about why they are unable to be vaccinated. Currently, 85% of the players are vaccinated.

So..., like I said, you need to read. Then understand what they wrote.

I did read the article, did you? The Players Associate refuses to budge (non-starter) on vaccines. The Players Association speaks for the players.

Directly from the aforementioned article:

The NBA and NBPA continue to negotiate aspects of COVID-related protocols and procedures for the upcoming 2021-22 campaign, but the NBPA has refused to budge on its demand that players not be required to take the vaccine, sources say, and any proposal that mandates vaccination remains a "non-starter."

Berry, you read the headline and thought, "gotcha!!!" but you didn't.

You were wrong.

You can try to spin it to "ooh, I meant the NBAPA!!"

But you didn't. We all know you didn't.

LOL...you didn't even read my initial comment properly. I wrote:
"Sources: NBA players won't be required to get COVID-19 vaccination".
And as it is written in the article, players won't be required to be vaccinated. No spin.

Spin. From that link, the current NBA policy is that they be vaccinated. The NBA and the NBAPA are currently in negotiations over that point.

"non-starter" means no way. Refusing to admit you're incorrect is a bad look for you.

I demand to be allowed onto the anti-anti-COVID restrictions train!!!!!! Gimmegimmegimmegimme a seat!!!!

Sure, despite lockdowns failing to stop the spread of covid and only succeeding in bringing nearly 15% unemployment and studies from the CDC itself saying masks don’t work.

Zach, for future posts, it's important that you provide the link this screenshot came from so others can go and read the entire article if they want.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article#tnF2

I don't think you really read this article. I think you were told about it, and how "it proves facemasks don't work!!!!"

You need to read what they actually wrote instead of seeing what you want it to be.

If you had read it in an objective way, you'd have noticed things like this " Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group."

So, small data sample and poor adherence to wearing a facemask. That's really important and doesn't look good for your claim. But let's keep going.

This study is talking about loose-fitted surgical masks and not properly fitted and correctly worn face masks or N95 masks. If you had been reading critically, you would have seen sentences like this:

"We did not consider the use of respirators in the community. Respirators are tight-fitting masks that can protect the wearer from fine particles (37) and should provide better protection against influenza virus exposures when properly worn because of higher filtration efficiency. "

And then further on, it talks about how properly fitted facemasks for use of non-healthcare workers is essential to reduce the spread of airborne water droplets. It also links to a specific article about using facemasks with SARS respiratory diseases. This one:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article#tnF2

So, what you think it says isn't the case. It DOESN'T SAY that facemasks don't work. It DOES say that loose-fitting and improperly worn facemasks do not help reduce the spread. It also says that a properly fitted facemask, worn correctly, will reduce the spread of respiratory diseases.

Which the CDC has been saying for some time now.

I dunno about you, but I've not seen a single person wearing a legit respirator in my community despite it having a LOT of Democrats.

The buff I wear, or do if required now, is honestly more effective than most masks, haha.

Yeah. Most people are half-assing it. That link and the others even go on to say that masks are 1 part of the strategy which includes proper hygiene and distancing.

When I see people with the paper surgical masks I'm all, "really? We're 18 months into this thing, and you still haven't found a proper mask and learned how to wear it? Get your shit together."

I mean, they all contain the big droplets that cause most of our problems. If you're doing that, I'm more than happy.

Personally I would trade masks for a way to make everyone wash their hands and not touch their face before doing so, haha.

I stopped posting links after a while because the response was always “I’m not reading that.” But here you go:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

The gist of what you’re saying is that it’s true surgical and loose fitting or those “breathable” masks don’t actually provide protection but tight fitting N95 type masks do. That’s something that can be backed up, but Democrats aren’t enforcing good masks, just masks in general which includes the useless ones.

I live in a majority Democrat area, and I went to even more Democratic places like Portland last year. Indoors I wore a surgical mask and nobody told me anything even though it’s well known that they don’t work for their supposed purpose. In fact, in every business they had boxes giving out free masks that they know don’t work. A friend of mine had a more high end mask with filters on it and they made him take it off and swap it for a surgical mask which doesn’t work. So it doesn’t seem to be leftists’ plan to enforce anything effective, just to add the inconvenience of ineffective mask wearing.

Fun fact, the Covid 19 virus itself is 500x smaller than the gaps in cotton material, so even a tight fitting cotton mask is worthless. It’s like putting up a chain link fence to try and keep mosquitoes out.

I’m curious, how many people actually are wearing a good mask and what data do you have to back it up?

Fun fact 1: the spit that carries the virus isn't smaller than the gaps in the material.
Fun fact 2: that's why it's recommended to have a 3 layer mask. Makes it even harder.

You want the democrats to "enforce good masks" when you're already refusing to wear a crap one?

Aren't you a part of the "personal responsibility" crowd? Shouldn't you be demanding that everyone be wearing a proper mask?

Shouldn't you all be making that demand and leading by example? Shouldn't you all be "take the responsibility to get the vaccine"?

But instead, you're doing the opposite. You refuse to wear masks, even crap ones. You refuse to get the vaccine. You deny any sort of data about how serious this is.

Instead, you're here saying "well, why aren't the democrats doing more?"

WHY AREN'T YOU DOING MORE?

Fun fact: I can see large gaps on the sides of the mask, so unless it’s air tight around your face, you’re fooling yourself.
Fun fact 2: When putting it to the test, a 3 layer mask makes it quite hard to breathe, to the point where blood oxygen concentration starts to reach dangerous low levels.

I don’t want that, I’m simply calling out hypocrisy.

Since there’s a shortage of the product and mask wearing is one of the lesser effective measures anyway, no. I’d much rather people be vaccinated.

Yes, and I did get vaccinated.

I wear a mask whenever I go to a super liberal are just because I don’t feel like getting in an argument. And I find it hilarious that you instantly assume I’m not vaccinated. Wanna see my vaccine passport? 😂

Zach - I did read the article, did you? The Players Associate refuses to budge (non-starter) on vaccines.

Directly from the aforementioned article:

The NBA and NBPA continue to negotiate aspects of COVID-related protocols and procedures for the upcoming 2021-22 campaign, but the NBPA has refused to budge on its demand that players not be required to take the vaccine, sources say, and any proposal that mandates vaccination remains a "non-starter."

Did you mean to send this to whistlelock?

Yes Zach, I did. My appologies.